Trump, September 2017: Walmart Knockoff Hats and Other Indignities

well, DACA was an executive order.

and here comes the speaker:

House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said Friday he doesn't think President Trump should cancel the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.

"I actually don't think he should do that, and I believe that this is something Congress has to fix," Ryan told WCLO Janesville.

Ryan added that he doesn't believe President Obama had the legal authority to institute DACA, but it's up to Congress to fix the situation.

"President Obama did not have the legislative authority to do what he did," said Ryan. "You can't, as an executive, write law out of thin air."

These numbers... devastating. And, in case I didn't mention it, ts a Fox News poll. pic.twitter.com/uFKDZimvjA

— Charlie Sykes (@SykesCharlie) September 1, 2017

That Charles Pierce piece yesterday about the Mueller investigation--the one that starts "It's on"--is that as encouraging as it sounds? He doesn't seem like someone to breathlessly project when there's nothing there.

I hope I hope I hope I hope he was watching when that came on. xp

"Congress must govern with a president who has no experience of public office, is often poorly informed and can be impulsive in his speech and conduct.

We must respect his authority and constitutional responsibilities. We must, where we can, cooperate with him. But we are not his subordinates. We don’t answer to him. We answer to the American people...."

impossible to "cooperate" with, utterly incapable of discharging the duties of the position he was elected to. the facts will wait for you to be willing to acknowledge them, sen. mccain.

How could anyone possibly apply gradations to "knowledgeable," "honest," "steady," "compassionate," and "moral"?

lies to my enemies but not to me e.g.

That Charles Pierce piece yesterday about the Mueller investigation--the one that starts "It's on"--is that as encouraging as it sounds? He doesn't seem like someone to breathlessly project when there's nothing there.

It's reasonable tea leaf reading at this point, yes.

WASHINGTON — The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, has obtained a letter that President Trump and a top political aide drafted in the days before Mr. Trump fired the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, which explains the president’s rationale for why he planned to dismiss the director.

The May letter had been met with opposition from Donald F. McGahn II, the White House counsel, who believed that some of its contents were problematic, according to interviews with a dozen administration officials and others briefed on the matter.

can someone help me understand what is going on with this Antifa thing? is this a real group or just yet another dumb attempt by the right-wing to deflect attention away from the terrible people on their side?

https://www.vice.com/en_nz/article/qvvxyd/a-historian-of-antifa-explains-americas-punchiest-leftist-movement

Deflection. They're both bad! Both sides do it! If they are good people why do they wear black?! WHY!?!?!?!

I thought this was good, h/t kingfish for posting:

https://psmag.com/social-justice/understanding-antifa

Man, I can only imagine the damage that will come of a letter drafted by Miller and Trump with no oversight.

re: "Its On"

All the leaks indicate Mueller is hard charging at 2 things: the obstruction angle and trying to destroy Manafort

Perhaps money laundering, too. Or money/Manafort in an effort to get to Trump.

i know i've been spoiled by months of document leaks because i want to read the miller/trump letter NOW, and i'm disappointed that it'll have to wait until...whatever happens months/years from now with mueller

How could anyone possibly apply gradations to "knowledgeable," "honest," "steady," "compassionate," and "moral"?

I wasn't clear enough here--what I meant was, as applied to Trump. Who could sort them out? "I think he's a little more honest than he is steady, but a little more steady than compassionate." None of the terms apply.

Days/minutes/seconds.

I mean the way to think about all this is this -- the appointment of Mueller and the creation of his team was not, in and of itself, the key step, though it was necessary. The key step is the increasing coordination and, to a degree, centralization we're now seeing happen across a wide variety of investigations. The consequences of Trump's impulsive mid-May move keep playing out as a result; Mueller didn't have to start from scratch, he has a wide range of professional connections and resources to draw upon and, in a series of sublime gifts from the gods, Trump himself keeps telegraphing concerns or doing things that add to the impression that at the very least he really does have something to hide, no matter what the actual reasons are. That latter fact has to some degree now tamped down, likely due to a combination of Kelly's cleanup and Trump's current legal folks avoiding Kasowitz's clownishness and sticking to various 'no-comment' statements or pat phrases about working with Mueller's team well on a professional level, but the damage is done; combined with Trump's obvious unpopularity, and little wonder it's all chugging along like this.

Having his legal team not being run by a drunk idiot like Kasowitz is also helpful

Minor details.

It's occurring to me with increasing frequency that, in the course of a life filled to overflowing with acts of stupidity, running for president might wind up being the stupidest thing Trump ever did. Instead of (relatively speaking) continuing to fly under the radar as a crooked turd of a private citizen, he just painted a big ol' target on himself. Which he thankfully feels the need to touch up on a daily basis.

Yeah I was thinking the same last night.

THREAD: What does the news that Mueller has a draft of a Trump letter explaining why he wanted to fire Comey mean for the obstruction case?

— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) September 1, 2017

61 percent disapproval on Gallup, new low

Time for Trump to repost his smug golf clap photo.

(Again, it must be said, one of his most profoundly pathetic moments was celebrating a 50% approval rating in a poll that's strongly skewed in his favor.)

Well he's -14% net on that one now lol

Trump caves on the wall...again.

The White House has signaled to congressional Republicans that it will not shut down the government in October if money isn’t appropriated to build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, potentially clearing a path for lawmakers to reach a short-term budget deal.

Congress has only appropriated money to fund government operations through the end of September, and President Trump has threatened to shut down the government if lawmakers don’t include $1.6 billion in new funding so that 74 new miles of wall and secondary fencing can be added to the border.

“Build that wall,” Trump said at the Aug. 22 rally in Phoenix. “Now the obstructionist Democrats would like us not to do it. But believe me, if we have to close down our government, we're building that wall.”

But two days later, White House officials quietly notified Congress that the $1.6 billion would not need to be in a “continuing resolution” that was meant to fund government operations from October until sometime in early December, a senior GOP congressional aide said.

hmm, i figured he'd cave on it a little closer to the budget negotiations, but fine. that means that trump can direct his idiot legion's rage toward congressional republicans by blaming them for not allocating money for his precious wall

XP Now if only a wall would cave in on...

best case scenario for 9/11/17 = trump pulls a hillary but actually dies

KInd of dumbfounded that he'd still be talking about a wall after Houston. Almost as much as turning down the offer of Mexican help.
But there you go it's not like you can have any expectations of cognition from the guy.

Breaking the potential candidates into formal tiers at this point would be silly. But here are groupings that emerged with our conversations with veterans of past Democratic presidential campaigns, as well as younger operatives likely to be involved in the 2020 campaign:

Watched most closely: Sen. Elizabeth Warren (Mass.), Sen. Bernie Sanders (Vt.), Sen. Cory Booker (N.J.), Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (N.Y.), Sen. Kamala Harris (Calif.), New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo.

The classics: Joe Biden, John Kerry, Al Gore, former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley.

Outsiders: New Orleans Mayor Mitch Landrieu, Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, Washington Gov. Jay Inslee, Colorado Gov. Hickenlooper

Has begun seeking staff: Montana Gov. Steve Bullock, Sen. Chris Murphy (Conn.), Rep. Tim Ryan (Ohio).

Many in Obamaworld like: former Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, Rep. Seth Moulton (Mass.), former Missouri SecState Jason Kander.

Many in Clintonworld like: Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe, former Ag Secretary and Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack, former HUD Secretary Julian Castro.

Possible if wins reelection: Sen. Sherrod Brown (Ohio).

Wants to be mentioned: Sen. Amy Klobuchar (Minn.).

Wild cards: Sen. Al Franken (Minn.), Rhode Island Gov. Gina Raimondo, New York Mayor Bill de Blasio, Rep. John Delaney (Md.).

Non-politicians: Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg, Mark Cuban, The Rock, Starbucks Executive Chairman Howard Schultz, Disney CEO Bob Iger, Oprah, George Clooney.

Someone Trump would have no idea what to do with, and who'd win women with authenticity and Southern charm: Sally Yates, the acting attorney general fired by Trump.

https://www.axios.com/axios-am-2480203706.html

president-elect zuckerberg conspicuously absent

he's busy in tulsa, at a laundrette, learning about how people live now

sad no one's mentioning Pete Buttigieg

Draft Tammy Duckworth

When Poppy Bush said every single day during his campaign "Read my lips; no new taxes", he was excoriated mercilessly by his supporters when he later signed a bill that included new taxes. It should be said as often as possible that Trump promised multiple times a day that Mexico would pay for the wall, so if Congress doesn't pay for it, that is only because they know Mexico must do it, so why waste US taxpayer dollars on it?

because the concept of hypocrisy died in 2016

The difference is that Poppy never had a base of support -- he was perpetually mistrusted.

same reason Obama got slammed for "you can keep your doctor"? Trump's lies and scandals at this point are like this -

http://www.tgaw.com/images/SpeakEasy/ThreeStooges.JPG

Has Trump had one of these "wait and see ... " moments yet where in the end he made the better decision rather than the most disruptive and upsetting one?

Huh, TN's AG pulled out of its "DREAMERS" suit. Maybe others will follow and nullify this bullshit.

I am starting to see reports from the misinformed press and the fake news on how I am in violation of breaking campaign law.

#1 I have still not officially announced my candidacy.

#2 See #1 and go fuck yourselves.

Everyone else, Have a great Labor Day (I will be spending mine WORKING in one of the greatest cities in America - Grand Rapids, Michigan!!)

Rock on.
Kid Rock

@ frogbs - antifa is a real thing but probably comprise idk two hundred people in the united states, rounding up. the RW infosphere interpretation is that they are a massive armed front basically interchangeable with black-bloc anarchists and the dangerous terrorist cell known as black lives matter. from what I can tell on comments threads and batshit cartoons they are also communists. must be tough for them juggling all these ideologies but hey.

also, it seems, all liberals of whatever stripes spend a lot of time actively agreeing with all these groups and movements and supporting everything they do. which is prob the most absurd thing to me, as if more than .001% of the US population had ever heard the word "antifa" before last month. conservative media is just so hungry for a "oh yeah well why won't LIBERALS condemn ANTIFA, see trump was right to talk about BOTH SIDES" etc.

the RW infosphere interpretation is that they are a massive armed front basically interchangeable with black-bloc anarchists and the dangerous terrorist cell known as black lives matter.

don't forget they're also secretly funded by george soros.

yeah but Andrew Sullivan cares that they're throwing smoke bombs and shit

yeah it's been strange. I'm used to the right-wing deflecting and "oh why won't you talk about the REAL story" (Benghazi) every time a Trump controversy comes up but this is the first time I've seen the left go along with it, "ahh yeah these *squints* Anteefa are also very bad".

I'll honestly settle for a massive stroke that leaves him incapable of speaking or using his hands. Largely because I can't imagine anyone feeling compelled to care for him in that state, so someone will maybe just toss him in a dumpster or something.

Could a stroke also cause you to think everyone around you is cursing you in Spanish? I'd like that.

also -- ayn rand? russian. the #1 donors to the GOP? their daddy made his fortune building stalin's oil refineries. are there any bigger influences on xontemporary "conservatism" than ayn rand and charles / david koch? i'm not anti-russian by any stretch, but boy did republicans pretend to be until like last year

xpost

For serious, larry/carpet_kaiser/whatever usernames you're swapping between: keep your 'GFY' bullshit to yourself or I'll flag every one of your posts until you're banned.

So someone zings me, and I can't zing back? That doesn't seem fair.

It's like you want the TRUMP card here! hhuhuhuhuh

uh huh huh he said 'rump' uh huh huh uh huh huh

Voting for "u bum" for October thread title btw; it feels gently eloquent

how is carpet kaiser not banned yet? take the crazy pills mindblower schtick to some comments thread someplace, man

your question answers itself

You dudes said "crazy pills" about all the other stuff I said, which ended up coming true. I don't blame you guys for not having the stomach for this stuff, so I will refrain.

permalinks or it didn't happen

Ur butt is a permalink uh huh hih

who's gonna start the new one

here's a first - this dude called Twitter "biased" yesterday when someone was citing what he tweeted as proof dude is an asshole

i can't even anymore

Sorry Joanie the dragon goo fart was too gross for me

Trump, October 2017: Apologize for untruth, u bum

Ugh, Puzder on MSNBC carrying water for Trump's "tax reform" ideas. He keeps saying "we need to stop parsing this out in individual pieces and look at what it'll do for the whole economy, for everyone" hahaha yeah those keys sure are jingling in your other hand man let me keep staring at those.

The estate tax "is a double tax! It taxes money you've already made!"

Heyyyy fuck you, bud, how about that.

There's an October thread now, heads up

Fuck I thought I was posting in that. Someone should lock this and also i should pay more attention.