Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

not calling her life solitude, just saying she can't pursue true solitude

sorry if badly worded

and also i basically agree with what you said as well, that it reverberated through Carrie

Laura is stronger than Cooper though. The stubborn, insistent intrusion of fwwm into the return allows me to take comfort in that film's ending, which seems to stand outside of time (at least, it doesn't fit into the timeline of dale's visits to the red room in original series + tptr). Again, the whole end of this feels like a repetition of "don't take the ring", which was ultimately an insignificant failed intervention that Laura shrugged off as she dealt with her trauma her way. I think dale's more gravely trapped than she is by the end, precisely because her pain and sorrow can't be contained or undone.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHEVGFae09s

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From Reddit. The label on Janey-E's trousers says 'Paige'.

i cannot stop thinking about this show. nothing of value to add, just wanted to say that.

With you there :) Thought I'd see what the stars of TP thought of the finale, but not sure that's a good idea. Fenn, for instance:

Amen https://t.co/GOGfkAsSpk

— sherilynfenn (@sherilynfenn1) September 8, 2017

(never thought of her to be so into christ as she is)

yeah she's been like that for a while. and she's been supportive of the show as a whole and is pushing for a season 4; she an Lynch are friends, i believe. She certainly didn't go off her rocker like Julee Cruise did on FB for a day (she seems to be spending her time now backpedaling that, not very well because I don't think she understands how FB works).

I guess one side effect of keeping the story secret from everybody including the cast is that you have to deal with their reactions/disappointment/etc. Nobody knew what they were actually signing on for, and of course who knows how many scenes were filmed but not included. It is a heck of a lot to take on faith for an actor. I mean, nothing's ever guaranteed and all sorts of things happen in the editing room, but if you have a whole script at least have a general sense of what to expect.

This is true and understandable, but it may be advisable for the cast to maybe sit with it for a little while before making a public statement about their disappointment. Just sayin'.

That's not really fenn's way

This is true and understandable, but it may be advisable for the cast to maybe sit with it for a little while before making a public statement about their disappointment. Just sayin'.

Doh pocket post

There was an interview with fenn a week or so ago where she was enthusing about the material she'd been given, talked about doing the dance & said she couldn't talk about the finale in a way that intimated that she thought she would be in it (she also said she hadn't been watching, though). Of course we all want to believe scenes were filmed & cut because of the possibility we might see them one day! Anyway yeah she & lynch are I believe pretty close friends despite her complaining about mistakes made with the character to anyone who'll listen for the last 27 years, I doubt that'll change due to sherilyn being sherilyn on twitter

Dale wins again, just like in Vegas with the Mitchum bros, yep, literally no difference

hah did i say this? it seems like you are in a one sided argument

im just gonna dip out of this thread again. wins you have this weird bullying thing going on.

im out peace

xpost It's likely she's also still pissed about being paid scale.

I wonder who all the other teapots in the Fireman's house are/were

🙄

I gotta say, I understand being upset about unequal pay but also scale is still pretty fucking good. Actors are vastly overpaid.

Battery/capacitor things != Jeffries-like teapots imo

tbf being paid scale when you've had a reasonably active career to appear in a few scenes that most viewers will dismiss must be maddening. The prestige of this project will redound to Lynch and a few of the principles and hopefully (deservedly) Dana Ashbrook and not many others I assume, since it's such a niche thing. Amy Shiels will probably get work out of it. I don't think there's anything wrong with Fenn's response.

xp to Simon that may be true but it must be hard to reckon with that far into a career

also, you know, actors

yeah I don't think her response is unfair or unsurprising

Battery/capacitor things != Jeffries-like teapots imo

could be, idk I haven't rewatched and only noticed it briefly

I wonder if she'd be reacting differently if it weren't for a sizeable number of viewers vocally complaining about Audrey in particular

The stereotypical twin peaks fan is really fucking annoying

Not like ~us~ of course

Something something neutral milk hotel

hahaha

We're Audrey mega fans deeply disappointed in the wake of FWWM? I guess a lot of TP mega fans were deeply disappointed so it's hard to sort out, but you'd think they'd learn to cope by now!

Donna mega fans def were! There were two of them in the row in front of me when FWWM came out

Good comparison in that case because in both instances it was a strong use of the character, maybe the best, but people have a very fixed idea of how it ought to be portrayed

by the same actress?

I'm still haunted by seeing FWWM in a theater back in early April, followed by this kid who was probably in college asking his friend after the movie: "So I understand <points A, B, C> but would these other things make sense if I'd seen the tv show?"

I was really impressed how much of the plot he got and had guessed things about the show

in one of the instances, yes xp

I would totally have watched more of Audrey, but if you stitch together her scenes over those episodes you'd have a spooky standalone nightmare. I think her scenes are key to the whole thing, so it's not like she's not an important part.

otm!

The only unanswered question about the return that bothers me is how come we have three soundtrack albums commercially available and none of them have the conga line tune

That's devastating news.

I think there are only 2? you absolutely don't need the 'various artists' song soundtrack because it's pretty useless. giving the 'score' soundtrack a listen it's nice to hear badalamenti's (admittedly not enough) contributions more clearly though, some lovely pieces here.

there's also the comp of the ambient/industrial texture stuff

What ever happened to Lara Flynn Boyle? iirc there was no discussion in this thread or the other one regarding her absence in The Return. obviously she didn't participate in FWWM and publicly called it sexist, so maybe that bridge was burned in the early 90s. But frankly I'm surprised there aren't more people upset that Donna wasn't in The Return and was mentioned maybe once.

As you said, I think her involvement ended with not wanting to be in FWWM. A re-cast for The Return would've been a bad idea imo, so I'm fine with it.

they could have just used Moira Kelly but the last thing the Return needed was more characters, even returning ones.

She wasn't mentioned at all until the penultimate episode, when they repeat the fwwm scene in which her name happens to come up. The character's absence from the return is def odd, considering

gotcha. i figured as much. i didn't miss her much, certainly not like Audrey. frankly surprised Sherilyn would tweet that, she's a working actor & that kind of thing is just never a good idea, right? but her & Lynch are still friends I guess. obviously suggests that more Audrey scenes were shot, stuff that takes place after she "wakes up" wherever she is at the end of 16.

xxp

LFB has had some rather poor plastic surgery results in recent years and I'm not sure that she's acting at all presently? There was a leaked photo two years ago of her and miguel ferrer which made lots of people think she was going to show up but it must have just been them talking somewhere.

that's small potatoes compared to the stuff fenn was tweeting BEFORE she worked out her stuff with Lynch and was put back into the Return.

Donna escaped. I think her absence is kind of a hopeful sign! Gersten, not so much.

Mark Frost has penned a second Twin Peaks book called “Twin Peaks: The Final Dossier,” which will be released by Flatiron Publishing on October 31, 2017. Amazon has already made it available for pre-order as a 176-page hardcover and an audiobook.

The crucial sequel to the New York Times bestselling The Secret History of Twin Peaks, this novel bridges the two series, and takes you deeper into the mysteries raised by the new series.

The return of Twin Peaks this May is one of the most anticipated events in the history of television. The subject of endless speculation, shrouded in mystery, fans will come flocking to see Mark Frost and David Lynch’s inimitable vision once again grace the screen. Featuring all the characters we know and love from the first series, as well as a list of high-powered actors in new roles, the show will be endlessly debated, discussed, and dissected. While The Secret History of Twin Peaks served to expand the mysteries of the town and place the unexplained phenomena that unfolded there into a vastly layered, wide-ranging history, Twin Peaks: The Final Dossier tells us what happened to key characters in the twenty-five years in between the events of the first series and the second, offering details and insights fans will be clamoring for. The novel also adds context and commentary to the strange and cosmic happenings of the new series.

For fans around the world begging for more, Mark Frost’s final take laid out in this novel will be required reading.

Awful promo-blurb about Frosts new book. Is anyone on here really anticipating this? I'm really coming to terms with how The Return ended, and I for one really don't need a new book to puzzle over/ Mostly though because I believe TP is a video tale/dream/nightmare. Because it Lynch's creation. I don't want to mull over pages of clues or stuff to fill in gaps in the story. If it was that important, they would've filmed it and put in the Return.

I'm just curious if there are people here who pre-ordered this and are already anticipating it. I have difficulty imagining that: TP has always been about Lynch' unique way of showing things. On film, on the screen.

well i preordered it last night along with the FWWM Criterion blu-ray, so... i hope it's good

speaking of Lara Flynn Boyle, after watching S1 & S2 of Twin Peaks in July, I looked up her filmography, because I was sure that she was in something much more popular/longer-lasting in the mid-90s. like 90210 or something, plus movies. and... she had some longish TV gigs, some movies, but not much else notable. Didn't know about her getting work done.