Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

yeah I don't think her response is unfair or unsurprising

Battery/capacitor things != Jeffries-like teapots imo

could be, idk I haven't rewatched and only noticed it briefly

I wonder if she'd be reacting differently if it weren't for a sizeable number of viewers vocally complaining about Audrey in particular

The stereotypical twin peaks fan is really fucking annoying

Not like ~us~ of course

Something something neutral milk hotel

hahaha

We're Audrey mega fans deeply disappointed in the wake of FWWM? I guess a lot of TP mega fans were deeply disappointed so it's hard to sort out, but you'd think they'd learn to cope by now!

Donna mega fans def were! There were two of them in the row in front of me when FWWM came out

Good comparison in that case because in both instances it was a strong use of the character, maybe the best, but people have a very fixed idea of how it ought to be portrayed

by the same actress?

I'm still haunted by seeing FWWM in a theater back in early April, followed by this kid who was probably in college asking his friend after the movie: "So I understand <points A, B, C> but would these other things make sense if I'd seen the tv show?"

I was really impressed how much of the plot he got and had guessed things about the show

in one of the instances, yes xp

I would totally have watched more of Audrey, but if you stitch together her scenes over those episodes you'd have a spooky standalone nightmare. I think her scenes are key to the whole thing, so it's not like she's not an important part.

otm!

The only unanswered question about the return that bothers me is how come we have three soundtrack albums commercially available and none of them have the conga line tune

That's devastating news.

I think there are only 2? you absolutely don't need the 'various artists' song soundtrack because it's pretty useless. giving the 'score' soundtrack a listen it's nice to hear badalamenti's (admittedly not enough) contributions more clearly though, some lovely pieces here.

there's also the comp of the ambient/industrial texture stuff

What ever happened to Lara Flynn Boyle? iirc there was no discussion in this thread or the other one regarding her absence in The Return. obviously she didn't participate in FWWM and publicly called it sexist, so maybe that bridge was burned in the early 90s. But frankly I'm surprised there aren't more people upset that Donna wasn't in The Return and was mentioned maybe once.

As you said, I think her involvement ended with not wanting to be in FWWM. A re-cast for The Return would've been a bad idea imo, so I'm fine with it.

they could have just used Moira Kelly but the last thing the Return needed was more characters, even returning ones.

She wasn't mentioned at all until the penultimate episode, when they repeat the fwwm scene in which her name happens to come up. The character's absence from the return is def odd, considering

gotcha. i figured as much. i didn't miss her much, certainly not like Audrey. frankly surprised Sherilyn would tweet that, she's a working actor & that kind of thing is just never a good idea, right? but her & Lynch are still friends I guess. obviously suggests that more Audrey scenes were shot, stuff that takes place after she "wakes up" wherever she is at the end of 16.

xxp

LFB has had some rather poor plastic surgery results in recent years and I'm not sure that she's acting at all presently? There was a leaked photo two years ago of her and miguel ferrer which made lots of people think she was going to show up but it must have just been them talking somewhere.

that's small potatoes compared to the stuff fenn was tweeting BEFORE she worked out her stuff with Lynch and was put back into the Return.

Donna escaped. I think her absence is kind of a hopeful sign! Gersten, not so much.

Mark Frost has penned a second Twin Peaks book called “Twin Peaks: The Final Dossier,” which will be released by Flatiron Publishing on October 31, 2017. Amazon has already made it available for pre-order as a 176-page hardcover and an audiobook.

The crucial sequel to the New York Times bestselling The Secret History of Twin Peaks, this novel bridges the two series, and takes you deeper into the mysteries raised by the new series.

The return of Twin Peaks this May is one of the most anticipated events in the history of television. The subject of endless speculation, shrouded in mystery, fans will come flocking to see Mark Frost and David Lynch’s inimitable vision once again grace the screen. Featuring all the characters we know and love from the first series, as well as a list of high-powered actors in new roles, the show will be endlessly debated, discussed, and dissected. While The Secret History of Twin Peaks served to expand the mysteries of the town and place the unexplained phenomena that unfolded there into a vastly layered, wide-ranging history, Twin Peaks: The Final Dossier tells us what happened to key characters in the twenty-five years in between the events of the first series and the second, offering details and insights fans will be clamoring for. The novel also adds context and commentary to the strange and cosmic happenings of the new series.

For fans around the world begging for more, Mark Frost’s final take laid out in this novel will be required reading.

Awful promo-blurb about Frosts new book. Is anyone on here really anticipating this? I'm really coming to terms with how The Return ended, and I for one really don't need a new book to puzzle over/ Mostly though because I believe TP is a video tale/dream/nightmare. Because it Lynch's creation. I don't want to mull over pages of clues or stuff to fill in gaps in the story. If it was that important, they would've filmed it and put in the Return.

I'm just curious if there are people here who pre-ordered this and are already anticipating it. I have difficulty imagining that: TP has always been about Lynch' unique way of showing things. On film, on the screen.

well i preordered it last night along with the FWWM Criterion blu-ray, so... i hope it's good

speaking of Lara Flynn Boyle, after watching S1 & S2 of Twin Peaks in July, I looked up her filmography, because I was sure that she was in something much more popular/longer-lasting in the mid-90s. like 90210 or something, plus movies. and... she had some longish TV gigs, some movies, but not much else notable. Didn't know about her getting work done.

i ordered it because I'm a sucker and it was cheap. I didn't like the Secret History very much though. but i'm curious to see what it says. since none of it takes place AFTER season 3 I don't think it threatens to wreck anything about the season.

STill not clear on what this third soundtrack of ambient / indistrial stuff is. There is "Music from the Limited Event Series" (the one with roadhouse bands) and "Limited Event sEries Soundtrack" which has badalamenti, dean hurley, a johnny jewel song, and a few other things on it.

I've known her name since I was a little kid, whereas many of the TP original cast sort of withered or disappeared.
xp

xpost you can do a GIS if you like for the latest pictures of LFB, I won't post them here as they're sensationalistic and not very respectful paparazzi stuff.

As I mentioned upthread, I'm anticipating The Final Dossier but I also don't have any expectation that it'll provide anything that I might've felt was missing from The Return. It'll probably be another ephemeral and relatively unimpactful dip into that world, and that's fine.

Weirdly I think if LFB wanted to be in TP and didn't have an actors' ego and let frost and lynch lean into her current physical appearance Donna would have been an interesting add.

oh whoa. Rough. this shit is depressing

Frost's contribution to twin peaks is insanely undervalued, especially as regards the return, but the first volume of his tp novel really brings home how diminished twin peaks is when you suck all the lynch out of it. Still gonna read the new one on release day obv

oh ok she was in Men in Black: II which I saw in the theater. her filmography is a wasteland after that (2002). hasn't worked in 3 years

STill not clear on what this third soundtrack of ambient / indistrial stuff is

Me neither, and this is by far the most interesting one for me. Lynch's The Air Is On Fire is one of my all-time fave records. The sound design, soundscapes, drones on here have been consistently amazing. I hope a soundtrack of those shows up.

yeah, Secret History reads more like an Xfiles book than a TP book half the time.

The third soundtrack is credited to dean Hurley only and is called anthology resource vol 1, promisingly

Oh for real? Need to check that out

Ahh that's the one on Sacred Bones right? That is an interesting one, though I'd love a collection of all the drone(-scapes)

As for the 'limited event series soundtrack' (with the badalamenti stuff); I can't say I'm going to rush out and buy it the way I did with the vinyl reissues of FWWM and the original series, but it the new tracks are nice. Too much repeated stuff though (audrey's dance, falling, laura's theme)

yeah, Secret History reads more like an Xfiles book than a TP book half the time.

― akm, Friday, September 8, 2017 6:34 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Haha, this is exactly how I felt. I actually had one of those x-files books that are supposed to be complimentary to the series when I was younger. Rubbish.

No judgement, but for me Twin Peaks just doesn't work as a cross-platform thing.

Also where the hell is the American woman remix on either of the main albums?

I think the track "Grady's groove" might be the normal-speed basis for the conga line tune btw

This is a good feature on the TP Return music on P4K, from a couple of days ago.

oh yeah, anthology resource, this is rad. this is like, 85% of the sound from the series honestly.

LFB on The Practice was a big sensation at the time.

American Woman remix is the second song on the "limited event series soundtrack" (with badalamenti..ie: the one with laura's face on the cover, not the roadhouse one)

LFB on The Practice was a big sensation at the time.

― dan selzer, Friday, September 8, 2017 2:40 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah this has to be how I remembered her, how her name was just grafted onto my brain. my mom probably watched it, that show aired when i was a little kid & like a sponge i probably soaked up her name

like, I could've sworn she was on Friends or 90210 or movies. bizarre. Bearenstain, etc.