Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

Hahaha, lynch you crafty devil

The ultimate wizard of oz tribute: making something that, when you sync it up to literally anything else, some of the cuts coincide with somebody moving their arm or blinking

Perhaps all episodes of both seasons 1, 2 and 3 are meant to be watched at once, in sync. One episode of TP goodness.

Nah. Though I applaud the theories getting wilder and wilder. People don't know where to turn with this! And that's quite alright.

if you watch episode 17 running forward and episode 18 running backward at the same time... that's where shit gets real

I think it's bad and dumb but I would prob go to a screening where they did this. Like the room 237 thing where they play the movie forward and backward overlaid into each other, that looked dope

Lol xp!

That was done by an ILXer. Who's been posting nothing but twin peaks images to facebook lately.

Haha, I'd be there in the front row, Wins, believe :)

you all have to admit that this juxtaposition is really cool

https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*eddxtUUcKUmk1I0k_NGh1Q.png

a lot of the "analysis" is eyerolling because i really doubt that the entirety of 17 and 18 were meant to be played in sync. but the way the ending sequence plays out concurrently in 17 and 18 (the stabbing of the laura palmer pic in episode 17 vs cooper and carrie visiting the palmer house in episode 18) is pretty amazing even if it is just a coincidence.

the sounds comp is on bandcamp

https://deanhurley.bandcamp.com/album/anthology-resource-vol-1

http://store.sho.com/twin-peaks-dougie-standee/detail.php?p=1457906&v=showtime_new-arrivals

god most of that merch is awful. I do like the blue rose mug though

The music of The Platters swells and then recedes, and in the intervening blacked out frame and accompanying silence, we get Lucy’s enigmatic line, “Andy! I understand cellular phones now!”

smh "Lucy's enigmatic line"

Hmm what can it mean

i'm def buying a dougie's coffee mug

Don't get the hate for that theory. Lots of compelling stuff in there. It's not bad or dumb. This is fun!

it's dumb

a lot of you subscribe to the life theory that if someone isn't 100% right than it must be 100% worthless

so much straining

xp

http://store.sho.com/imgcache/product/resized/001/456/724/catl/twin-peaks-gotta-light-t-shirt-164_1000.jpg

lol

personally i love reading through all these theories even if none of them are (or can be) The Theory. after my initial watch of inland empire i dug into a bunch of wild theories and it made rewatching it sooooo much fun

I did watch the episode 2 redroom sequence in synch with the episode 18 one this morning and that was interesting, mainly to see the differences; they are the same takes for about 55%, but it's interesting to see what is different and how that plays out.

so much straining

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yeah but so what? there's interesting & compelling stuff in most theories I've read. Speaks to the depth of the show. I mean, this is what we have left wrt Twin Peaks, im enjoying it, while acknowledging that no one will ever get it 100% right bc there is no "right."

like, the pink floyd/wizard of oz thing. no, that's not right, dark side was not composed to be synced up to wizard of oz. so the theory is wrong. but don't you enjoy that there ARE parts that sync up really well in an interesting way? aren't you glad that you know that theory exists and that it's something you can do if you want a different spin on both of them? i feel like if the dark side/wizard of oz theory came out on the internet today everyone would just be like "RONG. IT DOESN'T SYNC UP IN PLACES AND IT'S REALLY DUMB. NEXT. NEXT."

Now that I am a showtime subscriber (for how long who can say, I guess for as long as I want to rewatch these), I happened upon the last 10 minutes of S17 last night, and the notion of the scene with Sarah stabbing the photo and the very end of S18 occurred to me as taking place at the same time. There have been a few of those moments throughout the series, and this one would actually make some sense.

anyway i'm with you flappy b

yeah seriously. and a lot of the syncs mentioned in the piece are really interesting & not strained at all. and when the author doesn't have answers or explanations, at least they acknowledge it.

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that merch is fucking terrible. and to think years ago all I wanted was a twin peaks sherrif's office mug (and couldn't find one).

tbf I've generally stayed away from hot takes - I've read a couple other people have posted/forwarded to me and don't get much out of them beyond the occasional detail I may have missed but I haven't found any convincing "grand unifying theory" like there was with Mulholland Drive. Generally these takes seem like a mishmash of strung together observations and some occasional off-the-wall theorizing/far-flung hypothesizing.

Personally I'm wary of anything that strays too far from the text. Like in the link above where they start bringing in all the Parsons/Crowley/Anger sex-magick stuff - none of that is ever directly cited in the series itself imo.

I'm still stuck on not realising the Lucy thing is a punchline tbh

xp parsons is a character in frost's book

but don't you enjoy that there ARE parts that sync up really well in an interesting way?

not really, because this is literally true of ANYTHING, ergo it is not interesting. Take any two pieces of media and pair them and you'll be able to find odd synchronicities or juxtapositions. this has more to do with our own mental wiring than anything else.

parsons is a character in frost's book

did not know this! maybe I'm alone in not considering the frost books, "Laura Palmer's diary" etc. canonical (or important)

yeah, working at a video store and syncing up Air Bud movies with Worship and Sunn0))) albums cemented this for me lol xp

loool

I mean, fine. There are no bad theories. I accept that. But... I don't know... there are

haha

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but did you slow the Air Bud movies down Simon, you have to run the tapes at half-speed to *really* get the full effect

we actually did lol

lol Simon

nothing quite like when a golden retriever reaction shot syncs up with a 40bpm snare hit

personally i love reading through all these theories even if none of them are (or can be) The Theory. after my initial watch of inland empire i dug into a bunch of wild theories and it made rewatching it sooooo much fun

― Karl Malone, Friday, September 8, 2017 8:43 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

100% otm. And I've never experienced anything like it. This is the only, sole show, for which this rings true. I love both the close reads and the batshit insane theorems, as equals.

supposedly the cardboard stand-ups that Showtime has been selling were kind of a gag -- if you ordered an Agent Cooper one months ago, they sent you Dougie

"Sent Dougie"

even if it was a one-off or someone was sent the wrong item, I find that hilarious

i guess the reason the syncing seems more plausible in twin peaks is because of the series' themes of overlaps, parallel dimensions and planes, different personalities emanating from the same characters, doppelgangers, a map of the show that is literally an infinity symbol, the reusing of certain footage in different episodes, the repeated use of meta-references (like cooper trying and failing to exit out of the white lodge through a socket labeled 3 in part 3, only to be pushed to use socket 15 and finally transforming from dougie to coop in part 15, along with some other symmetrical features that i've already forgotten about. i'm just saying, with all of that in mind, it doesn't seem far-fetched that lynch would edit two scenes in a way that references each other. it's a little bit different than air bud making a great pass at the same moment that two instruments in an epic Sunn O))) musical passage "pass off" a riff between two instruments or whatever. the doubling/syncing thing is embedded into the entire twin peaks experience in the first place

I hear if you watch The Return and The Wizard of Oz at the same time, every "Who's Judy?" lines up with Judy Garland appearing in a scene

(like cooper trying and failing to exit out of the white lodge through a socket labeled 3 in part 3, only to be pushed to use socket 15 and finally transforming from dougie to coop in part 15

see now this is the kind of minor detail that I didn't notice that is interesting to see cited. I don't think it literally means all that much in the larger context of the show but it's a funny meta detail.

there's lots more compelling stuff in that super long medium post - it's worth considering, even if the episodes aren't literally meant to be played simultaneously. I think you can just take it as the events in the episodes sync up, which many ppl itt and elsewhere have already noticed.

I feel like my mind is constantly, intuitively making crazy connections to other parts of twin peaks and other works of art while I'm watching but this sort of thing does nothing for me. It's like counting the number of vowels in Ulysses and checking if it's divisible by the number of consonants in the waste land.

haha yeah there's something to forced about it, mechanical