https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJY7EC8WAAAMXtt.jpg
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Monday, 11 September 2017 09:24 (six years ago) link
damn, rip dinosaurs exposed to the inky vastness of space
― Wesley Shackleton explained "look at that beast." (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 11 September 2017 09:37 (six years ago) link
I imagine they've set up shop on some other planet they landed on
― ogmor, Monday, 11 September 2017 09:55 (six years ago) link
i for one welcome the return of our hyper-evolved dinosaur overlords
― Wesley Shackleton explained "look at that beast." (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 11 September 2017 09:56 (six years ago) link
https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/dinosaucers/images/7/72/Allo-family.png
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 08:08 (six years ago) link
yessssss
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 12:12 (six years ago) link
what if the dinosaurs
― Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Sunday, 24 September 2017 14:22 (six years ago) link
are us
https://www.lrb.co.uk/v40/n04/francis-gooding/feathered-furred-or-coloured
― the pinefox, Friday, 16 February 2018 18:45 (six years ago) link
good thread eh
(did the now-vanished ben garrison cartoon include the first mention of j0rdan p3t3rson on ilx?)
― mark s, Friday, 16 February 2018 19:35 (six years ago) link
pictures of dinosaurs gazing haplessly at the arriving meteor = cultural marxist propaganda pushed by lib professors
https://jackchick.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/dinosaur41.jpg?w=470
― soref, Saturday, 17 February 2018 03:59 (six years ago) link
http://l7.alamy.com/comp/X565HB/artwork-showing-dinosaurs-caught-in-the-aftermath-of-an-asteroid-impact-the-dinosaurs-were-wiped-out-65-million-years-ago-an-event-provoked-by-the-impact-of-a-large-asteroid-or-comet-with-the-earth-the-impact-of-such-an-object-some-10km-across-threw-up-an-enormous-amount-of-debris-blocking-out-the-sun-for-months-or-years-in-this-depiction-a-blast-wave-moving-outwards-from-the-impact-site-incinerates-everything-in-its-path-carrying-with-it-superheated-and-charred-debris-these-ankylosaurid-dinosaurs-euoplocephalus-weighing-several-tons-each-do-not-stand-a-chance-against-this-X565HB.jpg
― devvvine, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 14:20 (six years ago) link
kinda pushing the definition of 'photo' there, alamy
― star wars ep viii: the bay of porgs (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 14:25 (six years ago) link
nah it's a photo of a picture
― tsrobodo, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 15:46 (six years ago) link
omg that url
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 15:47 (six years ago) link
actually, that is originally my image and you're all under arrest
https://i.imgur.com/2AFIchU.jpg
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 15:52 (six years ago) link
lol
― explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 15:52 (six years ago) link
shit, he's got us dead to rights
― #TheBeatlesIn5Words Both surviving members are Vegan (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 15:54 (six years ago) link
did you choose that name for the jpg file as well
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 15:54 (six years ago) link
artwork-showing-dinosaurs-caught-in-the-aftermath-of-an-asteroid-impact-the-dinosaurs-were-wiped-out-65-million-years-ago-an-event-provoked-by-the-impact-of-a-large-asteroid-or-comet-with-the-earth-the-impact-of-such-an-object-some-10km-across-threw-up-an-enormous-amount-of-debris-blocking-out-the-sun-for-months-or-years-in-this-depiction-a-blast-wave-moving-outwards-from-the-impact-site-incinerates-everything-in-its-path-carrying-with-it-superheated-and-charred-debris-these-ankylosaurid-dinosaurs-euoplocephalus-weighing-several-tons-each-do-not-stand-a-chance-against-this-X565HB.jpg
ha! i didn't see that until now. it's a good name!
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 15:56 (six years ago) link
as someone who has suffered through the tortuous process of uploading images to sell on alamy, i def recognise the tortured syntax that comes from trying to squeeze as many keywords as possible into a caption
― #TheBeatlesIn5Words Both surviving members are Vegan (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 15:59 (six years ago) link
Next Fiona Apple album title?
― nickn, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:52 (six years ago) link
the filename is SEO-friendly (uses dashes) so u got to give them props on that
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 20:55 (six years ago) link
dang
I can hardly believe he's this barefaced about it. It's absolutely outrageous. pic.twitter.com/SPpUrLDsDG— Archie Woodrow (@Archimbaldo) June 21, 2018
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 21 June 2018 11:58 (five years ago) link
shit lol wrong thing
Every now and then I reread this astonishing and terrifying description of the end of the dinosaurs, via @PeterBrannen1's 'The Ends of the World': pic.twitter.com/Z7EvFbPFOY— Caustic Cover Critic (@Unwise_Trousers) June 20, 2018
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 21 June 2018 11:59 (five years ago) link
can’t believe dinosaurs won the space race tens of millions of years before it even officially began, the bastards
― topless from 11am (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 21 June 2018 12:01 (five years ago) link
I love reading non-fic science descriptions of monumental calamity like that, wonderful.
― calzino, Thursday, 21 June 2018 12:03 (five years ago) link
oh yeah, that's a great passage. there's a bit in Red Mars (which is full of meteor geology history) where they mention it's possible they might be stepping over a piece of the Yucatan somewhere over by Olympus Mons or whatever. wild.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 21 June 2018 12:08 (five years ago) link
now I know what book I'm reading next
― mh, Thursday, 21 June 2018 15:20 (five years ago) link
the paul mason thing is bad also
― mark s, Thursday, 21 June 2018 15:23 (five years ago) link
if we're lucky he gets hit by a meteor
― mh, Thursday, 21 June 2018 15:23 (five years ago) link
if we're lucky we all do
― mark s, Thursday, 21 June 2018 15:28 (five years ago) link
red mars is terrific in so many ways. sometimes kinda sucks on women and people of color. and yet it has so many interesting and really pressing things on its mind, really delves into terraforming as not only a question of how but of why and for whom. but yes: endless stuff on martian canyons and meteorite ejecta and the weight of ice affecting the regolith and the difficulties of navigating cross-cutting crater systems. some of it kinda washed over me cause i was more interested in the political struggle over what mars would be, and, in the sequels, what kind of values people would have if they actually born into a physically different kind of humanity on another planet. but it's really cool imho.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 21 June 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link
i found red mars really frustrating, mainly because keeping character continuity over the lonnnng timespan of terraforming mars meant handwaving a magical life-extension potion into existence, which rubbed really awkwardly against the determinedly hard-science approach of the rest of it
― topless from 11am (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 21 June 2018 16:10 (five years ago) link
i sorrrrrt of agree but i also think it's of a piece with other things that happen in the series, making it less of a deus ex machina and more an exhibit towards a (debateable!) claim about how history and innovation work. some things are really slow and percolate around as people share the kernel of the idea and it rubs here, rubs there, and then two books later it finally comes to fruition. very STS. other ideas seem to congeal all of a sudden, like the conventional history of the edison bulb, and promulgate very rapid change. in this column you could put the gerontological treatments in book 1, the pusher-plate spacecraft in book 3, and probably something in book 2 that i'm forgetting. given the shift back and forth between human and geological time scales i think this is all deliberate though it may not be a given reader's cup of tea. and of course there are several semi-miraculous technologies that we have to accept from the get-go - mainly the reliable and easily programmed robot factories for manufacturing materials and equipment. so it goes.
anyway, imho he really does want to take on the life extension as a theme and a subject: how do people think about life when they could live that long, what kind of political issues would it raise, would it change your individual way of thinking about your actions, change the way you externalize problems onto "future generations," change the way you make sense of your own lifetime as a comprehensible biography as opposed to things so distant they could have been different people, etc.? i think the one bit of connective tissue necessary would be to really play up the idea that the labs are focused on the tumor problem because of radiation levels on the voyage and on mars, and that this specifically leads them into genetic repair. as written it feels like they just kinda picked this project out of a hat. the other thing that now seems incredibly goofy is that sea-level rise on earth turns out to not be a long-term result of greenhouse gases, but one of the quick abrupt changes, caused by a volcano erupting underneath antarctica. but there again i think he's trying to make parallels between earth and mars, similar to the kind of crazy "asteroid hitting the yucatan" type events that reshape everything in the blink of an eye. on a cosmic time scale, compressed into a few pages summarizing the geological history of mars, such events are extremely frequent. but we take for granted a somewhat stable planet because humans have been around for such a short time.
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 21 June 2018 16:40 (five years ago) link
woah dude that's my twitter
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Friday, 22 June 2018 00:01 (five years ago) link
PS Kim Stanley Robinson has a new book coming out soon called Red Moon, but afaict it's about Chinese on the Moon, rather than terraforming
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Friday, 22 June 2018 00:02 (five years ago) link
Chinese on the moon, la la la la laChinese on the moon, la la la la la la
― A Warning to the Karius (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 22 June 2018 07:29 (five years ago) link
KSR's 2312 has much more on psychological effects of life extension, as well as gender mutability becoming standard. Iirc the main protagonist has two children, one she fathered and one she mothered (neither if whom she is in contact with or appears to gaf about lol)
― A Warning to the Karius (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 22 June 2018 07:40 (five years ago) link
good post doc c - i do need to get back to reading the mars series soon cuz i did enjoy the first one despite my reservations
― topless from 11am (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 22 June 2018 08:15 (five years ago) link
lol james, also you posted an extract from that same passage further upthread
(i remember bcz i made a weedy joke abt it explaining things in terms of everyday stuff we all know and understand, like the cruising altitude of a 747)
― mark s, Friday, 22 June 2018 10:54 (five years ago) link
It was here! I thought I'd put it on twitter before, bt could not find it for the life of me, so I posted it again. At least I know I am not going mad.
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Friday, 22 June 2018 11:35 (five years ago) link
https://78.media.tumblr.com/6f234a82980ada06b9c82f7c82b3d3de/tumblr_pasgt4jmk91rvzucio1_400.jpg
― topless from 11am (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 23 June 2018 21:08 (five years ago) link
https://i1.wp.com/dinosaurworld.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/why-did-the-dinosaurs-die-dinosaurs-for-kids.jpg?fit=1280%2C720
― soref, Saturday, 23 June 2018 21:19 (five years ago) link
[This academic paper](http://uahost.uantwerpen.be/funmorph/raoul/macroevolutie/robertson2004.pdf) offers some great color on how the Chicxulub impact affected life on the other side of the globe.
For several hours following the Chicxulub impact, the entire Earth was bathed with intense infrared radiation from ballistically reentering ejecta. This was stressful enough to kill all individual nonmarine macroscopic organisms except those protected in soils, underground, under rocks, or in water, in dense aquatic vegetation, or as sequestered eggs, pupae, spores, seeds, or roots.The normal zenith solar flux reaching Earth’s surface is 1.4 kW/sq m, (which can be) compared to the estimate by Melosh et al. of global flux of thermal radiation reaching Earth’s surface of the order of 10 kW/sq m over periods ranging from one to several hours after the impact. These power levels are comparable to those obtained in a domestic oven set at ‘broil.’ Thermal energy at the Earth’s surface would have been concentrated within 6000 km of the impact and concentrated again at its antipode. The amount of overhead thermal radiation everywhere, however, would have been sufficient to ignite terrestrialfuel except where Earth’s surface was shielded by very dense cloud cover. Normal cloud cover would not have provided sufficient protection; such cloud cover"is readily evaporated and may not [have provided] much protection to the forests beneath:The air temperature at ground level at points distant from the impact (and lacking fuel for combustion-related, local temperature rise) would have been elevated by only 10 K. Vertebrates at or near the surface of the ground or water would have been able to breathe without searing their respiratory membranes. But unless they were sheltered from direct surface (skin) exposure to the IR pulse, they would have perished quickly from absorption by their surficial tissues of intense thermal radiation coming from the entire visible sky. This absorbed heat would have been transported to the nervous system with lethal results. The worldwide fire or likely subsequent reignition of dead trees by lightning would have been secondary effects.
This was stressful enough to kill all individual nonmarine macroscopic organisms except those protected in soils, underground, under rocks, or in water, in dense aquatic vegetation, or as sequestered eggs, pupae, spores, seeds, or roots.
The normal zenith solar flux reaching Earth’s surface is 1.4 kW/sq m, (which can be) compared to the estimate by Melosh et al. of global flux of thermal radiation reaching Earth’s surface of the order of 10 kW/sq m over periods ranging from one to several hours after the impact. These power levels are comparable to those obtained in a domestic oven set at ‘broil.’ Thermal energy at the Earth’s surface would have been concentrated within 6000 km of the impact and concentrated again at its antipode. The amount of overhead thermal radiation everywhere, however, would have been sufficient to ignite terrestrialfuel except where Earth’s surface was shielded by very dense cloud cover. Normal cloud cover would not have provided sufficient protection; such cloud cover"is readily evaporated and may not [have provided] much protection to the forests beneath:
The air temperature at ground level at points distant from the impact (and lacking fuel for combustion-related, local temperature rise) would have been elevated by only 10 K. Vertebrates at or near the surface of the ground or water would have been able to breathe without searing their respiratory membranes. But unless they were sheltered from direct surface (skin) exposure to the IR pulse, they would have perished quickly from absorption by their surficial tissues of intense thermal radiation coming from the entire visible sky. This absorbed heat would have been transported to the nervous system with lethal results. The worldwide fire or likely subsequent reignition of dead trees by lightning would have been secondary effects.
― Sanpaku, Saturday, 23 June 2018 22:11 (five years ago) link
same in dublin today tbh
― tired culché (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 June 2018 23:01 (five years ago) link
the first rule of chicxulub is…
― mark s, Saturday, 23 June 2018 23:52 (five years ago) link
wat is the first rool of chicxulub
― A Warning to the Karius (Bananaman Begins), Sunday, 24 June 2018 00:51 (five years ago) link
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Friday, June 22, 2018 6:35 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
You're not going crazy. itt: pictures of dinosaurs gazing haplessly at the arriving meteor
― pplains, Sunday, 24 June 2018 02:11 (five years ago) link
https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36047705_10155884648862261_442946926493564928_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=f941383a0ff352eeda935332876e66a2&oe=5BA226B7
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Sunday, 24 June 2018 02:13 (five years ago) link