This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2017

Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri is getting waaaaay more enthusiastic reviews than the early trailers had me suspecting.

And it just won the TIFF audience award.

http://variety.com/2017/film/news/toronto-film-festival-audience-award-three-billboards-1202561527/

Morbs is secretly filing detrius my way. Gotham Awards (earliest nominations of the year at this point)...

https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/5054-the-daily-2017-gotham-awards-nominations

BEST FEATURE
Call Me by Your Name
The Florida Project
Get Out
Good Time
I, Tonya

BEST DOCUMENTARY
Ex Libris – The New York Public Library
Rat Film
Strong Island
Whose Streets?
The Work

BINGHAM RAY BREAKTHROUGH DIRECTOR AWARD
Maggie Betts for Novitiate
Greta Gerwig for Lady Bird
Kogonada for Columbus
Jordan Peele for Get Out
Joshua Z Weinstein for Menashe

BEST SCREENPLAY
The Big Sick, Emily V. Gordon and Kumail Nanjiani
Brad’s Status, Mike White
Call Me by Your Name, James Ivory
Columbus, Kogonada
Get Out, Jordan Peele
Lady Bird, Greta Gerwig

BEST ACTOR
Willem Dafoe in The Florida Project
James Franco in The Disaster Artist
Daniel Kaluuya in Get Out
Robert Pattinson in Good Time
Adam Sandler in The Meyerowitz Stories (New and Selected)
Harry Dean Stanton in Lucky

BEST ACTRESS
Melanie Lynskey in I Don’t Feel at Home in This World Anymore
Haley Lu Richardson in Columbus
Margot Robbie in I, Tonya
Saoirse Ronan in Lady Bird
Lois Smith in Marjorie Prime

BEST ENSEMBLE
The 2017 Best Actor/Best Actress nominating committee has also voted to award a special Gotham Jury Award for ensemble performance to Mudbound. The award will go to actors Carey Mulligan, Garrett Hedlund, Jason Clarke, Jason Mitchell, Mary J. Blige, Rob Morgan, and Jonathan Banks.

BREAKTHROUGH ACTOR
Mary J. Blige in Mudbound
Timothée Chalamet in Call Me by Your Name
Harris Dickinson in Beach Rats
Kelvin Harrison, Jr. in It Comes at Night
Brooklynn Prince in The Florida Project

And, because TV is movies now ...

BREAKTHROUGH SERIES, LONG FORM
Atlanta, Donald Glover, creator
Better Things, Pamela Adlon and Louis C.K.
Dear White People, Justin Simien
Fleabag, Phoebe Waller-Bridge
Search Party, Sarah-Violet Bliss, Charles Rogers, and Michael Showalter

If I have a sight-unseen rooting interest this year among detrius, it might be Laurie Metcalf in Lady Bird.

glad to see attention for Good Time, Columbus, Lois Smith

Willem Dafoe in The Florida Project

not only category fraud but aesthetic fraud

I sense Get Out is cruising toward a lot of consolation prizes in best screenplay.

watch James Ivory get Best Adapted screenplay in the guilds that separate the two categories

i expect Cynthia Nixon's Emily D to show or place in one critics' group at least, maybe Boston.

Should have been all of them :(

She ought to steamroll the Nat'l Society, I think.

Welcome @nyfcc class of 2017! @melvillmatic @davidehrlich @DecentFilms @carynjames @unbuttonmyeyes @sheilakathleen @davidlsims @alissamarie

— Keith Uhlich (@keithuhlich) October 27, 2017

Major congrats to @DecentFilms, @melvillmatic, @sheilakathleen and the rest of the new members of the Armondless-NYFCC!!

— Michael Sicinski (@msicism) October 27, 2017

most of em little known to me cept Ehrlich and James

Violet Lucca runs the Film Comment podcast.

Sure, but I've never heard it; I have read her in the mag/site tho.

British Indies:

https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/5092-the-daily-lady-macbeth-leads-bifa-nominations

God's Own Country > Call Me By Your Name

So sez them, anyway.

I just saw GOC; it's pretty damn good and is in a different key than CMBYN. (eg, violent mud sex.) But I wouldn't agree with the equation.

IDA Documentary Awards nominations

https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/5093-the-daily-ida-documentary-awards-nominations

I just saw GOC; it's pretty damn good and is in a different key than CMBYN. (eg, violent mud sex.) But I wouldn't agree with the equation.

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, November 1, 2017

A colleague who saw it at Key West last month said much the same thing.

also casually full-frontal in the indie Brit way

So, it's really looking like the quartet of the year is: Gary Oldman, Frances McDormand, Willem Dafoe, Allison Janney.

I used to be an Oscar nerd; now I don't even know which movies they're in (Dafoe excepted).

Oldman as Churchill, McDormand in "Three Billboards..."?

The only way for a Brit to win these days is to play an Audio Animatronic doll.

Oldman as Churchill - There is a movie I'd pay not to watch, although I'm sure it will be a big hit with The Football Lads Alliance type crowds. Sometimes I think in post-brexit times every UK movie is just going to be a Dunkirk remake for the next decade.

And every horror movie in the U.S. will be about Trump.

McDormand in "Three Billboards..."?

Yup. Unless Sally Hawkins' swamp fever keeps up the momentum.

intriguing!

Boom. pic.twitter.com/o6LmIdFiuM

— Jason Bailey (@jasondashbailey) November 7, 2017

It's easy when membership in the four groups overlaps, but still, damn.

there are critics in two or more of LA, NY, and Boston? I suspect not.

NYC, National Society, and L.A. membership often overlapped, esp the first two.

National Society is the only one that doubles up with others I think.

well sure, NSFC would be the one that had members for the other groups. xp

My own group, victims of Disney's screwing practices, i's having an internal discussion about it as I type.

lol uh screening but what's the difference

Concurrently with your drive to also disqualify The Florida Project.

the NYT joined the fray

then Disney folded! crisis over.

Disney execs strapped down at lunch, forced to watch The Florida Project.

Thank goodness critics won't have to work themselves up in knots about not being ethically disposed toward awarding Cars 3.

or Luke Skywalker: The Last Prostate

http://awardswatch.com/2017/11/13/american-gods-outlander-novitiate-the-post-among-19th-womens-image-awards-film-and-television-nominees/

Women’s Image Awards Nominations

Documentary Feature Film

After Spring (Starz)
Gender Revolution (National Geographic Channel)
Hungry (Logo Television Network)
Mansfield 66/67 (Gunpowder and Sky)

Feature Film

The Leisure Seeker (Sony Pictures Classics)
Novitiate (Sony Pictures Classics)
The Post (20th Century Fox)
Film Stars Don’t Die In Liverpool (Sony Pictures Classics)
Maudie (Sony Pictures Classics)

Actress Feature Film

Helen Mirren The Leisure Seeker
Melissa Leo Novitiate
Sally Hawkins Maudie
Meryl Streep The Post
Annette Bening Film Stars Don’t Die In Liverpool

Foreign Language Film

First They Killed My Father (Cambodia) (Netflix)
The Divine Order (Switzerland) (Zeitgeist Films / Kino Lorber)
The Square (Sweden) (Magnolia Pictures)
A Fantastic Woman (Chile) (Sony Pictures Classics)

The "written by," "directed by" and "produced by" women categories mix TV and film, which only goes to point out how much more work women get in TV than they do in feature films.

How did The Square make it's way unto that list...

going to see The Square tomorrow

good night and good luck!

Saw it earlier today, actually. So good.

Is that the new one by the director of Force Majeure? I liked FM, but the reviews I've read of this one (both positive and negative) make it sound fairly insufferable, I gotta say.

the ape scene in My Man Godfrey is funnier.

My Man Godfrey is funnier than most things, tbf.

i found FM overrated, won't pay to see this one

this has probably been discussed ad infinitum but does anyone else think that the expanded best pic field has evaporated a lot of enthusiasm for the Academy Awards? or maybe it's something else? I recognize my own ambivalence in recent times vs previous decades but i'm sensing it elsewhere too. i don't know if the ratings reflect it, so i might be completely wrong, but i think some of the shine has been taken off.

― omar little, T

Remember Hannah Arendt: "When all are guilty, none are."

Yeah, catch it in a theater if you can. It's been re-released to theaters where I live, which surprised me at first, but makes total sense. I hated it - we don't need any more WWII movies or any movies that depict war as anything but totally pointless and endlessly destructive - but it absolutely deserves the Best Cinematography Oscar. it's a beautiful looking movie. the sound is really good, too.

it's better than his usual because it has almost no dialogue and the action scenes are crisp but it's like other Nolan films in that it has no reason to exist

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

this is so, so otm. although i enjoyed Interstellar a lot despite the fact that it made no fucking sense

It's the editing one that it really should have a lock on.

I just had to look up the Best Editing category: Dunkirk; Baby Driver; The Shape of Water; I, Tonya; Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri. yeah I mean the only competition there really is Baby Driver.

I'd say Dunkirk has both sound awards and editing and that's about it.

It should win everything, of course, except best soundtrack and, uhm, dialogue...

seeing Dunkirk in a theater with all the bells and whistles for $28, no thx

again, this is where moviepass comes in handy

as soon as they let me do it w/out a smartphone, i'm in. (but i don't think IMAX screenings are covered)

i see plenty of stuff with my current resources.

imax / 3d is a no; same for most "in advance" booking so no it's not perfect.
i've seen a total of one 3-d imax film (gravity) and i'm okay never doing either ever again

"Not seeing The Other Side of Hope enough"

this had some very nice Ozu style colours and warmth, and the sushi scene was one of the funniest things I've seen all year.

Yeah, Dunkirk deserves tons of technical awards

Shocked Ladybird isn’t up for best editing, it really was a huge part in telling the story

https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/02/15/film-poll-comments-winners-and-losers/

Man, six slams on Call Me By Your Name in a row...

But then, for Alfred, this:

“Many of this year’s best films (Dunkirk, Nocturama, BPM, The Beguiled) were about the power of collectivity. That’s sort of how The Florida Project starts out, but it eventually retrenches into a selfish world where families and finally individuals turn on one another, as if to imply that in the last analysis, there’s no helping the feral poor. And, when all else fails, go to Disney World.” —Michael Sicinski

ha, there's like two unqualifiedly positive comments in that whole page

And they were both for the latest Gore Verbinski movie.

I liked CMBYN a lot and have my criticisms but every one of those comments reeks of smugness. No sex? No Italian vistas? Did they even watch the movie?

Yeah, most of those comments were askew.

"Non-horror movies that act like horror movies" is my worst nightmare, honeybunch. ;)

I could tell.

With a side helping of "horror movies that act like horror movies."

How on earth do you take Nocturama to be about the power of collectivity?

wait, is Sacred Deer a horror movie or not?

The teamwork of that French SWAT team was awesome and inspiring. xp

xp well it's a comedy, first and foremost

https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/02/16/film-poll-the-full-results/

OK, Twin Peaks came closer to the top 10 than I figured.

there are voters in that pool i haven't thought of in 20 years -- Joanna Langfield, David Ansen -- plus the young turks i've never heard of.

Get Out was indeed "pants" plotwise tho.

pants?

ask the kids

BAFTAs to 3BB

https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/5405-the-daily-three-billboards-tops-the-baftas

I didn't mention In Transit on the other thread because I saw it several years ago

Skandies poll results ... Nocturama at #1, Vicky Krieps as best actress

http://skandies.org/results/categories.1?year=2017

Can anyone shed any light on how the character of the Skandies panel might lead it to coalesce around Nocturama as the best film of the year?

they're terr'ists eh

at least they don't recognize child rapists like [lists every white guy in movies]

I'm happy with this explanation.

The D'Angelo effect usually only applies to MD'A's favorite movie of the year, which this year was mother!

Indie Spirit Awards: Get Out, Peele, Chalamet, McDormand, Rockwell, Janney

http://variety.com/2018/film/news/spirit-awards-2018-winners-list-1202716594/

Ingrid Goes West over Columbus for best first feature is some bullshit. (Not as much as magically promoting Get Out beyond the category, of course.)

I really want to see Columbus (won the Filmspotting podcast's "golden brick" of the year – are any of you listeners?) but can find zero sign of it getting a UK release in cinemas following its LFF appearance.

I guess it'll turn up on Mubi or whatever some time.

Ingrid Goes West was great

I laughed a lot.

Elizabeth Olsen should've been nominated in Supp Actress.

I swear Columbus was briefly streaming on Amazon Prime, didn’t catch it in time

it's fine i don't know why people liked it so much

IGW was watchable, not the scorching anti-Twitter jeremiad we need

six Cesars to BPM

http://variety.com/2018/film/news/robin-campillos-bpm-beats-per-minute-wins-best-film-at-cesar-awards-1202715674/

Finally: my longform aggregation roundup of the ~31 films shot on 35mm released in 2017. https://t.co/BzuYJipC4P

— Vadim Rizov (@vrizov) April 5, 2018

Great piece, thanks for the link... that bit about Sean Baker preserving his digitally shot films and losing one of the master files for Starlet is really sobering.