haha otm! Avoiding this like the plague.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 14 September 2017 17:20 (six years ago) link
idk it's his tastelessness/lack of restraint I find refreshing so I feel like going full grindhouse will be a good look for him
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 14 September 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link
like if I wanted more milquetoast american schmindie there's...half of netflix
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 14 September 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link
i resist whatever binary you're setting up there
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 September 2017 17:29 (six years ago) link
Whatever lens MD'A sees movies through doesn't match mine, but I will never fail to have my interest piqued when he gets genuinely enthusiastic.
mother! (Aronofsky): 85. Here's the thing: Metaphors are inherently kinda dumb. If you're making one, GO FOR MOTHERFUCKING BROKE. Comme ça.— Mike D'Angelo (@gemko) September 10, 2017
― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Thursday, 14 September 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link
obviously I'm being reductive but I'm always suspicious of people who dismiss filmmakers using that type of language xp
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 14 September 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link
like, "intensely dumb" could describe so many of my favorite movies (and also me)
sort of interested. I still feel like Jennifer Lawrence has immense potential and I'd rather see her in an Aronofsky movie than a David O. Russell.
― jmm, Thursday, 14 September 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link
well we're in an era where smart filmmaking is the Batman movie where he's a Lego and there are feelings.
― nomar, Thursday, 14 September 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link
I also don't really know what "pleased with itself" means, is this when a movie you don't like feels confidently made?
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 14 September 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link
All it really means is "someone told me the film maker's pedigree and now I feel insecure"
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Thursday, 14 September 2017 17:41 (six years ago) link
lmao ok y'all i'll refrain from quoting pithy two sentence reviews in the future
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 September 2017 17:51 (six years ago) link
This is the mode -- really the only mode -- I like Aronofsky in. So I'm expecting to like this.
― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Thursday, 14 September 2017 17:53 (six years ago) link
should I watch Noah y/n
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 14 September 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link
literally the only review I actually remember was Chris from Propagandhi extolling it as a parable about veganism
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 14 September 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link
lmao
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 September 2017 18:01 (six years ago) link
Aronofsky's shitty track record as a filmmaker is more off-putting to me than anything else tbh.
otm, i kind of hate this guy
― marcos, Thursday, 14 September 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link
I heard this horrendous interview with him on 5Live last week. What they should have asked him was "are you christopher nolan in disguise?".
― calzino, Thursday, 14 September 2017 19:13 (six years ago) link
cant be any worse than j laws mop movie
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 14 September 2017 19:14 (six years ago) link
I am developing a thesis that the 60-80% range on rotten tomatoes is where the most interesting movies tend to end up and this is sitting nicely in that range
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 14 September 2017 20:41 (six years ago) link
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/spring_breakers_2013/
The math checks out.
― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Thursday, 14 September 2017 21:15 (six years ago) link
hahaha yesss
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 14 September 2017 21:18 (six years ago) link
Noah is definitely Aronofsky's most entertaining movie
― Number None, Thursday, 14 September 2017 21:20 (six years ago) link
Well, going by my own rule, I guess I have to see it
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/noah_2014
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 14 September 2017 21:22 (six years ago) link
intriguing cast and i honestly don't hate any of his movies (seen all but Noah)
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 September 2017 21:25 (six years ago) link
Does this prove or disprove your thesis? https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ghostbusters_2016
― MarkoP, Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:06 (six years ago) link
Pi and Black Swan were really good. The Wrestler is a bit run-of-the-mill plotwise but Mickey Rourke makes it. Requiem is a bit shit alright.
― Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:17 (six years ago) link
Does this prove or disprove your thesis?
It certainly doesn't help, though winnowing it to "top critics" takes it down to 60 which puts it right on the edge.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:24 (six years ago) link
I loved The Wrestler and Black Swan but everything is garbage. Mildly excited to see this.
― Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:30 (six years ago) link
s/everything/everything else
I forgot about the Wrestler, that might be my favorite. which is to say I thought it was "pretty good" instead of garbage.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:32 (six years ago) link
The Wrestler was pretty much a movie by some other director. Not literally, but may as well have been.
― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:34 (six years ago) link
his movies have been pretty diverse! Beyond most of them indulging in one form of aesthetic excess or another it's tough for me to locate a common thread.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:35 (six years ago) link
beyond "obsession", I guess, which is 99% of movies really
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:37 (six years ago) link
as someone who thought black swan was hilarious i should probably be into this
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:40 (six years ago) link
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Yv6L4DunPDE/maxresdefault.jpg
http://screenmusings.org/movie/blu-ray/The-Fountain/images/The-Fountain-363.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_OSaJE2rqxU/maxresdefault.jpg
― Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:41 (six years ago) link
Admittedly, I've not read or heard interviews with the guy for at least seven years, but surely Pi, Requiem, Wrestler and Black Swan are all half-decent films? He sure had his misfirings but I don't know where the hate comes from.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:45 (six years ago) link
so...beards? more seriously I could see a case for squinting at the divine as a thread, but only in a few of 'em xp
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:46 (six years ago) link
lol The Fountain
xp
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:46 (six years ago) link
Filed under misfirings :)
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:47 (six years ago) link
heaven help me but I like The Fountain
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:48 (six years ago) link
tbh if we polled his movies I have no idea what would win
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:49 (six years ago) link
I found Pi and Requiem actively irritating, the Wrestler endearing if slight, and Black Swan I think I started to watch once but fell asleep
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:50 (six years ago) link
I should see that, I do like Winaynay
er Wino Forever
Pi actively irritating, really? Did you watch it around the time when it came out, or way later and maybe his image influenced it? I find nothing irritating about Pi. It can not be for you, sure, but that's something else.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:51 (six years ago) link
I saw it when it came out. The ending, which the whole film is a furious buildup to, was a copout.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:52 (six years ago) link
Idk it sucked me in Eraserhead-like, and by the time the ending came I already had my fair share of enjoyment
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link
The new one apparently does not have a score, which is a genuine surprise.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 14 September 2017 23:01 (six years ago) link
I thought you said it was scoring in the 60-80% range
― Number None, Thursday, 14 September 2017 23:03 (six years ago) link
lol @ the lead actress
― i know kore-eda (or something), Monday, 25 December 2017 08:54 (six years ago) link
this movie was great, I don't get all you people who hated it. It was a bit "here is a very blatant metaphor' but I kind of appreciated that. At least it tried.
"A lot of the criticisms are the opposite of how I felt about it. I thought it was deeply feminist and Christian
― Whiney G. Weingarten, "
Yes
― akm, Saturday, 30 December 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link
We just watched this over two nights. After yesterday we thought it was pretty good, after finishing it today I feel like I've been put through a traumatic experience for no reason, my wife says it was a "parable about nothing." Feel like there's all the ingredients for a great movie in there somewhere, but something's gone really wrong in the cooking, we're all stuck here eating this baby and we don't know why.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 21:41 (five years ago) link
I don’t know if “parable about nothing” is really apt for this. I mean I think it’s main fault is in how sledgehammer-y it is with its themes.
― circa1916, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 21:55 (five years ago) link
My glib go-to on aronofsky’s religiobabble movies is that they are judeo-christian mystery plays rendered as Scientology
― coetzee.cx (wins), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 22:00 (five years ago) link
Its weird that I felt sledgehammered but at the same time I don't know what point he was making. Stay away from asshole messianic writers? Fans tend to assume they own their heroes too much? Don't let a bunch of weirdos into your house?
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 22:05 (five years ago) link
fred armisen's impression of kristen wiig is that she's cold all the time and is always looking for a sweater -- maybe the point of the movie is to construct a very elaborate joke about fred armisen's impression of kristen wiig.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 22:11 (five years ago) link
He's an artist! *slap* She's a mother! *slap* He's an artist! *slap* She's a mother! *slap*
― WmC, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 22:11 (five years ago) link
~spoilers~He is God, she/the house = Mother Earth, babby = Jesus, etc. Environmentalist movie with biblical underpinnings.
― circa1916, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 22:15 (five years ago) link
I ignored the religious themes because they were so poorly thought-through, assumed there must be something more to it, reading an interview now it seems that was the whole point of the exercise? So why bother creating characters at all?
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 22:19 (five years ago) link
why bother doing anything ever
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 22:21 (five years ago) link
the creation / destruction stuff was just so glib, I assumed it was part of the idiocy of the poet
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 22:21 (five years ago) link
Does DA think there is a god, but he is a shallow narcissistic asshole? I guess I can be down with that.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 22:24 (five years ago) link
is this more or less scary than mike pence’s mother
― estela, Thursday, 1 November 2018 01:22 (five years ago) link
tell us quickly mrs pence is killing me
― lie back and think of englund (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 November 2018 01:36 (five years ago) link
Kinda liked this; some of it doesn't work, but it's ambitious, and has the right attitude toward humanity (mistake).
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 3 March 2019 15:18 (five years ago) link
Don't let a bunch of weirdos into your house?
Let has nothing to do with it. Do you have relatives or friends? They'll be there.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 3 March 2019 15:20 (five years ago) link
I didn't, because as I liked her for the first time since Winter's Bone here, I have no notion as to why she's a "superstar."
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 3 March 2019 15:22 (five years ago) link
Darren comes off as an asshole in the book "meet me in the bathroom." Lol.
― nathom, Sunday, 3 March 2019 16:10 (five years ago) link
TIM GOLDSWORTHY: Darren Aronofsky would turn up at Plant Bar with a wifebeater on, leaning on a bar, “Hey, guys, what are you drinking?” He’s such a tosser. He really reminds me of the super-nerdy Dungeons and Dragons kids who really wants to be cool.
think Goldsworthy comes off worse here tbh...
― Number None, Sunday, 3 March 2019 16:12 (five years ago) link
probly upset that I had to google who he is
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 3 March 2019 16:16 (five years ago) link
this movie fairly accurately conjured up the feeling of being trapped in a nightmare, for that I appreciated it.
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 3 March 2019 17:05 (five years ago) link
Xpost haha. Yeah.
― nathom, Sunday, 3 March 2019 17:07 (five years ago) link
also Pfeiffer and Wiig brought some lols. (The former: "Wow, you really love him. God help you.")
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 3 March 2019 17:23 (five years ago) link
lol when i watched this film it was during a sleepless slow onset of fever for something that I was hospitalised for days later and I still thought it seemed clumsy and empty.
― plax (ico), Sunday, 3 March 2019 18:21 (five years ago) link
I was really hard on this movie when it came out & thinking back on it, pretty sure I still hate most of it, but there are some hilarious moments (Wiig shooting people execution style especially).
― flappy bird, Monday, 4 March 2019 04:10 (five years ago) link
Rewatched it to see if it compared to what it feels like to be alive these last three months and, voila! Masterpiece.
― Dirty Epic H. (Eric H.), Monday, 22 June 2020 00:38 (three years ago) link
have been planning on watching this for the last three years! will get around to it soon
― Dan S, Monday, 22 June 2020 00:45 (three years ago) link
maybe should see Black Swan again, I reacted negatively to it at the time and think my experience with it contributed to my reluctance to see mother!
― Dan S, Monday, 22 June 2020 01:06 (three years ago) link
I'm never sure about my past film opinions, especially when a decade or more has gone by. Pi and Requiem were interesting at the time, but that was a different era in my life and I can hardly remember them now.
― Dan S, Monday, 22 June 2020 01:09 (three years ago) link
I have always been pro mother! !!!
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 22 June 2020 03:30 (three years ago) link
Someday. Not soon, not at home. But someday.
― flappy bird, Monday, 22 June 2020 04:26 (three years ago) link
I thought this was one of the worst movies I have ever seen. Like, Lady In The Water-levels of bad.
― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 22 June 2020 21:34 (three years ago) link
it was so bad it made me angry, but have already complained about it upthread.
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 22 June 2020 21:38 (three years ago) link
Admittedly my default w films maudit is to love tgdm
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 22 June 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link
I thought this was one of the worst movies I have ever seen. Like, Lady In The Water-levels of bad.― Paul Ponzi, Monday, June 22, 2020 5:34 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
it was so bad it made me angry, but have already complained about it upthread.― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, June 22, 2020 5:38 PM (fifty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Ditto--but the idea that it has pandemic resonances has me intrigued.
― clemenza, Monday, 22 June 2020 22:40 (three years ago) link
lol i watched this film when i had a fever and it was still unconvincing
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 18:47 (three years ago) link
i admire this film's dedication to being really annoying
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link
imo aronofsky packed all of his good ideas into the fountain
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 18:50 (three years ago) link
finally saw it, it made sense (as has been mentioned) as a story about our treatment of earth
“He is God, she/the house = Mother Earth, babby = Jesus, etc. Environmentalist movie with biblical underpinnings.― circa1916, Wednesday, October 31, 2018”
...is the essence imo.
I didn't hate it, don't think I will ever want to watch it again though
― Dan S, Sunday, 12 July 2020 23:56 (three years ago) link
^^ My exact reaction to every Aronofsky movie I've seen lol
― Sabre of Paradise (trevor phillips), Monday, 13 July 2020 01:08 (three years ago) link
she was hot (joke about darren aronofsky's mother!)
― carin' (map), Monday, 13 July 2020 01:26 (three years ago) link