Greatest movie to earn a CinemaScore "F"

Another one for Bug.

So after reading the wiki for Wolf Creek, um, what do you guys like about it?

people die cos of a bad Crocodile Dundee joke

John Jarrat, kindly tv home handyman turned psychokiller

srsly he's my favorite thing abt the movie

my mum used to watch him on tv!!

I hated Bug when I saw it in the theater but it's still better than the others I've seen (Killing Them Softly, Wicker Man, Wolf Creek).

solaris gets hung up on the artificial wife nonsense just like the tarkovsky version. misses the noteworthy sf aspects of the book.

I never heard of this thing before this week and now im seeing references to it everywhere. So these are films where basically the entire audience came out hating it?

I never heard of this thing before this week and now im seeing references to it everywhere.

same here. and earlier this week, just a couple days ago, my partner said the same thing, like "i've never heard of this thing and now it's everywhere."

crepey tbh

same thing happened to me with MoviePass this week

i think you're seeing references to cinemascore because it became part of the media narrative of a movie every single publication is writing about

and moviepass just had a media blitz

isn't that what someone paid by CinemaScore to calm down those who are alarmed about it would tell me? STAY AWAKE PEOPLE

D-

it sounds like movie studios are adjusting their advertising budgets based on cinemascores, then attributing the success of movies with bigger ad budgets to their cinemascores.

how do you adjust an ad budget based on a score that isn't taken until the movie's release date (afaik)

The only film I've seen on here is Solaris, which I saw in the theater, and it was perfectly fine, possibly more watchable than the Tarkovsky version.

― Moodles, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 23:26 (yesterday) Bookmark

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Are a lot of these here cos theyre really violent horror flicks or something? I mean wolf creek is a hard watch but its not a bad movie and I dont even like horror films.

...actually the article sort of answered that, I should have read it all first dur.

Wolf Creek is a good film

I never heard of this thing before this week and now im seeing references to it everywhere. So these are films where basically the entire audience came out hating it?
― good art is orange; great art is teal (wins), Thursday, September 21, 2017 1:29 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

same here. and earlier this week, just a couple days ago, my partner said the same thing, like "i've never heard of this thing and now it's everywhere."
crepey tbh
― Karl Malone, Thursday, September 21, 2017 1:31 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The turns out not-so-rare CinemaScore "F" always gets a fresh round of attention every time each film that earns it is released. Then, since no one sees most of these movies, people forget all about its existence until the next time a movie gets an "F."

I think 19 movies in 31 years counts as rare, though it's interesting that a disproportionate number are from the last decade or so

The really weird thing looking at their site is that pretty much anything under a "B" is reasonably rare.

That matches most preference rating systems. On a five star system most people rarely rate things lower than 4 unless they really didn't like it. On ten point systems I think the waterline is 7.

ordinary fuckin' people are generally satisfied with any movie as long as they get to pig out and text

Ordinary people grade movies on whether they're worth $11 or if you should wait to stream.

They really need to make the site searchable by score for dorks like me. I want to see the D-minuses also.

we're just ordinary people
we shoulda waited for the stream

It's really telling that basically none of the movies which are broadly viewed as execrable and irredeemable are on this list. Like, am I to believe that Disaster Movie is really the only instance among many similar attempts when general audiences failed to connect with bottom-of-the-barrel LCD pabulum?

Those movies generally give the audience that sees them what they want.

That's what I'm sayin', though. What made Disaster Movie in particular such an outlier? I'm curious!

8mm is another 'bad' movie I think has a great soundtrack.

Cliff Martinez is the master of this: Solaris, Contagion, Only God Forgives...all great soundtracks.

those first 2 are good films

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In the Cut is quite good, surprised that's there. Solaris was fine.

I can even make a top 5:

Bug
The Box
mother!
Wolf Creek
In the Cut

Wickerman remake is classic for "KILLING ME WON'T BRING BACK YOUR GOD DAMN HONEY!!!" alone

NARRATOR VOICE: It did.

I've only seen The Box and Solaris. I enjoyed both!

Out of those two, I guess Solaris is technically the better movie, but an ambitious but flawed movie like the box is ultimately more interesting.

My tolerance for badly executed high concept sci-fi is much higher than with any other genre.

this is a fierce bad list

My tolerance for badly executed high concept sci-fi is much higher than with any other genre.

― silverfish, Wednesday, October 18, 2017 7:54 AM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

same, although you can add horror in for me

the bait-and-switch of the box, which starts out as a pretty standard, gorgeously shot thriller that eventually pursues its paranoid delusions all the way to their ends, is still so thrilling to me. donnie darko had a similar narrative evolution but dude executes it much better in the box imo

(southland tales is one of my favorite movies of all time though so)

Doctor T and the Women

been curious about this one since I caught a glimpse of Gere's hair

It's odd. I'm not surprised its on the list--the packed house I saw it with on opening night didn't know what to make of it.

CinemaScore's surveying the audience who will go to a movie's opening day cold, having seen a trailer or advertisement at most, has illuminated a social demographic that needs a full-blown research study

who are these people, and why do they go to these movies

What I love about The Box is that I imagine the studio sitting Richard Kelly down after the commercial and (mostly) critical fiasco of Southland Tales and being like "OK dude we'll give you ONE more chance, but we're going to stick you with a hoary old, no-fail Twilight Zone trope so nothing goes off the rails. That work for you?"

"...sure."

been curious about this one since I caught a glimpse of Gere's hair

I couldn't make it through the first 15 minutes

CinemaScore's surveying the audience who will go to a movie's opening day cold, having seen a trailer or advertisement at most, has illuminated a social demographic that needs a full-blown research study

Right. What Dr. T scoring an F mainly suggests to me, though, is that Richard Gere had a lot more currency in 2000 than I would have expected.

I was thinking about writing a column about these films in chronological order but I couldn't finish the first one, Eye of the Beholder. It might actually be the worst of the bunch, just so dour and self-important and uselessly sadistic. The novelty of KD Lang being in it wears off quickly too.

Hadn't heard of that one before, but I suppose it is encouraging that, for a list that seems to punish the offbeat, ambitious or potentially divisive, some of these movies really are just crap.

I mean, yeah, thank you Disaster Movie.

That one puzzles me, if only because I'm having a hard time imagining what the paying audience was for it in the first place beyond, I suppose, people who's first choice (and second, and third...) was sold out? And, if this series of movies (meaning post-Scary Movie spoofs) does have fans, what is it about Disaster Movie that could possibly leave a fan of Date Movie or whatever so bitterly disappointed? I almost want to watch it to find out. Almost.

Maybe they were less willing to see the humor in mass death?

I saw disaster movie in theaters. it was wild. the only other people there besides me and my friend were a family of four that left 20 minutes in and a trio of siblings probably 6 to 11 years old that were completely silent the whole time, except when the Hancock starring Will Smith parody happened, upon which they all yelled "Hancock!!"

remember this was the first friedberg seltzer movie to totally flop. the dream was over, and it's not like these movies actually had a real following (except dumbasses like me). also I can confirm that it was genuinely "worse" than the other ones simply because the other ones looked like they cost more than maybe $500 and 2 days to make. it was so bad.

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 The Wicker Man [remake]	8

I figured as such.

hey brad, southland tales is one of my favourite movies too, my kind of people :-/

southland tales is a trip!

The 5 of you voted for the box are just baffling to me. I mean you clearly exist, but how?

how shouldn't we exist?

well see, I've got this box here...

oh god help us if Clooney ever has a go at Andrei Rublev

southland tales is a trip!

to the outhouse

The 5 of you voted for the box are just baffling to me. I mean you clearly exist, but how?

― jjjusten, Wednesday, October 18, 2017 8:58 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

your car is a box on wheels

i continue to believe that "doctor t and the women" is a sequel to "the 5000 fingers of dr t", and i will not be convinced otherwise.