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does Rockbox actually keep track of play counts, playlists, etc etc ? I thought all that stuff was a luxury but I use it all the time.

frogbs, Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:24 (six years ago) link

i ~think~ it does play counts? That might be a preference I have kept disabled. It's pretty easy to build playlists from within the RockBoxed player itself, but I think trickier to import playlists into the player.

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:26 (six years ago) link

Ugh, mine just died, too. Tried to add Neil Young's Hitchhiker and the Jacksons' Triumph, it got caught in a syncing loop, tried to restore it five times, kept getting caught in a loop. I blame my car. When I started plugging my ipod into my car's USB dealie, the ipod started acting weird. And now it's dead.

if they'd make a 256 GB iPhone I'd be cool with it. how hard can it be really.

― frogbs, Thursday, September 21, 2017 10:48 AM (twenty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

They do! The iphone 8 (and probably the X) has a 256 option.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:31 (six years ago) link

hah...so the endgame is gonna be to hold out another 3 years until I can get one of those on the cheap

frogbs, Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:32 (six years ago) link

but then you gotta deal with no headphone jack!!!! god damnit apple

frogbs, Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:35 (six years ago) link

or you buy yourself a 60 or 70 dollar MP3 player and a 200GB micro SD card right now :)

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:36 (six years ago) link

or multiple 200GB cards so you can switch them out depending on your mood

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:36 (six years ago) link

I think the new iphones come with a lightning-to-1/8" adapter. Still, needlessly annoying.

xxp

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:37 (six years ago) link

I dread this day. I don't use Apple products for phone or computer, but use my ipod every day as a podcast machine, mostly. I subscribe & dl through the iTunes store and put them on my ipod.

What would be the theoretical no-ipod solution? My Android phone is old, janky, and constantly running out of space, I can't really see streaming or downloading podcasts on that as workable. Download through Stitcher or something and put them on some other mp3 player?

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:48 (six years ago) link

This whole conversation is so depressingly 'I understand that your kidney is giving out, how about we replace it with this beer can with a whistle glued to it'.

Scott Staph (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link

I am iPod touch curious. My Classic is still healthy & strong, but phone battery life is nowhere near strong enough for me to consider going that route (also, I think the iPhone 8 has a lot of other assy, hateable qualities and I want to keep my 6 for as long as I can).

grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link

is iPod touch battery life anywhere near iPod Classic's? I assumed it was not, based on iPhone battery life.

The more I explore the alternatives the more I realize I'll sacrifice a lot of nice-to-haves for the sake of really long battery life.

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 21 September 2017 16:03 (six years ago) link

This whole conversation is so depressingly 'I understand that your kidney is giving out, how about we replace it with this beer can with a whistle glued to it'.

― Scott Staph (Old Lunch), Thursday, September 21, 2017 10:50 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark

i normally do not enjoy hyperbolic analogies but i am feeling this
having my ipod working is very much like having an organ i rely on working

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 21 September 2017 17:11 (six years ago) link

regarding ipod touch (or old iphone being used as a pseudo ipod touch) - is the experience of dragging music from your computer's iTunes library into the phone's library any less torturous and buggy than it used to be? The last time I tried to do so in earnest was like mid 2013 and stuff was always appearing grayed-out and unplayable in the phone library and then impossible to delete. I gave up on the iphone-as-music-player partly because of that.

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 21 September 2017 17:11 (six years ago) link

at least we have started the conversation. i feel less freakish for loving my ipod so much!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 21 September 2017 17:15 (six years ago) link

no dude it is uncommon but there are plenty of us with this unholy passion

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 21 September 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link

re: dragging and dropping, I don't know if it's any less buggy now (or if it's even still an option for managing music), but after having the same problems you describe I started using sync rather than drag and drop and haven't had an issue since. I have a playlist called "iPhone" and put whatever I want on the phone in there, and set iTunes to only sync that playlist to the phone. Works perfectly every time now.

early rejecter, Thursday, 21 September 2017 17:46 (six years ago) link

can you make playlists on it?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 21 September 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link

or put playlists on it? instead of just that one playlist i mean

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 21 September 2017 17:51 (six years ago) link

You can identify any playlist on your iTunes as one to auto-sync to the phone, I believe... earl can confirm

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 21 September 2017 17:53 (six years ago) link

you can, it's just another playlist. I think iTunes automatically does that (or at least it used to) if you plugged in an iPod for the first time that didn't have enough space to sync everything. It would automatically create a playlist based on what albums you actually listened to. it was kind of nice.

LL - I have one playlist just for the iPod (I've got way more than 160gb on my hard drive), then a bunch of other playlists, you just sync em all.

frogbs, Thursday, 21 September 2017 17:53 (six years ago) link

so maybe LL can get a used or hand me down 128gb iphone 6

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 21 September 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link

thank you all very much for your tech support :)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 21 September 2017 18:10 (six years ago) link

Yeah, you can sync multiple playlists. Aside from my main playlist, I create smart playlists that automatically update to include all songs from the main list that I've rated 5 stars or "loved," or songs I've played fewer than say five times, etc. I really wish you could create smart playlists within the app on the phone. Sometimes I do miss the simplicity of the iPod interface and click wheel, but now that they've worked out most of what used to annoy me about music on the phone I don't know that I'd go back if I could.

early rejecter, Thursday, 21 September 2017 18:47 (six years ago) link

also for the buttons in pocket thing, most headphones now include commands for play, pause, skip, volume, so not really an issue anymore

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 21 September 2017 19:16 (six years ago) link

a lot of earbuds do but most over-ear and on-ear do not, right?

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 21 September 2017 19:28 (six years ago) link

old lunch and lechera, totally with you in this recent revive

Week of Wonders (Ross), Thursday, 21 September 2017 21:39 (six years ago) link

the shorting battery trick for the wall plug made me go mad when trying to revive my last ipod

Week of Wonders (Ross), Thursday, 21 September 2017 21:43 (six years ago) link

recently managed to revive mine and feel the same as everyone else here esp Old Lunch's "I understand that your kidney is giving out, how about we replace it with this beer can with a whistle glued to it" analogy

zero interest in streaming services

Οὖτις, Thursday, 21 September 2017 21:49 (six years ago) link

I figure I have at least another couple years with this one, but after that it's gonna be sadtimes I expect

Οὖτις, Thursday, 21 September 2017 21:50 (six years ago) link

Fine, okay, I will finally invest some time in figuring out how to get one of my handful of old iPod classics working and let y'all know when my new business is officially open.

Scott Staph (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 September 2017 22:57 (six years ago) link

now you're talking
you live in chi area iirc? don't be a stranger!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 21 September 2017 23:34 (six years ago) link

I figure I have at least another couple years with this one
don't drop it!
that's what happened to me everything was going well and then there was a collision with the sidewalk :(

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 21 September 2017 23:35 (six years ago) link

Gah, I finally had to break the glass a few months back on the emergency iPod I bought when they ceased production of the Classic, and I've already dropped the thing, what, 3? 4 times? Butter. Fingers.

(Yeah, I'm local, LL. I'm probably only like a mile away from you, iirc. I need to be occasionally reminded that people interact with one another outside of their homes and workplaces.)

Scott Staph (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 September 2017 02:28 (six years ago) link

i traded a coworker for her old ipod nano! this thread helped me get over some of my obsessive fear about this. i know the problem isn't going to go away, but at least i have a plan. yay!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 5 October 2017 19:07 (six years ago) link

People are selling unused 7th gen classics on ebay for like 200 uk pounds, seems reasonable to me

heaven parker (anagram), Thursday, 5 October 2017 19:23 (six years ago) link

The nano is a nice little imp. Of course its modest capacity will force you to sweat who comes on and off your library but that contest can be fun if you're not mentally ill in the way I am.

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 5 October 2017 19:40 (six years ago) link

it's not going to totally solve my problem -- how can i carry the collected works of ____ in my bag at all times just in case? -- but it will help for the time being

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 5 October 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link

Nanos are great, forces you to switch up your library and I find I actually listen to the same albums consistently. Whereas a 30 gb or more is too many options for me personally. I dunno I want to avoid ADD listening streaming trends, I've seen how it's affected my friends - they hardly even listen to a full album now

Week of Wonders (Ross), Thursday, 5 October 2017 19:49 (six years ago) link

I dunno, it's been super nice listening to hour after hour of Tara Jane O'Neil's discography today but it's also super nice knowing that that isn't my only option.

this is ridcolus (Old Lunch), Thursday, 5 October 2017 19:56 (six years ago) link

Fair enough, I totally get how it could be limiting

Week of Wonders (Ross), Thursday, 5 October 2017 21:21 (six years ago) link

the best thing to do with an ipod when you don't know what to listen to is just go to alphabetical list of songs, pick a good starting spot, and just let it go

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 5 October 2017 21:34 (six years ago) link

just as good as random + you get a funny list of song titles

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 5 October 2017 21:35 (six years ago) link

^^yes!

I gave in and bought an iPod Touch 128GB this week. While my 16GB phone works fine in the car - where I do most of my listening - sometimes the limited storage frustrated me. Started filling the Touch yesterday and after it felt like I'd put a lot on there's still 75GB of storage left!

willem, Friday, 6 October 2017 07:23 (six years ago) link

seven months pass...

ipod crapped out couple months back and now i'm a convert to iphone/itunes combo, which has made it a lot easier (take the plunge). little weird to play the entirety of an album tho, it tends to shuffle songs - anyone know how to turn that off?

Music is confidence (Ross), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 14:24 (five years ago) link

When you have something playing, go to the large album art playing screen (if you're not there, click on the small album art in the lower left corner) and scroll up. You'll see the shuffle and repeat buttons appear and you can turn shuffle off. If that's not the issue, only other thing I can think of is maybe your track # metadata is missing, which you can fix in iTunes. In my experience the tracks play in alphabetical order in that instance.

early rejecter, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:05 (five years ago) link

i absolutely hated my few months of trying to use my iphone as an itunes-driven music player

cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:06 (five years ago) link

Rejecter that fixed it! Cheers.

Yeah Jon the transition hasn’t been smooth

Music is confidence (Ross), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:29 (five years ago) link


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