I HATE APPLE

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It's a thing right now, sadly https://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/20/hackers-find-my-iphone-remote-mac-lock/

stet, Friday, 22 September 2017 19:51 (six years ago) link

I've got a genius appt for tmmrw to get it all sorted out (hopefully). What they should do is let you unlock it from iCloud.

Mordy, Friday, 22 September 2017 21:07 (six years ago) link

mordy i absolutely don't mean to rub anything in, just want to check: do you use two factor authentication?

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 22 September 2017 21:12 (six years ago) link

I wonder how many people are bitching about their secret porn stash app's camouflage being ruined by the new look of the Calculator app

El Tomboto, Friday, 22 September 2017 21:13 (six years ago) link

xpost it sounds like 2 factor does nothing to prevent this though?

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Friday, 22 September 2017 21:22 (six years ago) link

Yup, you're not asked to 2fa to remote lock a device on your apple account.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 22 September 2017 21:24 (six years ago) link

I do use it but it didn't help :(

Mordy, Friday, 22 September 2017 21:26 (six years ago) link

Solution: don't use iCloud?

calstars, Friday, 22 September 2017 21:53 (six years ago) link

oh shit, that's really bad, sorry for useless post

Solution: don't use iCloud?

― calstars, Saturday, 23 September 2017 07:53 (thirty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tricky, since a load of stock apps rely on icloud if you have 2+ apple devices and want to sync notes &c.

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 22 September 2017 22:36 (six years ago) link

i mean you can most likely do it if you rely on third party apps for everything that matters to you.

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 22 September 2017 22:37 (six years ago) link

This sounds scary. So the macrumors article is saying it only affects people who've used their iCloud password elsewhere, right?

Alba, Saturday, 23 September 2017 14:32 (six years ago) link

Also this from lifehacker:

We continued testing “Find My Device.” We found that “Find My iPhone” couldn’t lock an iPhone that already had passcode protection. But it could enable a new passcode on a phone that previously had none.

I'm curious if this was Mordy's situation.

calstars, Saturday, 23 September 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link

My phone already had a passcode which is likely why they were unable to lock it

Mordy, Saturday, 23 September 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link

1. Never not have a passcode
2. Never don't use 2FA
3. Never re-use your Apple ID password

El Tomboto, Saturday, 23 September 2017 16:41 (six years ago) link

Also sorry Mordy that sucks

El Tomboto, Saturday, 23 September 2017 16:51 (six years ago) link

not smug about this at all, and i can't imagine how i'd be freaking right now if this happened to me, but i never turned on "find my iphone" precisely because it seemed like an attack vector, to use the phrasey-ology, that would some day some way be exploited

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 23 September 2017 16:53 (six years ago) link

I dunno, I've lost iPhones and iPads & iPod touches to thefts & burglaries (ugh) and I was happy to be able to lock them remotely. You can put a message on the lost device so we put our phone number & a few months later with the iPads I got a text from Tunisia from someone who wanted me to send them the passcode for the device because they couldn't unlock it. L O L was our reply obv but I'm glad that no one else could use the devices.

droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 23 September 2017 16:57 (six years ago) link

I’m curious about how most people with a single email address handle apple’s policy of not letting the recovery email be the same as their appleid email

I woke up from a nap the other evening and had a half dozen recovery codes.... for my mom. When we set up her account I used my address because it was convenient, and that was how I discovered she has a new iPad!

I think it’s fine, I could probably have it sent to my dad’s email, but it was funny

mh, Saturday, 23 September 2017 19:39 (six years ago) link

I've turned Find My Mac off for the moment.

Alba, Saturday, 23 September 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link

You should be fine from this attack so long as both your Apple ID and recovery email account passwords are unique and secure. But eugh, it's time to leave passwords behind.

stet, Saturday, 23 September 2017 20:41 (six years ago) link

Any word about how long they take to fix this? Is it a fifteen minute kind of thing or am I going without my laptop for a day or two?

Mordy, Saturday, 23 September 2017 20:46 (six years ago) link

I think you'd have to go with whatever support says? I don't think anyone's reported back yet, but this is something where only they're going to know and afaik each person affected will have to call support, unless all of the requests came from one malicious person

mh, Saturday, 23 September 2017 22:00 (six years ago) link

Every review of the iPhone 8 is like , "it's a great phone, but who's it for?" What hogwash.

calstars, Friday, 29 September 2017 00:58 (six years ago) link

The sentiment is hogwash, or the phone is?

Nhex, Friday, 29 September 2017 01:29 (six years ago) link

It’s a reasonable incremental update and the majority of people treat phones as a commodity. Most will maybe get a new one when their carrier contract expires, and it’s a matter of having a thing you can do all the normal phone crap on, with a camera that’s better, maybe some tweaks

mh, Friday, 29 September 2017 01:53 (six years ago) link

have had to hard reset my SE like 4 times since updating to 11.0.1, what, less than 48 hours ago

Clay, Friday, 29 September 2017 04:43 (six years ago) link

have had to hard reset my SE like 4 times since updating to 11.0.1, what, less than 48 hours ago

i left my iphone 6 in aeroplane mode overnight and it lost 15% battery. this release is a mess.

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 29 September 2017 21:58 (six years ago) link

I HATE APPLE

calstars, Friday, 29 September 2017 23:12 (six years ago) link

aeroplane mode

I don't know why I find this funny

El Tomboto, Friday, 29 September 2017 23:15 (six years ago) link

My battery’s draining faster than a velocipede!!!

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Friday, 29 September 2017 23:19 (six years ago) link

Yah same

Spottie, Saturday, 30 September 2017 00:37 (six years ago) link

as incredibly good as this new apple watch is, siri still needs work. on the whole it’s the best it’s ever been by some distance, but the snarky responses get in the way of accessibility, e.g. when you ask what the time is (because sight impaired people would rely on questions like this) and it says “same time as it was yesterday hur dur”, and displays the time but doesn’t announce it. can’t believe they haven’t sorted this out.

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 30 September 2017 00:59 (six years ago) link

I've been ruined by Star Trek most assuredly, but the "processing" time for Siri always feels too slow to me

Nhex, Saturday, 30 September 2017 03:13 (six years ago) link

google’s much quicker so yeah

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 30 September 2017 03:42 (six years ago) link

"play my favourites"

"here's what I found about 'your favorites' on the internet"

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 30 September 2017 08:45 (six years ago) link

"Call goomah"
"Call mom?"

calstars, Saturday, 30 September 2017 11:26 (six years ago) link

watch out if you're managing external disks you might ever need to read from a non-high sierra mac https://mjtsai.com/blog/2017/09/29/unwanted-conversions-to-apfs/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 30 September 2017 18:51 (six years ago) link

Updated to 11.0.1, and battery life on my iPhone 7 Plus is improved...But just had the first complete frozen screen ever, and had to hard reset.

Luna Schlosser, Saturday, 30 September 2017 22:12 (six years ago) link

11.0.2 and my battery life is still a fucking disgrace

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 10:37 (six years ago) link

the question I have about the iPhone X is, does it make phone calls?

calstars, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 11:28 (six years ago) link

yes but only to high net-worth individuals

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 11:30 (six years ago) link

really not looking forward to a year of "actually it's pronounced iphone ten"

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 11:31 (six years ago) link

i have an iphone 6, my battery life has been poor for ages, doesn't seem any worse with this update, maybe I got lucky

akm, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 12:44 (six years ago) link

Hm, (my 5S) battery life definitely improved on 11.0.1, should I be careful updating to 11.0.2? (going by autumn almanac's post...)

willem, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 14:40 (six years ago) link

honestly i have no idea. i think my battery life was better in 11.0.1 than 11.0.2 (and 11.0) but not 100% sure. imo the more likely explanation is that many of the bugs are manifesting inconsistently across apparently identical devices, which potentially makes debugging/testing a total nightmare.

one curious bug that’s fucking me right off is when i reply to a text directly from the notification, and after typing 2–3 words the whole thing suddenly disappears. i’ve not read about this one anywhere so have no idea how many people are impacted by it.

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 23:58 (six years ago) link

far more app crashes under 11.0.2, definitely

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 5 October 2017 06:26 (six years ago) link

Thanks. I’ll wait for .3 to appear.

willem, Thursday, 5 October 2017 06:44 (six years ago) link

i had been putting off updating to 11, based on this thread, and awoke to find that my phone had updated itself automatically overnight (something it's never successfully done ever, even when i wanted it to)

gbx, Saturday, 7 October 2017 15:14 (six years ago) link

lol at single user console on a 15inch retina. it's like they've etched it on a grain of rice.

sktsh, Saturday, 7 October 2017 21:38 (six years ago) link


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