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it was cool to take messages without getting out my phone, and replying to the easy ones while i was fumbling for the lift. paying for groceries without going into my pockets was nice too. not indispensable so far though.

tracer: you can get proper music controls by swiping down for notifications, but so far i’ve found myself swiping up for control centre, going “agh shit”, swiping down to clear the control centre and swiping down again to get to the full controls. annoying.

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 25 September 2017 09:12 (six years ago) link

where i can see the watch being properly useful is when you’re waiting for a text/email but you don’t want to anxiously crane your neck into your phone every 30 seconds. the watch will tap you when the message comes in. for someone as fidgety as me it could make a real difference.

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 25 September 2017 09:16 (six years ago) link

xpost idgi. when i swipe down on lock screen nothing happens. if i unlock then swipe down i just get my notifications. in neither case do i get audio playback controls.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 25 September 2017 09:26 (six years ago) link

Not ideal I know, but just checking you know that if you do a long press on the audio controls they expand?

Alba, Monday, 25 September 2017 09:32 (six years ago) link

ha wow i did not know that!

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 25 September 2017 09:37 (six years ago) link

nice!

weird that i can see the music player in the notification centre but you can’t. i’ve no idea why.

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 25 September 2017 09:49 (six years ago) link

huh. i have an SE. maybe smaller screens don't get it.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 25 September 2017 10:07 (six years ago) link

Ah - while music is playing I get a nice full size player on the lock screen

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 25 September 2017 11:42 (six years ago) link

Teeny music controls on control centre now a lot more difficult to hit accurately

― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 25 September 2017 6:15 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Doesn’t matter if you have Bluetooth headphones as the controls don’t seem to work most of the time, on the headset or on control centre.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 25 September 2017 11:45 (six years ago) link

For the first time, I've started to get interested in the watch as a means of breaking free of my phone addiction. Curious to hear back from new users, esp. those not interested in the fitness/running stuff.

Seems like this is not the version for that. Battery life is terrible without a phone nearby to do the heavy lifting

stet, Monday, 25 September 2017 12:48 (six years ago) link

i’ve been playing with this watch a tonne tonight and it’s still on 73% battery

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 25 September 2017 12:59 (six years ago) link

stet: do you mean the lte version? many reasons i didn’t buy that version, battery life being just one

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 25 September 2017 13:00 (six years ago) link

Rumors already flying re next year:

https://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/25/apples-2018-iphone-lcd/

Which if true makes the iPhone 8 the last of its size for the future.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 September 2017 15:20 (six years ago) link

these are the ways in which ios 11 is shitting me on my iphone 6:

  • music judders regularly
  • this morning i couldn’t stream music at all until i changed the phone language
  • my watch tells me what my phone is playing five seconds before my phone ui can catch up
  • orientation lock randomly ignores me (i’ll lock my phone in locked portrait orientation, and when i unlock the phone it’s locked in landscape)
  • apps crash so frequently it’s like being on an android
  • just general lagginess across the board
currently vacillating between putting up with this for a year and getting an 8+ in nov/dec

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 07:55 (six years ago) link

So my wife should not bother updating her iPhone 6 then?

(And for the record, I switched from an iPhone to Android this year and have never had any apps crash on me)

groovypanda, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 08:20 (six years ago) link

So my wife should not bother updating her iPhone 6 then?

she should definitely definitely wait for a more stable release. this is beta quality.

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 08:28 (six years ago) link

on my SE I've noticed no problems fwiw

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 08:48 (six years ago) link

ditto

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 09:02 (six years ago) link

weird that the se is more immune than the 7, but that consistently seems to be the case

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 09:09 (six years ago) link

i thought you had a 6?

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 09:17 (six years ago) link

i do, but people with the 7 are feeling it too

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 09:24 (six years ago) link

e.g. veg grrrrl & nhex mentioned upthread that ios 11 is hitting their batteries

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 09:25 (six years ago) link

No issues on the 6 I updated, other than some general slowness, which was there already.

Jeff, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 09:50 (six years ago) link

Same here. A few orientation missteps and a some slow animations but overall not worse than iOS 10

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 10:55 (six years ago) link

i've had zero problems on 7 so far

mh, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 13:52 (six years ago) link

I am happy with my 8 so far although I'm still pissed about the headphone jack. I haven't looked, has anyone made a Lightning splitter?

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 13:55 (six years ago) link

(Would that even work? I haven't looked at any of the tech specs tbh)

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 13:55 (six years ago) link

Yeah, you can get splitters with two Lightning jacks or with a Lightning jack and standard headphone jack.

early rejecter, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 15:23 (six years ago) link

the iPhone dock has a headphone port and charge port. I have one at work because if I just have my phone plugged in, I'll screw around with it all the time

I've also used this sucker with a USB dac. Don't believe "camera adapter" terminology -- the newer devices support a handful of things via USB: https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MK0W2AM/A/lightning-to-usb-3-camera-adapter?fnode=97

You can connect the USB ethernet adapter to it and use an iPad with ethernet. Useful if you're somewhere with network ports in the room but wifi that requires stupid auth.

mh, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link

My 6 has been great on 11 except for increased battery drain and some slowness with launching Siri. They just released 11.0.1

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link

Is there no lightning-ready mini DAC on the market ?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link

though reviews for that one say it's not noticeably better than apples own adaptor

dan selzer, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 18:23 (six years ago) link

there are, but if you have any usb dac or sound card you can go ahead and just use that

fwiw the iPhone dock has the same chip as the adapter dongle, afaik

mh, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 18:55 (six years ago) link

11.0.1 has made quite the difference

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 08:46 (six years ago) link

Will try 11.0.1 tonight. 11 does appear to have impacted battery life on my SE, but I can't really tell if that might be down to (i) obsessively checking the Federer-Kyrgios score when I was in the park Sunday evening (it was basically an exhibition event!) and (ii) using it frequently as a *phone* due to impending house move requiring actual conversations. It's into the 20s by the time I get in from work, at 8:30pm or so, which is not great, considering how little I'm on it in the office.

On a contract with the SE until Jan 2019, so I hope this is resolved. 4s and 5s were well in their dotage(!) before they started having battery life issues. 4s still acceptable for the elder daughter, despite the hammering of YouTube. Really don't like the size of 6/7/8/X or the proposed 9 but I'll probably just fall into line with everyone else in a couple of years (me in 2010: "I will never need a smartphone"; me in 2012: "I have no interest in overpriced Apple crap").

High Sierra has had some odd effects on my 2014-ish MBP too. Keyboard just freezing after a few minutes of inactivity - unable to type in Notes, or Cmd+Tab to another app (getting "bonk" sound). Esc and re-entering password at lock screen solved it each time.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 09:24 (six years ago) link

yeah I think I'm gonna stay away from high sierra for some time.

droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 11:11 (six years ago) link

Hoping 11.0.1 does something about this awful battery situation. Wishing I'd avoided 11, hasn't given me much tbh

stet, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 11:27 (six years ago) link

too many 32bit apps on my computer to comfortably update to High Sierra yet. Some are fun little old apps that will probably never get updated, some are current essential tools that probably will eventually.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 12:04 (six years ago) link

I honestly don't know if I have any 32bit apps and I really should have made the effort to find out :/ Certainly my free battery health monitor has vanished from my menu bar.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 12:11 (six years ago) link

autumn of the hoonjadoonjas

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 12:14 (six years ago) link

32bit apps still run on High Sierra, but this is the last release that they'll run "without compromise". They're only dead on iOS 11 so far

stet, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 12:25 (six years ago) link

i used the (non-cellular) series 3 watch a lot more today: showed it to some people for a while, demonstrated apps, played with watch faces, replied to a heap of messages, controlled podcasts and music, set timers, asked siri to give me 45 minutes of driving directions. at 11 pm the battery’s on 72%. apparently i can’t kill even half the battery. i love the hell out of this thing.

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 12:56 (six years ago) link

I know it must be me but as always whenever there's a new iOS and OS update, everything's...perfectly fine. Odd glitch in Mail w/r/t links but other than that, *shrug* -- and battery life on the phone is fine.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 13:10 (six years ago) link

Ned and I apparently got the special version

mh, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 13:32 (six years ago) link

The battery in my new 8 is about a billion times better than my 6; similar usage pattern on the 6 where I'd be down to 20% by the end of the day has me around 75% on the 8.

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 14:58 (six years ago) link

soooomebody got an iPhone 8

mh, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 14:59 (six years ago) link

xpost part of that will be the new battery effect tho i think

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 15:44 (six years ago) link

I was on a relatively new 6, though; my original one tore through two batteries and they gave me a new one to replace it about 7-8 months ago.

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link

My 5s is still behaving just fine in speed and battery life, but I've been thinking about the inevitable upgrade. I was thinking about a 6, but it sounds like the SE is more reliable.

WilliamC, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 16:07 (six years ago) link


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