omg Teddy Roosevelt for president!

That was rumored aaaaages ago, sounded like the dumbest casting ever and no less so even as Leo has gotten puffier.

yes, but it is now "set" at Paramount

http://deadline.com/2017/09/leonardo-dicaprio-martin-scorsese-teddy-roosevelt-movie-paramount-1202177329/

I went to the TR Birthplace site on East 20th St in Manhattan yesterday, and didn't know til the tour started that the mansion is a replica! Original was razed around 1916. They have family furniture and relics in it though.

It just occurred to me after scanning through that it was this thread that inspired me to read the Morris biographies years ago. So thanks! I really must do that again sometime.

most overrated president ever

Overrated sure, but not most overrated He was bonkers and imperial, but he also really liked rattling cages and his reformist streak was legit if limited. Edith Wharton's favorite politician, with all that implies. I'm biased by Edmund Morris, I know, but he was a pretty unusual guy.

To quote my OP from 13 (!) years ago, "One of the chief factors in progress is the destruction of special privilege." Easier to say than do, but still he said it.

One of the best writer presidents, legit erudite, much more of statesman than the unhinged jingo of the 1910s, would have gotten the GOP nomination in 1920 and likely have won again. But a symbol of rebellion that didn't do much as prez except play president exquisitely well.

http://www.foundationsmag.com/tr-character.html

Not long ago two of the wealthiest men in the United States publicly committed themselves to the proposition that to go to college was a positive disadvantage for a young man who strove for success.

This essay could've been written today.

a symbol of rebellion that didn't do much as prez except play president exquisitely well

Yep, though that's a weakness of the system as much as the president. And playing the role well counts for something. (Or used to.) But sure, he was more big talk than big stick.

alfred -- surely TR is not overrated than wilson?

I'm pretty sure it was on another thread, or else on a link from another thread, where I recently read a quote from Alice Longworth, Teddy's daughter, who said TR wanted to be "the bride at every wedding and the corpse at every funeral."

omg Alice Longworth for president!

Teddy's statue in front of Nat Hist in NYC coming down, and i'm all for it, me the #1 genocidalist ilxor:

https://gothamist.com/arts-entertainment/controversial-theodore-roosevelt-statue-will-be-removed-american-museum-natural-historys-front-steps

If you blast him off Mt Rushmore tho, Reagan or Trump will replace him and you know it.

I thought removing a TR statue was a little extreme until I saw the actual statue and was like uh yeah that DEFINITELY needs to come down, jeez

Yup. I'm not sure the museum would be taking it down on its own if Roosevelt were the only figure it depicted.

i'm surprised it's lasted this long / i'm not surprised it's lasted this long

Jesus

still a lot of Great White Fathers around