2017 AL MVP

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it's linked to my mvp vote fuck if i'm gonna be on the wrong side of history

qualx, Friday, 29 September 2017 04:15 (six years ago) link

that's why i vote for future hall of famer jose altuve every year

qualx, Friday, 29 September 2017 04:15 (six years ago) link

Altuve reminds me of Ryne Sandberg, except probably better hitter. Sandberg's range seemed to me to be huge playing second watching him as a kid.

earlnash, Friday, 29 September 2017 04:17 (six years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 1 October 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link

i think judge has a chance

k3vin k., Sunday, 1 October 2017 03:51 (six years ago) link

i find in favor of Judge

nomar, Sunday, 1 October 2017 03:59 (six years ago) link

Altuve's MLB stats look like Ichiro's stats from Japan. He's like an upgraded version of Ichiro (at the plate at least)!

I don't have an issue with consistency counting for something in a close MVP race. I don't care when you have your best month -- April is no different from September -- but six great months counts for a bit more than four great months and two OK ones.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 1 October 2017 13:07 (six years ago) link

or the non-Yankee tiebreaker

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 1 October 2017 13:38 (six years ago) link

During the time that Correa was out--July 18 to Sept. 2--Altuve was at his best:

40 games, .384/.418/.597, 18 XBH, 7 HR

Houston was so far ahead at that point (15.5 up when Correa went down), you could say it's a moot point. In a close contest, I'd give that a little weight.

clemenza, Sunday, 1 October 2017 15:56 (six years ago) link

It's not his fault he played in a weak division/year with only four good teams in the entire league. I don't believe in added MVP value if your team wins by one game rather than 20.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 1 October 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link

My last sentence was ambiguous there; I meant that in a close MVP race, which this one is, I'd give Altuve a little extra credit for his excellence during Correa's absence.

clemenza, Sunday, 1 October 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link

Kluber 1.62 ERA from when he came back (June 1) until the end of the season - 23 starts.

timellison, Sunday, 1 October 2017 16:56 (six years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 2 October 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link

xpost to clem, OK I see your point but still don't agree!

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 2 October 2017 09:53 (six years ago) link

I hereby nickname you "The Death of Narrative."

clemenza, Monday, 2 October 2017 11:25 (six years ago) link

I like individual narratives as the tiebreaker in a close vote, like Stanton having a ridiculous 2nd half and chasing 60 HR. But team-based narratives are just that -- they're about the team, and shouldn't affect the voting for an individual award.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 2 October 2017 12:57 (six years ago) link

My A.L. ballot would go 1) Altuve, 2) Judge, 3) Kluber, 4) Trout, 5) Ramirez.

clemenza, Monday, 2 October 2017 13:26 (six years ago) link

Altuve ephemera from the internet:

At 5'6", Altuve is the shortest player in the majors since the 5'5" Freddie Patek, who retired after the 1981 season.

And at year's end, he may well become the shortest player to win the American League Most Valuable Player Award since the New York Yankees' 5'6" Phil Rizzuto in 1950.

This year he became the first player in history to lead either league outright in hits in four consecutive seasons, according to Elias Sports Bureau. And during his seven-year career, Altuve has more multihit games (358) than oh-fers (239).

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2735785-once-ignored-by-mlb-56-superstar-jose-altuve-may-now-be-its-mvp

clemenza, Friday, 6 October 2017 12:07 (six years ago) link

Alexi Amarista is also 5'6"!

timellison, Friday, 6 October 2017 23:32 (six years ago) link


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