Let us Anticipate "Call Me By Your Name"

I probably would've if they'd just called it Peach.

I think I let out an almost-involuntary "oh no" when I realized what was going to happen

Elio doesn't whine constantly before they fuck, right?

I keep reading conflicting reports about how much fucking Guadagnino films.

This is on shortlists for Oscar contention, so I'd assume there's probably very little there.

apparently so, unless James Ivory wrote tons of hardcore descriptive italics

Buggery scored to Satie

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i'll be seeing that from the 4th row

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oops:

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Well, it's real good. The kid shows great range, and the absence of the interior monologue that floods the book makes Elio seem as savvy and manipulative as he is awkward.

seein this this weekend

bring peaches?

Something about that scene bugged me more than the 'discreet' sex, but I don't want to say yet.

Armie said in the Q&A he was scared that he didn't have the chops for this. (He did.) Then someone asked Chalamet if he had similar anxieties. "No, because no one knows who I am."

awww

so Hammer was well cast then. I worried the casting might even be too on the nose.

T.C. will come out of this very well; he'd be on my best actor shortlist. And Guadagnino gazes appreciatively at him.

Hammer is not really my type, but when he came out on the stage... lemme say the camera doesn't do him justice.

sorry i lied, i'm seeing this on Thursday October 12th

Same. I think I can hold on till then.

i won't tell you what band Armie has his Ralph Fiennes moment to.

It's not Sufjan, who i guess might be on the Oscars next year.

I don't think I'll get to see it until November, but I'm looking forward. I loved the book.

There's a good discussion between Aciman and Tóibín from 2007 in which they talk a lot about Call Me By Your Name. (here)

I watch it tonight.

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I mean

I can't.

i won't tell you what band Armie has his Ralph Fiennes moment to.

splendid marimba part

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My excitement for this never really existed, but it's quickly dimming.

but that's been your mantra since 1980?

1979

meh, those pics don't do much for me... but they have good chemistry in the motion picture.

In (Fame) high school, Chalamet dated Madonna's daughter, so he may be gay.

Agree with Morbs: this was rather good and in some places excellent -- perhaps the best gay movie intended for a wide release Oscar crowd. I was relieved that Guardagino ditched the novel's lugubriousness: Ellio wants Oliver, and Chalamet's beautifully physical performance -- legs tossed over chairs, bare toes curled on stones, his eyes watching his parents' boredom with '80s Italian politics -- makes this clear.

Also, what is James Ivory complaining about? This was more explicit than I expected: shoulders getting gnawed, balls getting squeezed, foot massages. Even the peach scene, I realized, would not have worked as written in the novel -- the audience would have laughed it off the screen. The way Guardagino shoots it as a mix of shame and pleasure and relief after Oliver finds out is the film's most fully realized moment; I laughed out loud.

The dad's well-meaning, beautifully modulated monologue, to which Ivory added sentimental flourishes, came too late and was too I'm-ready-for-my-Oscar.

Excuse Spellcheck-corrected name mistakes.

I didn't realize this was being pitched as Oscarbait, but all that means is that I'd missed the Ivory connection until now. I'm not worried, though; all of your reviews (and others) have been encouraging, and it may actually play at a theatre near me now.

saw it this pm, thought it was just lovely

i thought this accomplished the feat of making subtle unspoken urges scream through the slightest cues; looks, postures, touches that last for a split second longer. also i thought it was generous to make the parents finding out about it not really a center of drama, even if it involved making them implausibly progressive (i mean, who knows, maybe there were 80s archeology profs perfectly unbothered by their post-docs sleeping with their teenage sons?) so that the focus could be on the romance

James Ivory is complaining?

I didn't see any added sentimentality in the dad speech, except they changed the answer to "Does Mom know?" (I don't think everyone even agrees about the object of the question)

there were a few other moments of ambiguity too ya, on the busride home my friends and i couldn't agree on some

in the novel Alfred says Armie Hammer (also lol at them casting the waspiest looking mf ever for this part) character is 24 years old. but in the film he looks early thirties, no?

oh u know what the one thing i didn't care for in this was? the Sufjan Stevens songs

There's no hiding Hammer's age; when he's shot from the bottom up he looks 29 or 30.

Dad quoted Montaigne and has spent his life looking at statues and reading Greek poetry. One of the bits the film gets that the novel doesn't (as I read it) is how Dad and Oliver understand and have absorbed Greek conceptions of sexuality: fool around in your youth, even love another man, but you're gonna get married eventually.

I was impressed with how the peach scene becomes the point at which Elio's shame but increasing sexual confidence collide against Oliver's jollity.

Yeah this was just exquisite, all the performances were great but Chalamet is just stunning. Peach scene alone deserves several oscars.

a bit fruity

I believe none of you.

I don't even know if you've seen it.

I haven't. And even though Morbs was right about The King of Comedy ... that had Jerry Lewis.

The adjectives everyone's using on this one are a little too creamy.

A milkshake?

uhm... I was virtually destroyed by this and almost left the cinema after the train station scene out of fear that i would start sobbing loudly (rather than just have some wet eyes). I mean i am a cryer but jesus...

i'll write a bit more in time. overwhelmed.

I honestly thought that another incredible gay love story, God's Own Country, wouldn't be surpassed this year but wow.

Has GOC been released outside of the UK?

I saw the last 40 minutes again last Saturday, whispering whenI saw Elio LORD SOTOSYN LORD SOTOSYN LORD SOTOSYN

I was sure this revive would be for

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hey guys once again I'm six months late to a buzzworthy film!

this wasn't badly made or poorly acted or offensive or anything but I did find it fairly dull. the classical Greek sculpture backdrop seemed very DO U SEE and the general arc of their relationship made me wonder if the structure of escalating sexual tension > dramatic consummation > dissappointment/betrayal (also evident in Y Tu Mama Tambien and Brokeback Mountain and probably some others I can't recall right now) is turning into some kind of cliche'd template for gay love stories in these kind of "prestige" pictures.

Y Tu Mamá También is a gay love story?

in the sense that ppl seemed to get *really* wound up about the buildup to TWO GUYS KISSING ON-SCREEN yeah, it was treated as such imo

I didn't really like it either tbf

I admit I'm hard-pressed to think of a depiction of a gay couple in a nominally mainstream film that I find at all engaging. comedies and weirder stuff (Fassbinder's "Fox and Friends" etc), sure

Gay relationships do admittedly lend themselves to comedy and weirder stuff, tbh.

lol

now that I think about it, most dramas that focus on the minutiae of a hetero couple's relationship bore me too. maybe I just hate ppl lol. but there always has to be something *else* going on beyond "omg when are they going to have hot sex" to maintain my interest.

shakey have you come around on Fassbinder?

I have always been a fan of certain things of Fassbinder's! def not all of it, he can get p tiresome

ah gotcha. yeah I like Fassbinder but have only seen like 13 of his movies, like most of them a lot, but I don't hold any of them dear. except maybe The Merchant of Four Seasons. too brutal and hopeless. I was just reading this thread last night, some really great discussion about Fassbinder's work being "horizontal" - no underbelly, no success, everyone is equally fucked. Tarkovsky otoh I worship

I think 'escalating sexual tension > dramatic consummation > disappointment/betrayal' is a dramatic arc of most love stories, gay or straight

there has to be something after that though.....some kind of growth, understanding

that kind of story line never gets old for me

*storyline

Dan S otm, any love story that doesn't follow that structure is usually a comedy

and not a courtship of mine (retired)

my problem with this movie is that the first hour, before the dance around the memorial, could have been pared down to around 10 minutes. i get the structure of these and the first act doesn't need to be so drawn out.

yeah i remember finding this pretty but way too long. but i am also a straight.

any love story that doesn't follow that structure is usually a comedy

yeah I guess that's true. Last Tango in Paris fits, for ex. Not a story form for me, I guess.

yeah but wouldn't you fuck Timothee Chalamet, comedy or not?

maybe I'm just old but I'm past the point of getting any enjoyment out of films based on the relative attractiveness of the ppl onscreen

I guess it's happening.

The director has offered an update on his plans for the next chapter in Elio and Oliver's life. Speaking to Italian outlet Bad Taste (translation via The Playlist), Guadagnino revealed that the opening shot of the sequel will mirror the final shot of Call Me By Your Name, which ended with Elio crying while staring into a fireplace. This time, Guadagnino said, Elio will be crying while watching a movie instead:

"I’m asking myself if in the new chapter of the life of Elio, Oliver and the Perlman family we should let them pass by Crema or not… but I don’t think so. Let’s give a small scoop: the sequel (but I don’t like to call it a sequel, their story is a ‘cycle’) will take place in Paris. And it begins with Elio crying. With this light shining into his eyes… and we wonder: are we still where we left him (in front of the fireplace)? No: he’s crying because he’s watching the ending of one of the best movies of the eighties, Paul Vecchiali’s masterpiece ‘Once More'. Absolutely consistent with the character: Elio loves Paul Vecchiali’s cinema… that is melancholic like him."

And...

André Aciman has revealed that he is writing a sequel to his bestselling novel Call Me By Your Name, which was adapted into an Oscar-winning film starring Timothée Chalamet and Armie Hammer.

A coming-of-age story detailing the poignant summer romance between teenager Elio and the slightly older Oliver, a graduate student who visits Elio’s family home in Italy, Aciman’s 2007 novel was adapted into a film last year. While the film ends with the pair still young, the novel gives a glimpse into Elio and Oliver’s future, showing a meeting between the lovers 20 years after their short affair.

Aciman revealed on Tuesday that readers would soon be given further insight into how the characters’ lives develop. “I would actually love a sequel to Call Me By Your Name. In fact I am writing one,” he tweeted.

The film’s director Luca Guadagnino has already been clear about his plans to follow the story with a series of sequels. “The novel has 40 pages at the end that goes through the next 20 years of the lives of Elio and Oliver, so there is some sort of indication through the intention of [the author] that the story can continue,” he told the Hollywood Reporter earlier this year. “In my opinion, Call Me can be the first chapter of the chronicles of the life of these people that we met in this movie, and if the first one is a story of coming of age and becoming a young man, maybe the next chapter will be, what is the position of the young man in the world, what does he want – and what is left a few years later of such an emotional punch that made him who he is?”

Oh

The Elio Crying Cycle

hmmmm

don't think I'd watch or read any of them, but good luck to both

The novel sequel?

It fucking sucks.

Extremely unsavoury, to put it mildly. I made it two episodes in. Apparently, in later episodes the 14 yo protagonist has sex with the soldier who flashes his cock to him in episode one.

Oh shit, sorry, I thought you were talking about Guadagnino's HBO/BBC series called We Are Who We Are. Which is fucking terrible.

hahahaha

No -- the sequel to CMBYN.

both extremely bad then.

I only read Enigma Variations, it was not very good, but liked CMBYN the film

I haven’t seen We Are Who We Are, but Tom Mercier’s cock is awesome