often annoying, but he's not always wrong (except about hockey)
this was otm
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump
― mookieproof, Sunday, 1 October 2017 02:56 (six years ago) link
I find that there are very few New Yorker writers distinctive enough to be especially irritating. I've probably read dozens of Adam Gopnik pieces and I couldn't tell you a single thing about his writing.
― JRN, Sunday, 1 October 2017 04:19 (six years ago) link
heroic detachment ftw
― mookieproof, Sunday, 1 October 2017 04:23 (six years ago) link
Adam Gopkin said 9/11 Manhattan smelled like Mozarella cheese. That's what I remember about him.
― carpet_kaiser, Sunday, 1 October 2017 04:27 (six years ago) link
That is inaccurate btw
― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 1 October 2017 04:41 (six years ago) link
France, the 70s, young man older woman, just making my way through it now.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1971/06/26/immortal-gatito?mbid=social_twitter
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 November 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link
^^ I've seen the film, but will def make time to read that tonight, thanks
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 23 November 2017 18:05 (six years ago) link
Just stepped on that by accident and this is something else (certainly by New Yorker standards). Mavis Gallant is looking at every action and utterance from about five different angles.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 November 2017 23:16 (six years ago) link
https://twitter.com/MenCatPerson
― Number None, Monday, 11 December 2017 12:31 (six years ago) link
is it supposed to be good or funny that someone is spending their time finding idiotic tweets by morons or perhaps bigots or actual deep misogynists and sharing them?
what do we learn from this?
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 11 December 2017 13:43 (six years ago) link
Someone saw these tweets, was maddened enough to start one as you can do it for free.
When idiocy and bogotry are read aloud its great because you don't actually need to argue anything, just read it back to the person doing it - that's the effect that account has.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 11 December 2017 13:57 (six years ago) link
yeah no doubt the men who posted are following it and changing their ways
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 11 December 2017 14:00 (six years ago) link
i don't even think it has to be anything other than funny but many of them aren't even funny, just the stupid, badly expressed opinions of dullards.
i suppose some people doubt that these dullards exist or something, but again, i doubt they are following this.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 11 December 2017 14:01 (six years ago) link
i think this is seriously one of the most naive things i've ever read on ilx
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 11 December 2017 14:02 (six years ago) link
They will never get to see it, but it might stop some ppl.
Ultimately its not meant to teach ppl anything, that was someone maddened by online. And who could blame them?
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 11 December 2017 14:03 (six years ago) link
xp - its not about changing hearts and minds btw. Its war!
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 11 December 2017 14:04 (six years ago) link
hearts and minds are not changed on twitter
― Simon H., Monday, 11 December 2017 14:05 (six years ago) link
One aspect of modern fandom is to publicize the worst examples of humanity who don't like what you are a fan of, in order to shame others out of criticizing it. (Cat Person was a competently written story and went viral due to its being relatable to people I am lucky enough not to be one of.)
― Three Word Username, Monday, 11 December 2017 14:06 (six years ago) link
sometimes it takes a long ass time to figure out why some tweet is posted in a particular thread
― President Keyes, Monday, 11 December 2017 14:08 (six years ago) link
One aspect of modern fandom liberalism is to publicize the worst examples of humanity
fixed it for you
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 11 December 2017 14:30 (six years ago) link
ITT: men react to men reacting to Cat Person
― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Monday, 11 December 2017 14:58 (six years ago) link
Those tweets should be added to the story.
― Yerac, Monday, 11 December 2017 15:07 (six years ago) link
someone on twitter had a very good thread yesterday reiterating that Cat Person is a SHORT STORY not a memoir or essay or thinkpiece, and should be assessed accordingly. relating to characters and their experiences is of course fine, but judging the merit of the story on the rightness or wrongness of the characters' actions is really really dumb. ftr I don't think the New Yorker really did itself or the author much of a favor by publishing an accompanying interview with her about it. not that the author should have to relinquish all authority but maybe let the work speak for itself for at least a little while first.
― evol j, Monday, 11 December 2017 15:13 (six years ago) link
re: that reaction twitter. It seems more like cathartic mockery of the idea that sjws are the only ones who get "triggered" to me. I don't think anyone expects it to change minds.
― rob, Monday, 11 December 2017 15:19 (six years ago) link
men react to men reacting to men reacting to cat person.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 11 December 2017 15:56 (six years ago) link
http://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2016-08/4/14/asset/buzzfeed-prod-fastlane01/sub-buzz-21442-1470337110-6.jpg
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 11 December 2017 15:57 (six years ago) link
I hate cats, and I hate hot takes or hot takes about other fucking people's hot takes. So I'm going to remain blissfully ignorant about whatever the fuck Cat Person is, and not feel like I'm missing out on some enlightenment or fun.
― calzino, Monday, 11 December 2017 15:59 (six years ago) link
it's mostly about putting out fires with gasoline, iirc
― voodoo chili, Monday, 11 December 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link
It's actually a very good short story!
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 11 December 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link
it's almost insane to which the speed that Twitter chews things up and spits them out, waves of backlash and backlash to the backlash and backlash to the backlash to the backlash and memeifying the whole thing in 24 hours after it's publishedlike how could anything even exist as a piece of writing or art anymore?
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 11 December 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link
30 years ago you could kick a piece of art down the street
― marcos, Monday, 11 December 2017 16:28 (six years ago) link
Most fiction writing is safely ignored. It's pretty rare that a piece of short fiction goes viral like this; actually, I can't recall the last time this happened.
― Simon H., Monday, 11 December 2017 16:28 (six years ago) link
lol marcos
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 11 December 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link
love too laugh at people online
― k3vin k., Monday, 11 December 2017 17:49 (six years ago) link
The story was surprisingly graphic. I didn't realize the NYer published fiction that explicit.
For what it's worth, I found the story truthful and interesting. Reminded me of Dan Clowes.
― dinnerboat, Monday, 11 December 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link
the edge of indie miserabilia was the worst part that's true
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 December 2017 20:08 (six years ago) link
The NYer almost always publishes an interview online with their short fiction writer of the week, so this was not unusual. People just usually don't care.
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 06:41 (six years ago) link
the china selfie meitu app article in this weeks is m/l terrifying
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 14:38 (six years ago) link
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/01/08/my-fathers-body-at-rest-and-in-motion
Enjoyed this piece quite a bit. Something about the calm tone that makes it a warm bath to ease into, despite the subject matter.
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 13:16 (six years ago) link
tw suicide
good piece
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2003/10/13/jumpers
― Mordy, Thursday, 4 January 2018 20:15 (six years ago) link
That Mukherjee piece is great. Thanks. xp
― o. nate, Friday, 5 January 2018 03:20 (six years ago) link
The Osnos piece on China.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 January 2018 03:37 (six years ago) link
enjoyed that — my first attempt at an audio article!
― k3vin k., Friday, 5 January 2018 20:36 (six years ago) link
The article on the brain-dead girl is grim and unsettling, but in an engrossing way.
― o. nate, Thursday, 1 February 2018 03:25 (six years ago) link
yeah I have that bookmarked, looking forward to reading
― k3vin k., Thursday, 1 February 2018 04:33 (six years ago) link
New Grann alert
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/02/12/the-white-darkness
― Number None, Friday, 9 February 2018 01:20 (six years ago) link
A nice long Grann survivalists-in-harsh-conditions story is just a balm for my soul.
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 9 February 2018 01:41 (six years ago) link
the accompanying images and maps are really amazing
― Karl Malone, Friday, 9 February 2018 01:50 (six years ago) link
The Grann piece was fun but he did not read as a hero or explorer to me, just a dude doing exactly what he wanted to do for his own ego (lol @ the idea that he was actually making that last expedition to raise $100k for charity) and making bad decisions. It made me really relish being indoors though.
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 17:19 (six years ago) link
i didn't love the grann piece tbh, it was boring and overlong. mostly i enjoyed the details about the sick shit that happens to your mind and body in that situation.
― na (NA), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 17:30 (six years ago) link