It's not his fault he played in a weak division/year with only four good teams in the entire league. I don't believe in added MVP value if your team wins by one game rather than 20.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 1 October 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link
My last sentence was ambiguous there; I meant that in a close MVP race, which this one is, I'd give Altuve a little extra credit for his excellence during Correa's absence.
― clemenza, Sunday, 1 October 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link
Kluber 1.62 ERA from when he came back (June 1) until the end of the season - 23 starts.
― timellison, Sunday, 1 October 2017 16:56 (six years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Monday, 2 October 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link
xpost to clem, OK I see your point but still don't agree!
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 2 October 2017 09:53 (six years ago) link
I hereby nickname you "The Death of Narrative."
― clemenza, Monday, 2 October 2017 11:25 (six years ago) link
I like individual narratives as the tiebreaker in a close vote, like Stanton having a ridiculous 2nd half and chasing 60 HR. But team-based narratives are just that -- they're about the team, and shouldn't affect the voting for an individual award.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 2 October 2017 12:57 (six years ago) link
My A.L. ballot would go 1) Altuve, 2) Judge, 3) Kluber, 4) Trout, 5) Ramirez.
― clemenza, Monday, 2 October 2017 13:26 (six years ago) link
Altuve ephemera from the internet:
At 5'6", Altuve is the shortest player in the majors since the 5'5" Freddie Patek, who retired after the 1981 season.
And at year's end, he may well become the shortest player to win the American League Most Valuable Player Award since the New York Yankees' 5'6" Phil Rizzuto in 1950.
This year he became the first player in history to lead either league outright in hits in four consecutive seasons, according to Elias Sports Bureau. And during his seven-year career, Altuve has more multihit games (358) than oh-fers (239).
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2735785-once-ignored-by-mlb-56-superstar-jose-altuve-may-now-be-its-mvp
― clemenza, Friday, 6 October 2017 12:07 (six years ago) link
Alexi Amarista is also 5'6"!
― timellison, Friday, 6 October 2017 23:32 (six years ago) link