Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

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the filipino girlfriend

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 2 October 2017 14:06 (six years ago) link

who police have already determined was not involved

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 2 October 2017 14:06 (six years ago) link

idk maybe I'm wrong, it's just that the first two news articles I opened this morning had huge pictures of Marilou Danley prominently featured

Erotic Wolf (crüt), Monday, 2 October 2017 14:08 (six years ago) link

you're not wrong crut

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 2 October 2017 14:13 (six years ago) link

I get why this happened under Obama but Trump's not exactly a threat to pass any gun legislation so I don't get why stocks are going up

frogbs, Monday, 2 October 2017 14:13 (six years ago) link

Because more people will feel threatened now? "Boy if it can happen in Vegas, makes u think"?

I've no clue. USA gun stuff is a mystery to me.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 2 October 2017 14:16 (six years ago) link

i’m pretty sure my dad is ok but i haven’t checked in yet bc he’s a nra member and my anger is for the moment outweighing my worry

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 2 October 2017 14:16 (six years ago) link

people buy guns and ammo after events like this. climate of fear = good for gun sales

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 2 October 2017 14:16 (six years ago) link

anytime this happens it’s the fucking worst obviously but it happening in my hometown is really fucking me up (everyone i know is, afaik, safe)

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 2 October 2017 14:18 (six years ago) link

IsLOLmic State claiming responsibility.

The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Monday, 2 October 2017 14:18 (six years ago) link

1) BREAKING: #ISIS' Amaq claims #LasVegas shooting. Surprising as it sounds, statement issued on legit primary source. https://t.co/nh8zuEPP3N

— Rita Katz (@Rita_Katz) October 2, 2017

xp beat me to it

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 2 October 2017 14:20 (six years ago) link

My brother is out there right now w his wife he was at the MGM Grand at the time and they were on lock down until 4am. They are safe but understandably shaken up.

Legislation is about as likely as cutting defence spending look at our "more divided than ever" two party system setting a shit example at the top w infinite blank checks.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 2 October 2017 14:21 (six years ago) link

xp fuuuuuuuuuck

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 2 October 2017 14:22 (six years ago) link

Not awaiting the Alex Jones hot take.

Eazy, Monday, 2 October 2017 14:24 (six years ago) link

don't they take credit for everything though

frogbs, Monday, 2 October 2017 14:25 (six years ago) link

Literally every single human being on planet earth pic.twitter.com/AwpOuEINi4

— (((MattSteinglass))) (@mattsteinglass) October 2, 2017

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 2 October 2017 14:27 (six years ago) link

xp Surprisingly they don't! Though they've had some wrong claims in recent months.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 2 October 2017 14:27 (six years ago) link

people buy guns and ammo after events like this. climate of fear = good for gun sales

Specifically, people who already own guns and ammo break out the credit cards and buy more, because no matter who the president is or who is in congress, they know what's coming, any day now. This is a minority of citizens, hopefully that's obvious, but the spike in demand is predictable enough that if you're an institutional investment manager who isn't restricted from trading in guns and ammo stock then it would be irresponsible not to

El Tomboto, Monday, 2 October 2017 14:35 (six years ago) link

UPDATE: Senior U.S. officials say no evidence Vegas shooter was connected to international militant group after ISIS claims responsibility

— Reuters U.S. News (@ReutersUS) October 2, 2017

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 October 2017 14:45 (six years ago) link

Barely anyone remembers what the ATF is supposed to do anymore, and the FBI & DHS aren't likely to spend time on this unless there's some genuine international nexus. I bet there are some analysts who got spun up after that ISIS tweet for 30 minutes or so. This is just going to be a LVPD issue, like every other one of these that isn't San Bernardino or Boston.

We're fucking useless.

El Tomboto, Monday, 2 October 2017 14:49 (six years ago) link

dipshit is about to make a speech

Karl Malone, Monday, 2 October 2017 14:50 (six years ago) link

The fact they're so sure there's no connection with ISIS suggests they know the motive.

The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Monday, 2 October 2017 14:51 (six years ago) link

Killer's brother on TV saying no religious or political motives he'd know of.

nashwan, Monday, 2 October 2017 14:55 (six years ago) link

reminder that one of Trump's first acts in office was to make it easier for mentally ill people to buy guns

frogbs, Monday, 2 October 2017 14:56 (six years ago) link

to-do:

gun control legislation (out of the question)
thoughts
prayers

Karl Malone, Monday, 2 October 2017 15:03 (six years ago) link

fwiw here is a list of the directors of the ATF since 2004

  • 2004 Edgar A. Domenech (1st time—acting)
  • 2004–2006 Carl Truscott
  • 2006 Edgar A. Domenech (2nd time—acting)
  • 2006–2009 Michael Sullivan (acting)
  • 2009 Ronald "Ronnie" A. Carter (acting)
  • 2009–2011 Kenneth E. Melson (acting)
  • 2011–2015 B. Todd Jones
  • 2015– Thomas Brandon (acting)
sad lols, B. Todd Jones is now the "Chief Disciplinary Officer" for the NFL

El Tomboto, Monday, 2 October 2017 15:06 (six years ago) link

maybe a nationwide ban of hotel balconies

Evan, Monday, 2 October 2017 15:06 (six years ago) link

what will be awesome is if/when Nevada tries to pass stronger gun legislation at the state level and then Congress passes a law to supersede it - because States' Rights only count when our donors want them to

El Tomboto, Monday, 2 October 2017 15:08 (six years ago) link

Two of my high school friends had family in the orbit of this; one's mother was in New York New York at the time of the shooting and the other's husband was working at this event (he and his coworkers are okay).

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Monday, 2 October 2017 15:18 (six years ago) link

Las Vegas is the 273rd mass shooting (4+ people shot) in America this year. We're 273 days into the year https://t.co/7kljZd3J0Y

— Mike Rosenberg (@ByRosenberg) October 2, 2017

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 October 2017 15:28 (six years ago) link

what absolute horror https://t.co/V0ZY4MViPx pic.twitter.com/XprKnb8D9X

— Alex Press (@alexnpress) October 2, 2017

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 2 October 2017 15:29 (six years ago) link

We have cnn on mute in the office I'm in today and the faces of some of the people they've interviewed (random survivor guy, the shooter's brother) look high, drunk, and confused. Like the proper facial expression doesn't exist for this so they're just unconsciously mugging while they attempt to make sense of it on camera.

El Tomboto, Monday, 2 October 2017 15:45 (six years ago) link

reminder that one of Trump's first acts in office was to make it easier for mentally ill people to buy guns

― frogbs, Monday, October 2, 2017 9:56 AM (fifty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

reminder that keeping registries of "mentally ill" people is fucking odious

gbx, Monday, 2 October 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link

I'm so tired of seeing the "we need better mental healthcare" dodge. None of these people would actually support expanded mental healthcare services so just fuck off.

I mean you're talking about expanded government programs, what the fuck else does "better mental healthcare" mean?

i went to bed last night with the first reports rolling in and decided to sleep through the initial inaccurate reports, hoping to wake up to better news than this. it makes me ill. the other week i was thinking about waking up to the news from Orlando, and thinking how the worst part of the current culture is that someone would inevitably perpetrate a worse attack someday.

also:

Police said they had no information about Paddock's motive, that he had no criminal record and was not believed to be connected to any militant group. Paddock killed himself before police entered the hotel room he was firing from, Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo told reporters.

"We have no idea what his belief system was," Lombardo said.

Two senior U.S. government officials told Reuters that Paddock's name was not on any database of suspected terrorists and that there was no evidence linking him to any international militant group.

One of the two U.S. officials discounted a claim of responsibility that was made by Islamic State. There was reason to believe that Paddock had a history of psychological problems, the official said.

...

Lombardo said there were more than 10 rifles in the room where Paddock killed himself. He had checked into the hotel on Thursday.

people can pretend they can keep track of things and crack down but you never can, someone always slips through any loopholes and the shooter is always someone you never thought was capable of such a thing.

nomar, Monday, 2 October 2017 15:57 (six years ago) link

The interviews with his brother have been heartbreaking. Totally in shock, never imagined something like this happening. Hope facts come out soon.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link

https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/yourimage-261-e1506945523361.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&w=338&strip=all

there's no test to figure out who can do this shit, they just need hidden resentment and a complete breakdown and access to completely legal weaponry.

nomar, Monday, 2 October 2017 16:03 (six years ago) link

OTMFM

I've had enough imagination. I mentally hold my breath whenever my sister's family goes to Disney World.

xxp

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 October 2017 16:04 (six years ago) link

this is the price we appear to be willing to pay to keep our current interpretation of the second amendment

i can't really compute that, but apparently many have and are fine with it

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 2 October 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link

now they're saying 58 dead

nomar, Monday, 2 October 2017 16:10 (six years ago) link

i cant begin to imagine the horror of that scene - with him firing from so high above there’s nowhere to hide. just...my god

i cant watch the videos, i wont, but the few photos I’ve seen were beyond heartbreaking

horrific

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 October 2017 16:11 (six years ago) link

with 400 wounded/injured there's a good chance the death toll rises further, unfortunately

500 injured

brownie, Monday, 2 October 2017 16:13 (six years ago) link

aaannnd we have yet another fucking spree shooting. Great: http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2017/10/americas-first-mass-shooting-since-vegas

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 October 2017 16:35 (six years ago) link

jesus. what's it gonna take.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 2 October 2017 16:40 (six years ago) link

http://www.thoughtsandprayersthegame.com/

Karl Malone, Monday, 2 October 2017 16:41 (six years ago) link


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