this shooting is actually an incident that gives lie to the notion that "if only someone in the crowd had a gun this could have been prevented," as if that notion is anything other that complete bullshit in any situation like this.
― nomar, Monday, 2 October 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link
Guitarist for the Josh Abbott Band, who performed last night.
pic.twitter.com/0NFjHf3PW2— Caleb Keeter (@Calebkeeter) October 2, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 October 2017 17:06 (six years ago) link
That being said, I'll not live in fear of anyone. We will regroup, we'll come back, and we'll rock your fucking faces off. Bet on it.— Caleb Keeter (@Calebkeeter) October 2, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 October 2017 17:07 (six years ago) link
xpost if Sandy Hook didn't do it, nothing will. notice, of course, how of all the shootings the one that would elicit the most sympathy for the anti-gun cause is the one that draws in the most "it never happened" or "it was a false flag" arguments.
― nomar, Monday, 2 October 2017 17:07 (six years ago) link
Any chance of efficacious action wrt gun control was dead after the non-response to Sandy Hook and it was buried with the election of Trump. I think we'll probably still have lots of good and impassioned conversation about it, though, alongside the requisite hopes and prayers. Won't somebody please think of the pundits.
― this is ridcolus (Old Lunch), Monday, 2 October 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link
I wrote that before I saw a mention of Sandy Hook. Clearly that's the agreed upon point where hope died.
― this is ridcolus (Old Lunch), Monday, 2 October 2017 17:09 (six years ago) link
notice, of course, how of all the shootings the one that would elicit the most sympathy for the anti-gun cause is the one that draws in the most "it never happened" or "it was a false flag" arguments.
― nomar, Monday, October 2, 2017 1:07 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
that's a really great point, I never thought about it like that.
― flappy bird, Monday, 2 October 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link
How about a million people sitting outside the NRA HQ this weekend for as start?
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 October 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link
blow up the gun factories and their machines.
― ian, Monday, 2 October 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link
somebody offers a deep thoughts:
When people say enough with thoughts and prayers they're just saying they don't believe in God and neither should you.— John Podhoretz (@jpodhoretz) October 2, 2017
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 October 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link
Podho should find out right now if there is one
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 October 2017 17:46 (six years ago) link
pic.twitter.com/2Uns7nMLKW— chris jones¯_(ツ)_/¯ (@LONG_DRIVE) October 2, 2017
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 2 October 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link
Subsequent events have proven that (NRA spokesman) LaPierre had the right of things and that William Lloyd Garrison and Robert Jackson were wrong. The Constitution is not a pact with the devil, nor is it a suicide pact. It is a formalized, legalistic ritual of blood sacrifice. There are some things that we as a society, alas, must tolerate in order to stay true to our founding beliefs and to remain free. Schoolchildren shot to pieces is one of those things. The massacre of country music fans is another one of those things, the 273rd blood sacrifice to that one provision of the Constitution this year.
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a12764429/las-vegas-shooting-result/
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 October 2017 18:25 (six years ago) link
and given that it's a white guy, the false flag narratives have already begun
The creator of Dilbert is spreading a rumor that Stephen Paddock's brother might be a crisis actor pic.twitter.com/idhiiMuz5r— Ryan Broderick (@broderick) October 2, 2017
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 2 October 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link
What the fuck is the logic in this. it's a false flag bc it's a white guy w/ no clear political/radical/terrorist bent?
― flappy bird, Monday, 2 October 2017 18:37 (six years ago) link
isn't Dildo a Logic Master?
was he always so batshit? what happened to him?
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 2 October 2017 18:38 (six years ago) link
I recommend tracking down that longform profile of him from a few months back
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 2 October 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link
it's a false flag bc it's a white guy w/ no clear political/radical/terrorist bent?
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 2 October 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link
was he always so batshit?
Having bought and read "The Dilbert Future" when it was published, I can say the answer to this is "yes".
― Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Monday, 2 October 2017 18:45 (six years ago) link
Well that crowd was pretty psyched when the "Bernie Bro shooter" happenedxp
― flappy bird, Monday, 2 October 2017 18:45 (six years ago) link
Should we still ignore Alex Jones who has his batshit false flag shenanigans lined up already? He was thanked by The President after the latter's election tbf.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 2 October 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link
yea he's always been pretty nuts but this deep dive into MRA/Alex Jones territory seems to be a somewhat recent development
― frogbs, Monday, 2 October 2017 18:47 (six years ago) link
If you've got a looney prez who surrounds himself with loons like that, idk
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 2 October 2017 18:48 (six years ago) link
creating a safe space for unfeeling red pilled white males since 1996
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 2 October 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link
to be fair I have no idea what Dilbro is getting at there and tbh I don't think he does either
― frogbs, Monday, 2 October 2017 18:51 (six years ago) link
Always, always, always ignore Alex Jones.
― this is ridcolus (Old Lunch), Monday, 2 October 2017 18:56 (six years ago) link
I don't even think he has the 'stopped clock' thing going for him.
― this is ridcolus (Old Lunch), Monday, 2 October 2017 18:57 (six years ago) link
Crisis actor expert @ScottAdamsSays will be on Fox News later tonight to discuss.
I can't even deal with this.
― "Celebration" encourages the listener to celebrate good times. (Dan Peterson), Monday, 2 October 2017 18:58 (six years ago) link
he was good in Waking Life lol
― flappy bird, Monday, 2 October 2017 18:59 (six years ago) link
I'm changing my job description to 'fuckwit cartoonist expert.'
― "Celebration" encourages the listener to celebrate good times. (Dan Peterson), Monday, 2 October 2017 18:59 (six years ago) link
it was cool to watch him smoke pot for the first time on Joe Rogan and then have a mild panic attack
― flappy bird, Monday, 2 October 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link
OK, I've never heard of "crisis actors" til now, and my opinion of humanity has apparently not bottomed out yet.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 October 2017 19:03 (six years ago) link
this is worth your time, although perhaps at a later date
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/09/the-sandy-hook-hoax.html
― Number None, Monday, 2 October 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link
OT: For someone with only 2-3 borrowed insights (Peter principle is real, most committee meetings are pointless, engineers should supervise engineers), he's had a pretty charmed life.
― prelude to abjection (Sanpaku), Monday, 2 October 2017 19:10 (six years ago) link
The National Rifle Association (NRA) has delayed political advertisements in Virginia in the wake of a mass shooting in Las Vegas that left more than 58 people dead and more than 500 injured.
The nation’s largest gun rights organization had originally booked $32,000 in cable television advertising to begin Tuesday, according to Advertising Analytics, a nonpartisan ad-buying firm that keeps tabs on the television market.
Now, those advertisements will begin on Oct. 10. At the same time, the NRA will devote just more than $1 million to ads airing on broadcast networks in markets around Virginia.
http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/353458-nra-delays-political-ads-after-las-vegas-shooting
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 October 2017 19:11 (six years ago) link
What do you have to do to get your own dedicated massacre thread these days??
― rip van wanko, Monday, 2 October 2017 19:13 (six years ago) link
as someone else on twitter observed, they've even learned to predict how long the national outrage will last
― gbx, Monday, 2 October 2017 19:14 (six years ago) link
i hate to admit it but i feel like after Sandy Hook i'm just numb to this shit now, except the sense there's an ever-expanding group of places/events where i should "stay frosty" in the event that some dude i've never met got mad that morning about his job at the place i just happen to be at or w/e
― nomar, Monday, 2 October 2017 19:16 (six years ago) link
most definitely a right time/right place kinda guy, though the first 6-7 years of Dilbert were pretty good
pretty amusing that he's thrown away what remained of his dignity in servitude of the living embodiment of the pointy-haired boss
― frogbs, Monday, 2 October 2017 19:17 (six years ago) link
for guys like Adams and Baio and even James Woods this is the best gig they've had in a decade
― nomar, Monday, 2 October 2017 19:18 (six years ago) link
I guess we need to get to the point where every person in America knows someone killed in a mass shooting in order to stop this "crisis actor" nonsense. We probably will get to that point, and it probably still won't help.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 2 October 2017 19:22 (six years ago) link
Not only is Fox News giving airtime to an expert in crisis actors (a made-up thing), they're giving it to fucking Scott Adams. What the fuck is going on.
― ian, Monday, 2 October 2017 19:25 (six years ago) link
I think that tweet was satire, correct me if I'm wrong
― frogbs, Monday, 2 October 2017 19:32 (six years ago) link
ugh guys i hate to say this but i just heard:
active shooter at USC
― nomar, Monday, 2 October 2017 19:39 (six years ago) link
xpost 2017 protip: if it seems like OTT satire, it's probably real.
― this is ridcolus (Old Lunch), Monday, 2 October 2017 19:40 (six years ago) link
who the hell knows anymore
― nomar, Monday, 2 October 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link
Seeing tweets about no evidence of active shooter at USC
― Evan, Monday, 2 October 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link
no
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 2 October 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link
the first good news of the day : /
― nomar, Monday, 2 October 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link