looking at Meth's singles chart postings it looks like his peak era was already over by '96 tho lol.
But he has a number one, and I don't think Ghost has ever even broken the top 10
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link
probably gonna vote for at least one of its tracks
xp
― bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 19:55 (six years ago) link
blackout 2 has some jams
― bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Tuesday, October 3, 2017 12:54 PM (fifty-nine seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah for sure. i added A Yo in there. Meth had some scattered goodness left
― Spottie, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 19:56 (six years ago) link
if wiki is right then 4:21 sold over 230k!? jeez
― Spottie, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link
loved the fallon performance when meth gets up on his desk and starts dancing <3http://cms.springboardplatform.com/embed_iframe/159/video/48337/rab010/rapbasement.com/10
― Spottie, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 20:01 (six years ago) link
couldn’t in good conscience participate in the nominations but i’m gonna try to vote in this anyway― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, October 1, 2017 7:30 AM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, October 1, 2017 7:30 AM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
brad, i meant to ask what you meant by this? the first part)
― Spottie, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 20:06 (six years ago) link
Okay, Spotify tracks list is done. Biggest missing albums are 8 Diagrams, Theodore Unit, Ghost and Trife... but it's only 20 tracks out of 328!I built a YouTube playlist with the non-spotify tracks; that's here: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcqiswAZfVPq-ohw_PGfSMBrSmlDNdlX5It all ends up being right at 24 hours of music.I'll build the albums list later.
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 20:22 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3RdWHFTNEk
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 20:30 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGGzZcmZfJI
yeah, those are in the youtube playlist i just posted.
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 20:35 (six years ago) link
ah, sorry
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 20:42 (six years ago) link
will always stan for this wild track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O8YoV2UVwc
― bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 20:43 (six years ago) link
the only intersect of Clinton and Wu, right?Really enjoying Gravediggaz first album rn, which i somehow never seriously listened to!
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 20:45 (six years ago) link
isn't Clinton on some other track on that shitty album
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 20:46 (six years ago) link
like I seem to remember him getting two of those motor-mouth monologues in
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 20:47 (six years ago) link
(tbf "Wolves" is def one of the good track on there)
wolves is great.
― Spottie, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 20:57 (six years ago) link
that first trife track you posted is good but just a trife solo song no?
― Spottie, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 20:58 (six years ago) link
thanks for doing the playlists, forks, will be helpful for sure.
― Spottie, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 21:02 (six years ago) link
No prob man. I'm learning a lot!
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 21:05 (six years ago) link
Haha oh shit yr right! Track is so good i got distracted. Feel free to remove
Xp
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 21:22 (six years ago) link
Okay, the album playlist is fully populated too. Cappadonna has a lotta albums!
Missing albums (if anybody wants to build a separate YouTube playlist) are:Cappadonna - The Cappatilize ProjectGhostface Killah (with Theodore Unit) - 718Ghostface Killah & Trife Da God - Put It on the LineGZA - Words from the GeniusGZA & DJ Muggs - GrandmastersOl' Dirty Bastard - A Son UniqueRZA - Digi SnacksSunz of Man - The Last Shall Be FirstWu-Tang Clan - 8 Diagrams
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 23:06 (six years ago) link
Thanks again. The sunz of man album is on spotify titled Natural High for some reason. I added already.
― Spottie, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 23:17 (six years ago) link
Ah got it; I saw that added but not on the list so I took that as an error. 9 outta 10 for the wu then.
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 00:44 (six years ago) link
thanks man
― sleeve, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 14:37 (six years ago) link
do we have enough people participating to make this work? figure we need about 20?
― Spottie, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 22:00 (six years ago) link
we've got 13 following the playlist on spotify, not sure how many more are planning on voting
― bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 22:10 (six years ago) link
Looks like there was about 15 or so who nominated at least one track and a couple others who chimed in with various other comments. but theres only like 4 of us talking in this thread so far.
― Spottie, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 22:15 (six years ago) link
Definitely plan on voting! Got a shortlist of 50+ tracks to work with.
― Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 22:21 (six years ago) link
Planning on voting as well, and really enjoying going through the playlist and discovering some new gems. For me, it's going to be hard for my ballot to have too much from outside the 36 Chambers-first five solo albums-Forever run. That's some of my favorite music ever made and I have such strong feelings about it
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 22:28 (six years ago) link
ould easily do just a ghostface ballot― Spottie, Monday, October 2, 2017 11:36 AM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Spottie, Monday, October 2, 2017 11:36 AM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I feel this, Ghost probably deserves his own artist poll in addition to this
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 22:30 (six years ago) link
top 5 ghost track imohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9HuGts2_SQ
― Spottie, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 23:42 (six years ago) link
I'm definitely voting, too, I just don't participate that much because I usually have nothing to add to the conversation. :)
― cwkiii, Thursday, 5 October 2017 00:50 (six years ago) link
But I guess I might as well campaign for this terrifying song while I'm here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K95kTh5gSfY
― cwkiii, Thursday, 5 October 2017 00:52 (six years ago) link
listening to the albums in the order they were released, tbh I think 36 Chambers is gonna end up towards the bottom of my top 5. Sacrilege, I know.
The arc of RZA's evolution as a producer is really interesting, esp because the first album seems to come out of left-field and bears next to no resemblance to that dominant sounds on the east coast (Puffy/Biggie) and the west coast (Dre/Snoop/2-Pac) at the time that were clearly leading the way through rap's big crossover pop moment. RZA was drawing from a different, very NY-centric tradition though (I think Muggs/Cypress Hill is a notable exception/precedent), and you can hear these echoes of Juice Crew/Marley Marl, Premier, Pete Rock, even the Native Tongues, in the way the beats sound and the way the songs are structured and put together. What's different and sets it apart is the actual content/imagery of all the kung-fu film stuff, and the dusty, gritty, almost tinny sound of it. There is not a ton of low end on this record, but there is tons of distortion, noise, and weirdly chopped samples. And it's all fascinating but tbh I don't think it actually *sounds* as good as a bunch of stuff that came later as he refined his approach. By the time he gets to the Dirty album, something like "Shimmy Shimmy Ya" really bangs - minimalist as it is there's a depth and widescreen-appeal to the sound, everything is carefully placed and panned in the mix for maximum impact, the haze of the first album and Tical (which is muddy as *fuck*, the whole thing sounds underwater) is still deployed but it's more skillful, less sloppy.
And then by the time he gets to Cuban Linx (probably the peak imo) shit is sounding downright shiny and polished.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 October 2017 15:30 (six years ago) link
and oddly I feel like the back half of 36 Chambers - from C.R.E.A.M. on - is where it really hits it's stride
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 October 2017 15:37 (six years ago) link
also jfc getting this down to 36 tracks for my ballot is gonna be a bitch
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 October 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link
my first run through of just the albums I own (a little more than a dozen) yielded 60 tracks, and I've only just started to check out the Spotify playlist.
― bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Thursday, 5 October 2017 16:11 (six years ago) link
Think Rza himself said he stole the most from Prince Paul xps. good post tho.
Tical is pretty great sounding in it's murkiness. The bass is so maxed out and sloppy. Def pushes my sub to extremes.
― Spottie, Thursday, 5 October 2017 18:57 (six years ago) link
yeah iirc he cites Paul in the Wu-Tang Manual and they obviously had a personal connection. I get that Paul paved the way for being "weird" with the skits and samples and RZA ran with that, no doubt. but I don't really hear a lot of De La or Stetsasonic or 3rd Bass (lol) in that first album. the lo-fi grittiness reminds me more Marley Marl or BDP, it's the raw, scratchy loops.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 October 2017 19:36 (six years ago) link
hear a lotta paul in this first gravediggaz album
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:00 (six years ago) link
cos he produced it
― Spottie, Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link
he was sill credited on their second album too but dont think he had anything to do with it.
― Spottie, Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:25 (six years ago) link
tbrr I never liked either Gravediggaz album
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:27 (six years ago) link
the first one is an all-time classic IMO
― Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:28 (six years ago) link
first one is undeniable, 2nd one has a handful of tracks.
― Spottie, Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:32 (six years ago) link
never been a big fan of rza as emcee but love him on that album
― Spottie, Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:33 (six years ago) link
lol so my "shortlist" track ballot is um 150 tracks long
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:48 (six years ago) link
yeah mine's still around that size atm gonna be tough
― Spottie, Thursday, 5 October 2017 21:03 (six years ago) link
I'm committed to my top 5 but past that it gets a little squirrelly
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 October 2017 21:30 (six years ago) link
Aw no cobra clutch? Ok I'll be voting for enough ghost as is I guess
― plums (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 4 November 2017 09:36 (six years ago) link
Sent a copy over
― plums (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 4 November 2017 14:05 (six years ago) link
do we at least have... 36?
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, November 4, 2017 1:19 AM (twelve hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i wish .
got your a hoy hoy, waiting on forks now...
― Spottie, Saturday, 4 November 2017 21:14 (six years ago) link
Forks you have until Teusday night. Im starting this rollout Wednesday.
― Spottie, Monday, 6 November 2017 19:43 (six years ago) link
(or anyone else that wants in still)
is this going to open this week?
― Bee OK, Thursday, 9 November 2017 00:34 (six years ago) link
got everythign compiled but had to go on business trip so starting it fresh on monday now. sorry team.
― Spottie, Thursday, 9 November 2017 18:08 (six years ago) link
can(t) it all be so simple
nice timing... little appetizer for us to discuss in the meantime
https://massappeal.com/wu-tang-clan-ranked-every-song/
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:45 (six years ago) link
man those full catalog worst to best breakdown lists are exhausting
― Spottie, Saturday, 11 November 2017 03:21 (six years ago) link
that mass appeal list is so lazy, just 92 songs presented with a quote from each, no criticism or engaging with the songs
believe it was rushomancy who demonstrated the format's potential in his breakdown of every pink floyd song, that list ruled
― niels, Saturday, 11 November 2017 09:11 (six years ago) link
I’ll have to check that
― Spottie, Saturday, 11 November 2017 17:03 (six years ago) link
https://pinkfloydsongsranked.blogspot.com/
― niels, Saturday, 11 November 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link
Nice thx
― Spottie, Saturday, 11 November 2017 17:53 (six years ago) link
man Supreme Clientele is such a great start-to-finish record, greater than the sum of its parts in a weird way
― Οὖτις, Monday, 13 November 2017 22:21 (six years ago) link
agreed.
btw ive got everything ready to go just doing some graphics. gonna start with the sub polls tonight.
― Spottie, Monday, 13 November 2017 22:37 (six years ago) link
ended up with 17 ballots so dragging it out got us over the hump
― Spottie, Monday, 13 November 2017 22:39 (six years ago) link
fwiw I would've voted for more "The W" songs if it weren't for the fact that almost every track on that album is actually 2 or 3 different songs randomly cut together.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 00:19 (six years ago) link
agh i unbookmarked thread accidentally. i am bad person.
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 17:49 (six years ago) link
THE POLL IS COMIN THROUGH, THE OUTCOME IS CRITICAL — WU-TANG CLAN — Artist Poll — Results
― Spottie, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 23:12 (six years ago) link
woohoo!
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 04:58 (six years ago) link