I HATE APPLE

honestly i have no idea. i think my battery life was better in 11.0.1 than 11.0.2 (and 11.0) but not 100% sure. imo the more likely explanation is that many of the bugs are manifesting inconsistently across apparently identical devices, which potentially makes debugging/testing a total nightmare.

one curious bug that’s fucking me right off is when i reply to a text directly from the notification, and after typing 2–3 words the whole thing suddenly disappears. i’ve not read about this one anywhere so have no idea how many people are impacted by it.

far more app crashes under 11.0.2, definitely

Thanks. I’ll wait for .3 to appear.

i had been putting off updating to 11, based on this thread, and awoke to find that my phone had updated itself automatically overnight (something it's never successfully done ever, even when i wanted it to)

lol at single user console on a 15inch retina. it's like they've etched it on a grain of rice.

is icloud photo library reliable?

It is the nearest thing to reliable I’ve ever seen from Apple. It once failed to reliably sync a few deletions across devices but that’s about it

If you want reliable, diy

buddy you have not seen what happens when I do things

thanks stet. sounds like it’s worth doing.

calstars: i already back up all the important photos to external hdd, google and onedrive. iphoto cloud library would just be for convenience, and because ‘er indoors wants all her stuff to be easy.

fair enough

So for convenience only, yes no prob

fantastic, thank you

fwiw apple music also seems to be decently solid now. no real issues beyond every single song being unavailable (grey) until you restart, which is probably just another ios 11 bug

bought airpods, the frequency of dropouts is sort of ridiculous

take em back, I've experienced that maybe once the entire time I've owned them

thanks mh. at first i thought it was my shitty phone buckling under the weight of ios 11, but the sound dropped out a few times with the apple tv as well, although it got better when i moved the apple tv.

looking on the web, dozens of reports of dropouts when people put their phone in their pocket, and only when they're walking outside. that's what happened to me. seems weird that bluetooth contention (or something??) would defeat a <2 foot connection when it was coping with 60+ feet in the office.

You probably bought Bluetooth shielding pants by accident.

oh hey my whole music library on my iphone disappeared, that's cool

songs greyed out or vanished altogether?

You probably bought Bluetooth shielding pants by accident.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 03:32 (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha probably

all gone, only the 3 or 4 albums that I bought from the iTunes store many years ago remain

reminds me of years ago when i made a balls up with my iTunes library and all i had left was this:

https://imgur.com/n1dV5ML

let's try again:

https://i.imgur.com/n1dV5ML.jpg

that's a good library

MART SPLAYLIST

jesus

marcos: apple music, or your own files you transferred directly via itunes?

re airpods: flawless playing from my watch. i did the phone/pocket thing again (re-paired), fewer people around this morning but it seemed fine, except when i put my hand in my pocket and presumably blocked the bluetooth circuitry. perhaps i just need to learn how transmission works.

it’s training you not to keep your hands in your pockets all the time

ha pretty much.

honestly i’ll be thrilled if i can get this sorted because these things are so impressive. when apple totally nails the user experience it’s like nothing else.

Gotta say that's some pretty shitty antenna design.

marcos: apple music, or your own files you transferred directly via itunes?

― rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Monday, October 9, 2017 5:41 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Own files from iTunes. obv not a huge pain to re-upload but still it was kind of weird

maybe it’s improved since my iphone 6. following the enforced death of headphone jacks it’d bloody need to improve tbf xp

xp weird that your own files disappeared suddenly. did you upgrade the phone os just recently? (sorry if you’ve already mentioned it, i can’t go back through the apple threads just now)

okay so the airpods have been a load better today, probably because i (a) kept my hands out of my pockets and (b) stayed away from street-level electrified tram tracks (it only dropped out when i was crossing the road)

more dropouts when walking (it wasn't the tram lines after all) and with the apple tv well clear of other wireless/bluetooth things, so i spoke to apple. they told me:

• (a) airpods aren't explicitly certified for use with an apple tv (i checked, believe it or not this is true),
• (b) apple officially recommends not storing the phone in a "bag, purse or pocket" while listening with airpods, but they didn't tell me where i should put the phone while walking around, given that i don't have a wheelbarrow or fishing rod, and
• (c) i should try removing the (official apple leather) case and going naked, which is a super dumb way to get about with a thousand buck phone

also it was weird how they rattled off all this almost-legalese "you're holding it wrong" type language followed by "i hope you're very satisfied with my service" and "thanks for being in the apple family!!" uh okay.

i mean i contacted apple to see whether there was a known problem (e.g. the iphone 6 is shit with bluetooth) or whether there was an easy fix. i absolutely did not expect a "you're holding it wrong" type solution. that's the second time i've ever had a duff interaction with apple (the first was when their philippines call centre told me compulsory compliance with australian consumer law was a "one-time" special favour).

ugh

oh hey my whole music library on my iphone disappeared, that's cool

I think this basically right (Is Apple intentionally slowing down your old iPhone? The data suggests not) in saying that the core OS isn't crippled by successive updates as the phone gets older, but the point about third-party apps isn't given enough weight.

It takes Facebook, Twitter and Citymapper far, far longer to launch than just a few months ago on my 6. What I'd like is granularity in the update schedule for apps: I'm fine with allowing automatic updates on the dozens of apps I own that I don't need regular, quick access to, but I'd like those three, for example, to just switch to manual updates for those three apps once my phone model is, say, two years past its release date, as that seems to be when things start really slowing down.

Mitigating strategies: using Tweetbot (launches really fast, but doesn't handle nu-Twitter well), ditching Facebook app for a homescreen link to the website, using Citymapper's set of widgets.

I guess webpage load times creeping up has also been a big factor in phones getting slower to use, but in the media, at least that has been somewhat addressed recently with AMP, instant articles and the like.

yeah i agree (apart from ios 11 which is a hulking bag of shit), increasingly demanding apps are a huge part of the reason things slow down over time. ios 10 was pretty good on day one, but by august most of what i used was laggy as hell.

yeah - I turn off automatic updates after a year on any new device

i contacted apple again re the airpods and spoke to someone else who was MUCH better. he agreed the airpods should work in my pocket, agreed they should have a range longer than 3 feet, said they sound faulty to him, and suggested i get them replaced. mh was right (which i didn't doubt btw, was just hoping to avoid the hassle of going back to the shop).

Pro tip: delete Facebook

the replacement airpods are definitely better. i think the right one was dodgy because my phone put a big red x (or !) next to it a couple of times.

i did have an issue with dropouts at home, but it turned out to be a bluetooth subwoofer i'd forgotten to turn off that was screaming for a soundbar and basically jamming everything else.

in summary, i don't hate apple and am effectively derailing a quality thread

"iTunes could not connect to the iPad “~~~~~~~” because it is locked with a passcode. You must enter your passcode on the iPad before it can be used with iTunes."

since i turned on wifi sync, i get this error message every time my ipad goes to "sleep", which is like every five minutes

short of removing the passcode, anyone know how to fix this?

far more app crashes under 11.0.2, definitely

― rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, October 5, 2017 1:26 AM (two weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Thanks. I’ll wait for .3 to appear.

― willem, Thursday, October 5, 2017 1:44 AM (two weeks ago)

What's the verdict on .3?

Works fine. No app crashes (but I have a very limited number of apps I regularly use). Battery life as it was with .1.