ok lets all shit our pants to something old: pre-2006 horror film thread

I'm always surprised how miserable it is for a goofy comedy, they're constantly in pain.

so much pain

I watched/rewatched (I'm mostly sure I've seen them both but it's been ages and ages) Whatever Happened to Baby Jane? and Hush...Hush, Sweet Charlotte over the weekend and I'm sure I'm telling no tales out of school when I say they're both great movies. And I think this Bette Davis lady might be one to keep an eye on. Out of this world performances, I expect great things from her.

OMG

first of all

whatever happened to baby jane is one of my most horrific favorite movies. just astounding. second i need to see hush hush.

THIRD i just watched "A STOLEN LIFE" in which Ms. Davis plays herself AND her evil twin sister!!!!!!!!!!!! HIGHly recommend

Whatever Happened to Baby Jane? is the only Davis horror film I've seen. I think there's supposed to be maybe 4 or 5 of them, including a Hammer film.

i can't with that woman.

Ah, A Stolen Life! I watched these with my mom (I think they're pretty much her favorite horror movies) and she was recommending that one, as well, but couldn't remember the name. I will have to check it out.

Is that called A Stolen Life? I thought it was called Dead Ringer.

no that's another one!

in which she also plays 2 roles. i think later on in career.

Mash those two movies up pronto!

totally

The Nanny is her Hammer film I was thinking of.

She also made The Anniversary for Hammer - neither it or The Nanny are strictly horror films (The Nanny is one of Jimmy Sangster's Psycho-inspired twisty thrillers, The Anniversary a black comedy w/ Bette giving good eyepatch).

Hope you British people are going to Fopp right now, there's an absolute ton of horror/cult blurays for £6 each. Very tempting to buy better versions of films I've already got, kinda wish I was born a decade later, should be a great time for youngsters just getting into this stuff.

And for the Americans, Kino has a horror sale running and it looks like Scream Factory will be doing likewise on Monday.

I watched the Spanish language version of Universal's Dracula last night. It was a little draggy and overly-stagy in the same way as the English language version and Villarias was a pretty hammy Dracula but I think I otherwise preferred it to the Lugosi version. Pablo Alvarez Rubio gave Dwight Frye a run for his money as Renfield, which was a pleasant surprise.

watched a bunch of things that would qualify for this thread for my october horror marathon:

pulse (2001): astounding, one of the few things i've seen since twin peaks season three that reminds me of it
daughters of darkness: so little happens in this movie that it's practically ambient; thankfully i love an ambient lesbian vampire movie
fulci's the beyond: maybe my favorite movie of all time now
ghostwatch: THIS MOVIE IS SO SCARY

Which Arrow stuff gets to America? They don't seem to have an American site.

Rewatching Kill Baby Kill, the scene of the main character running after his doppleganger in the looped room is so much like the red room scenes in Twin Peaks. Lynch has been noted as a Kill Baby Kill fan but I've never seen him talk about it.
The English dub uses the music a bit more insistently and I think that takes some power away from some scenes, like the old woman in her bedroom with all moaning sounds.

should i see Kill Baby Kill? it's playing locally in a couple of weeks

arrow stuff goes on sale in america once in a while but through places like DiabolikDVD

I'm one of apparently many people who ordered Pulse on Amazon in July only to have the order consistently delayed and then ultimately cancelled like a week ago. So now I need to find a non-Amazon business to give my Pulse money to.

I'm not sure what the rationale is for what Arrow releases in the US. At the very least, it seems that we don't get Arrow releases for stuff that is already available in a US edition, which makes sense. And a lot of the UK stuff is region-free these days. I try to stay abreast of their releases at blu-ray.com because, yeah, their official US web presence is lacking.

One thing I'm quickly learning: if they put out a collection that you've interested in buying as a collection, get on it ASAP because those suckers are limited.

i'm in Chicago for the wknd and am dying to see if any of the movie houses are playing horror... need to Google some shiz

Music Box would've been your best bet but I don't think they start their horror extravaganza until later in the month (and it looks like they're basically just playing Lucky all weekend). Texas Chainsaw Massacre is playing at the Logan but it's kind of out of the way (unless you're in/near Logan Square).

i am kind of! that would be amazing to see on the big screen! if i want to be scared out of my mind lol.... thanks for the tip!!

Nhex- if you haven't seen Kill Baby Kill you really should. It's one of the best Bava films.

There's something about seeing all these Arrow, Eureka, Criterion, BFI, 88 Films and Indicator films lined up in the shops. The uniformity of their designs makes them more tempting to collect and fill the gaps of your film experience. I bet half of them don't live up to their cover art though.

https://88-films.myshopify.com/collections/88-asia-collection
On Saturday I didn't find as many of these as I expected. Some of them seem to go out of print super fast so grab them when they come out. For some reason Hex, Black Magic and Five Element Ninjas are easier to find, maybe they printed way too many. I've ordered the four I'm missing and Bewitched comes out tomorrow.

Their Italian and Slasher films don't seem as limited so I don't know what's going on there.

aw man, i wish i could play those

If regions are only an issue for bluray and not dvd, you can get most Shaw Brothers films on Chinese dvd and they all have English subtitles.
I don't know what the reasoning is for the collection above having no dvd versions for some of them and the newer dvd releases being sold separately from the blurays.

10 years ago UK home releases were really shit and I needed to get so many things in other region codes but somehow the last few years have been pretty great. Ban region coding.

Did that Code Red bluray of Zeder ever really come out? I saw reviews of it.

i have told mk2 (14) that we are watching Alien tomorrow afternoon.
(its on now on uk film4 tv channel)
not sure he has ever seen a proper 'horror' film before.
i suspect it will look rather tame in 2017 in comparison to when i saw it when i was 14/15.

My daughter did not even think Alien was a horror film. I think she liked it, but found it boring enough that I have yet to be able to convince her to see the sequel, even though I swore to her it's a lot more exciting.

i expect the same result to be honest JiC.

i'm amazed you guys even try to have your kids watch older films, it's a tough sell

Don't most kids grow up with older films? I don't ever remember turning a film down because it was too old.

It's tough, there is just so much that has radically changed. B&W to color, ratings/loosening of codes/censorship, advances in special effects, aspect rations, pacing ... the toughest thing I've found is not, say, B&W (since B&W=old, which is to say, historic/important) or even the pacing, but the aspect ratio change. Rather than "why are there bars on the top and bottom," now it's "why are there bars on the side," only also in tandem with all the other changes as well, not to mention TVs/screens which highlight the change in ratio standard, which can make older movies a tough watch.

Anyway, we are about as far from the 1980s now as the 1980s were from the 1940s; "E.T." is an older film. When I was a kid there was network TV with B&W academy ratio creature double features, and I saw everything from Dead Of Night and Godzilla flicks to Universal monster movies. But no kid is going to come across, say, Creature from the Black Lagoon unless their parents make them watch it.

And even the horror selection on Netflix is truly pathetic. I see stuff like creepypasta (and whatever else is popular on YouTube) dominating the horror landscape twenty years from now, because what else are the future horror filmmakers being exposed to?

do you guys subscribe to Shudder? It's $5/mo and it's great! So much good stuff on there (for people who like horror movies) They have Blue Sunshine!!!

The fact that actors used to emote in a more stagey way, and that movie scores also used to be demonstrative and assertive, I find to be a huge factor in turning younger people off older movies. "This is cheesy"

(It hardly needs saying that I eat up both of these bygone approaches)

I need to get shudder. Does it work on PS3?

that i don't know -- but it's totally worth it. my only complaint is that they trollishly have some bullshit play automatically when you open/enter/launch/? the station

i think some people really like old movies and some don't -- it was the same when we were kids.

Shudder seems like a great service, but I own like 700 horror movies so it's probably not necessary for me to use it.

hear ya on that
they do have a lot of cult classics though!

Yeah, you mention Blue Sunshine and it instantly makes me wonder what other stuff Shudder has that isn't readily available on a shiny plastic disc...

xpost I think the staginess of the acting hasn't really been a factor for us; kids like broad acting. But just how the movies were/are made ... lots of old movies, from Buster Keaton to Blade Runner or whatever, I have to constantly remind my daughter that they were all done without computers or CGI. Or, like, in Lawrence of Arabia, when you see 1000 camels and horses racing across the desert in one shot, the only way to do that was to do that. I think the artistry of filmmaking is totally lost on digital kids, for whom filmmaking (like photography) is less a craft and more just a process of perfection, to some degree. Take a million pictures, fiddle with the filters and effects. With stuff like iMovie a part of their lives from a young age up, I've been impressed how many tenets of filmmaking have been ingrained without them really even knowing what they're doing, from lighting and composition to blocking, just from watching youtube tutorials and emulating. My daughter, for example, figured out the need for ADR just to compensate for the quality of her phone microphone, not knowing that ADR is a common thing.

I might go for Shudder now, it's the only way for me to see Sweet Sweet Lonely Girl, which looks awesome.

xpost TBF, I often have to remind myself of some of the same things. Watching the Spanish version of the Universal Dracula a few weeks back, it took a minute to sink in that Dracula's castle was an actual massive set and not just something they took care of in post.

I'm going to post the reviews at the weekend but I recently saw some jawdropping stuff nobody would film today because it is too irresponsible.