Orson Welles

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hfs "My Lunches With Orson" does not disappoint! Dying @ his petty European prejudices ("Sardinians have stubby fingers. Croatians have short necks. Everybody knows these things.")

Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:04 (six years ago) link

he was OTM about Reagan, Ike, and FDR, fullashit about Renoir, Jimmy Stewart, Bogart.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:11 (six years ago) link

is that the Jaglom book?

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:16 (six years ago) link

Croatians have short necks

"Orson you can't say that"

"Measure them, measure them!"

Number None, Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:24 (six years ago) link

well it's credited to Biskind (cuz he edited it) but yes it's transcripts of Jaglom's recordings. Which Orson asked him to make (contrary to what is stipulated upthread)

Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:28 (six years ago) link

it's just a joy to read, laugh-out-loud funny

Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link

I'm still waiting for the third volume in paperback of Callow's biography. Hardcovers are beyond my budget atm.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 5 October 2017 21:28 (six years ago) link

It's solid, the best critical bio.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 October 2017 21:29 (six years ago) link

it's odd, prior to this book, outside of his involvement with Easy Rider I had absolutely no knowledge of Jaglom's work. Never heard of it, never seen any of it.

Οὖτις, Monday, 9 October 2017 17:58 (six years ago) link

jaglom has always skeeved me out viscerally

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 9 October 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link

wiki summaries of his work do not inspire confidence. and the one lunch where Orson gives him notes on one of his screenplays (which sounds fucking awful) his suggestions are 100% better than the crap Jaglom had.

Οὖτις, Monday, 9 October 2017 19:43 (six years ago) link

I don't think Welles cultivated a group of wormy little fuckers but they certainly sought him out

mh, Monday, 9 October 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link

Some of Jaglom's films are worth seeing imho - Tracks, Sitting Ducks, Can She Bake a Cherry Pie?, Deja Vu. His debut, A Safe Place, which tries to relocate the nouvelle vague to New York and features a cameo from Welles as a magician in Central Park, is one of the great 'I wish I could have seen the faces of the Columbia executives when they screened this one' movies.

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 08:22 (six years ago) link

four weeks pass...

There's not a lot going on in this interview, but I didn't expect to see Welles and Andy Kaufman together!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrGlWAFy1LU

mh, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 00:55 (six years ago) link

oh hell yeah, i just stumbled on that video a few weeks ago during an andy kaufman youtube wormhole. so good

flappy bird, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 01:06 (six years ago) link

well there is something going on, Welles talking to Kaufman about a show he apparently hated doing.

Is Welles subbing for Dinah Shore there? It's obviously not the Carson set (tho I'm p sure OW subbed there too).

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 01:24 (six years ago) link

Merv Griffin show, I think

mh, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 01:30 (six years ago) link

OK, he was a guest with Griffin a lot (including the evening before he died). The set looks a little too homey for Merv though.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 01:34 (six years ago) link

OK, it is Griffin, per the AV Club...

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 01:37 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

well indeed

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 January 2018 16:26 (six years ago) link

i wonder if surviving cast member Rich Little was there; I don't see him.

Crispin had a better seat than Tarantella tho!

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 January 2018 16:28 (six years ago) link

pretty interesting ... wonder if it'll actually be good?

tylerw, Thursday, 18 January 2018 18:26 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

Reading the third Callow bio now. Possibly the best of these for me so far, especially since it dives into my fave years of Welles' life. Callow often a laugh out loud funny writer, too.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 7 April 2018 15:26 (six years ago) link

I'd read another three

Number None, Saturday, 7 April 2018 15:41 (six years ago) link

yeah, me too!

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 7 April 2018 16:05 (six years ago) link

Reading the third Callow bio now. Possibly the best of these for me so far, especially since it dives into my fave years of Welles' life. Callow often a laugh out loud funny writer, too.

― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee),

Agreed. The Touch of Evil captures that sense of exhilaration shared by Heston, Leigh, Welles, the supporting cast, and crew who knew they were making something that pushed them beyond their abilities.

The chapter on Olivier and Rhinoceros is grimly funny too.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 7 April 2018 16:08 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

The radio broadcasts that Orson Welles dedicated to the case of Isaac Woodard, Jr. deserve to be as well known as his War of the Worlds: https://t.co/ort1TjzTFI

— 𝕿𝖗𝖔𝖚𝖇𝖑𝖊 𝕰𝖛𝖊𝖗𝖞 𝕯𝖆𝖞 (@NickPinkerton) May 6, 2018

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 12 May 2018 01:49 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

started in on the Callow bio, so far it's pretty great. 99% of the theater references go over my head, but whatever.

Οὖτις, Monday, 25 June 2018 15:52 (five years ago) link

which volume?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 June 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link

Volume 1, figured it would be best to start at the beginning!

Οὖτις, Monday, 25 June 2018 16:02 (five years ago) link

It's the only one I haven't read.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 June 2018 16:13 (five years ago) link

Callow's writing has both an acidity and a floridness that I associate with the theater (and also find intermittently silly and charming). Seems pretty perceptive in general though, and his editorial asides are always interesting.

Οὖτις, Monday, 25 June 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link

Vol. 1 is essential. The preschool genius years, the truth about the semi-mythic trip to Ireland, the triumph of the early Mercury plays and then the first of many disastrous follies with Five Kings. All fascinating stuff.

Oh, and Kane, if you're not bored of that.

Number None, Monday, 25 June 2018 18:30 (five years ago) link

I tend to skip first volumes. I didn't even read the first part of Caro's LBJ book.

Patrick McGilligan's 2015 bio I did read.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 June 2018 18:48 (five years ago) link

I guess I just trust an old luvvie like Callow more on the early years because they're so theatre-focused. Convinced a relative ignoramus like me anyway.

Probably no one needs to read an in-depth examination of every play young Orson produced at the Todd School but I still ate it up

Number None, Monday, 25 June 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link

I didn't even read the first part of Caro's LBJ book

lol me too, looked a bit dreary (and is also summarized pretty succinctly in subsequent volumes)

Οὖτις, Monday, 25 June 2018 18:59 (five years ago) link

depends how much you're dying to read about young LBJ stealing his high school glee club's election, or whatever

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 25 June 2018 19:01 (five years ago) link

starting with like a hundred pages about his great-grandparents or whatever is the ultimate taunt to the undecided reader from Caro

Number None, Monday, 25 June 2018 19:05 (five years ago) link

the opening 100pp about soil yield in the texas hill country are vital you slackers

difficult listening hour, Monday, 25 June 2018 21:53 (five years ago) link

do you start in balbec, too

difficult listening hour, Monday, 25 June 2018 21:55 (five years ago) link

they actually are great. The original settlers awed by the seemingly endless fields of grass, only to be reaping dust a few decades later

Number None, Monday, 25 June 2018 21:59 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Coming Soon https://t.co/YtkQFPimWe

— Janus Films (@janusfilms) July 19, 2018

flappy bird, Thursday, 19 July 2018 16:44 (five years ago) link

four weeks pass...

shoulda waited til they find those 40 minutes tho

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:34 (five years ago) link

They shouldn't make any more movies period until they find those 40 minutes.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:35 (five years ago) link

good idea, i got enough to watch

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:41 (five years ago) link

excerpts from an unfinished 1982 memoir by Welles

be very interested in reading this!

Number None, Friday, 17 August 2018 13:03 (five years ago) link

did he publish a memoir? you could probably assemble one from all the interviews in his last 15 years, but he's a rather unreliable narrator.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 August 2018 13:45 (five years ago) link


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