also apparently being a DA in NYC is lucrative as fuck!
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 5 October 2017 22:42 (six years ago) link
People are just tripping over themselves to give him money because they like him so much!
― jmm, Thursday, 5 October 2017 23:07 (six years ago) link
Well, yeah. Straight shooter, that Vance.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 October 2017 23:19 (six years ago) link
btw I thought I posted on this thread like 12 years ago noting what an asshole AND misogynist Harvey was and is, but I couldn't find it via search. Because back then I knew someone at Miramar who complained about this exact shit.
― Randall Jarrell (dandydonweiner), Friday, 6 October 2017 02:00 (six years ago) link
*Miramax
― Randall Jarrell (dandydonweiner), Friday, 6 October 2017 02:01 (six years ago) link
Goddamn this story is insane. Yeah I'm with Josh, there's no way a huge chunk of the film industry didn't know about this. For decades! So gross
― flappy bird, Friday, 6 October 2017 02:06 (six years ago) link
so many open secrets just like every other ____________ industrial complex.
― Randall Jarrell (dandydonweiner), Friday, 6 October 2017 02:14 (six years ago) link
Why don't these guys feel shame that these women have no actual interest in them, and/or are actively turned off by them? Do they just not conceive of the women's thoughts at all? Or is that part of the turn on?
― Virginia Plain, Friday, 6 October 2017 02:29 (six years ago) link
Both
― flappy bird, Friday, 6 October 2017 02:39 (six years ago) link
Probably. I mean it's such a bizarre fetish, dude looks fucking disgusting & he just wants massages & women to see his whole... situation. Getting off on power and humiliation.
― flappy bird, Friday, 6 October 2017 02:41 (six years ago) link
If I thought a dude was disgusted by me, I would feel so embarrassed to try and coerce that dude to sleep with me.
Even more so if the only things in my favor were power/ money/ ability to further their career.
I think you would just have to get to the point where you don't view the other people as actual humans having any sort of agency. They are just your playthings?
Also thinking of DJT lying in bed naked under a sheet because he's ashamed of his body trying to get some woman to come into his hotel bedroom.
― Virginia Plain, Friday, 6 October 2017 03:06 (six years ago) link
It takes all kinds
― flappy bird, Friday, 6 October 2017 04:58 (six years ago) link
there's a definite possibility he thinks women are attracted to him
― qualx, Friday, 6 October 2017 06:28 (six years ago) link
Good follow-up by Rebecca Traister at The Cut: https://www.thecut.com/2017/10/why-the-weinstein-sexual-harassment-allegations-came-out-now.html
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Friday, 6 October 2017 12:39 (six years ago) link
Have fun with that, dude.
https://t.co/n0Ty3RiR04
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 October 2017 13:18 (six years ago) link
That's an anonymously sourced Daily Mail story though.
― jmm, Friday, 6 October 2017 13:26 (six years ago) link
Best kind! (I mean, thing is: at this point, sure seems like the thing he'd eventually claim.)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 October 2017 13:28 (six years ago) link
Jeffrey Wells may be the most loathsome blogger in Hollywood, but some of the comments are 'enlightening':
http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2017/10/pay-play-massages-payoffs-messy-behavior/
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 October 2017 15:31 (six years ago) link
Someone please check the lead content in whatever Cilizza drinks at lunch.
They weren't major donors to the GOP like Weinstein is to Dems https://t.co/dIjVRzLRAq— Chris Cillizza (@CillizzaCNN) October 6, 2017
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Friday, 6 October 2017 16:36 (six years ago) link
lmao constantly pointing out that Weinstein was a major donor to the Dems doesn't seem like a well-thought out line of attack
― frogbs, Friday, 6 October 2017 16:39 (six years ago) link
it's no different and also not as bad as that picture of Bill & Hillary with Trump & Melania. and yeah Cilliza = moron
― flappy bird, Friday, 6 October 2017 16:55 (six years ago) link
http://gothamist.com/2017/10/06/harvey_weinstein_accuses_ny_times_o.php?_ga=2.148250871.19607542.1506960782-484564342.1476232601
what a piece of shit
Judd's memory of their encounter was also false, Weinstein insisted, before saying, "I know Ashley Judd is going through a tough time right now, I read her book [her memoir ‘All That Is Bitter and Sweet’], in which she talks about being the victim of sexual abuse and depression as a child. Her life story was brutal, and I have to respect her. In a year from now, I am going to reach out to her."
― nomar, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link
"in a year from now"
completely perplexed by his statements & comments yesterday in the wake of the NYT piece. like someone said upthread, doesn't this guy have the best crisis management & team of lawyers available??? hasn't he learned that when this shit happens, you make a milquetoast statement & then GO AWAY for a while? it's just bizarre, you see this same thing happen to so many other huge figures that have been exposed & fallen so quickly.
― flappy bird, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link
doesn't this guy have the best crisis management & team of lawyers available???
including Obama WH Communications Director Anita Dunn
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 6 October 2017 17:22 (six years ago) link
easier to sell drones vs sex in America
xp I guess he's just ignoring any advice he gets? kind of like Trump, you can get to a certain level where you are too powerful for anyone to protect you from your own worst instincts?
― soref, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:24 (six years ago) link
yeah otm it definitely reminded me of Trump. also Ailes, O'Reilly, Cosby obviously...
― flappy bird, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link
a certain pain-feelin' president
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 October 2017 17:35 (six years ago) link
ha, this pic belongs in that thread of "faces of people who have to apologize for something in front of their wives"
http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/303385/2685363/1287687757153/bill-clinton-404_683090c.jpg
― flappy bird, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link
Seattle's child-rapist ex-mayor's response to the surfacing of accusations earlier this year was to publish a doctor's note confirming that there were no moles on his genitals. Powerful people just want to keep talking.
― .oO (silby), Friday, 6 October 2017 17:47 (six years ago) link
Powerful *old* people. Seems like a trend with so many of these cases. Shit, remember the Sandusky/Costas interview?
― flappy bird, Friday, 6 October 2017 18:22 (six years ago) link
People with wealth and power who ruthlessly screw whoever they want throughout their entire lives have traditionally made deathbed conversions, so as to clear their path into heaven before they die. Confession is part of the deal. So is building a chapel or paying for masses in perpetuity, although making movies about the NRA probably counts, too.
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 6 October 2017 18:51 (six years ago) link
A story so old that the very first tale in Boccaccio's Decameron is a hilarious take on this phenomenon.
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (Bananaman Begins), Saturday, 7 October 2017 11:00 (six years ago) link
yeah it's an age old tale. exploitation and the entertainment industry. there is the talent and there are the gatekeepers, leeching off both artists and the public. makes you tempted to say, fuck it, just go DIY, just go local. but these abusive power structures exist pretty much everywhere, whether you are CEO of movies or a local promoter who controls access.
this story in particular certainly explains how most movies are largely morality-free power fantasies and have been for decades. it's all cynical, there is no hope for humanity, just self-referential consumerism. Superman just stands there with a dumb look on his face while a room full of people explodes. when is the last time you left a movie feeling something, anything, that perhaps pointed to a universal truth or insight? look who is making them, amoral privileged power mongers.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 7 October 2017 15:19 (six years ago) link
when is the last time you left a movie feeling something, anything, that perhaps pointed to a universal truth or insight?
Last night.
― Frederik B, Saturday, 7 October 2017 15:20 (six years ago) link
thanks for sharing, that sounds like a great movie
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 7 October 2017 15:25 (six years ago) link
yeah that happens
/when is the last time you left a movie feeling something, anything, that perhaps pointed to a universal truth or insight?/Last night.
― flappy bird, Saturday, 7 October 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link
weren't you just lolling about an publically elected official twice accused of sexual harassment and using his position to silence his abusers?
see, people are fine with it to a degree, even if it is sick, because the tribal thing is so strong, the consumer aspect of branding to one side or the other. to centrist liberals Bill Clinton's transgressions are a laughing matter, and if you are a leftist and bring it up, you are called a sexist or a Russian plant. "oh no! he has to apologize to his wife!" dismisses the voices of the abused. belittling the shit he did normalizes that behavior.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 7 October 2017 16:24 (six years ago) link
silence his victims
like if there is going to be a moral ground, it needs to apply to everyone, not just "the good guys" or "the bad guys".
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 7 October 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link
Yeah hollywood's been a cesspit for, what, a century? But it's produced great films anyway. Its hit rate may be worse now than at certain points last century but here's the thing, films are being made outside of that particular system. It's kinda on you if you only watch flying punchman movies. Whether good films still exist is kinda a side issue to the topic at hand tho
― good art is orange; great art is teal (wins), Saturday, 7 October 2017 16:33 (six years ago) link
Sorry on train, missed xposts. I'm against bill Clinton
― good art is orange; great art is teal (wins), Saturday, 7 October 2017 16:42 (six years ago) link
Dying
― passé aggresif (darraghmac), Saturday, 7 October 2017 16:42 (six years ago) link
lol sorry
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 7 October 2017 16:43 (six years ago) link
man Weinstein made "Velvet Goldmine" and "Princess Mononoke". those are two solid films.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 7 October 2017 16:44 (six years ago) link
"Holy Smoke" is really good.
yeah there are sickos in any profession it would be better for people to stand up against this. this is the big tragedy here, that many people knew about this and tolerated it because it was good for their careers. it is a selfish act. the internet is good here because now it is easier to get your story out, and seeing all these people come out after something like this drops, it shows that you are not alone. this must be encouraging, and is relatively a new hing, compared to the isolation of pre-internet social media.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 7 October 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link
Let me get this straight, you said Weinstein “made” Princess Mononoke.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 7 October 2017 16:55 (six years ago) link
How the hell hasn’t adbru gotten the 51 yet, I wonder to myself daily
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 7 October 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link
ha, I'd never heard this story
Miyazaki met with Harvey Weinstein, Miramax's chairman; Weinstein demanded that edits should be made to Princess Mononoke.[38] In response, Toshio Suzuki sent Weinstein a katana with a message stating "No cuts."[38]
― jmm, Saturday, 7 October 2017 17:07 (six years ago) link