http://leonardmaltin.com/blade-runner-2049-not-worth-the-wait/
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 October 2017 15:37 (six years ago) link
you cannot kill what does not live xp
― ATTACK MY RUSTY TOOLBOX (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 6 October 2017 15:41 (six years ago) link
damn, the writer seriously hates women.
the original wasn't especially nice to ladies either!
I can't believe this thread hasn't turned spoileriffic yet, that seems like a bad sign imo? I still want to see this in the theater
― El Tomboto, Friday, 6 October 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link
yeah, i was gonna say, the rachel/deckard sex scene in the original is uh problematic
― ATTACK MY RUSTY TOOLBOX (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 6 October 2017 15:51 (six years ago) link
to say the fucking least
i still don't understand why deckard suddenly gets all MAD THROWY AROUNDY
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 6 October 2017 16:31 (six years ago) link
replicants short circuit a bit sometimes
― nomar, Friday, 6 October 2017 16:32 (six years ago) link
like I LOVE YOU but I HATE YOU but I WANT TO KISS YOU but I'M THROWING YOU AGAINST THIS MOODILY LIT WALL
i dunno maybe it made sense in the 80s
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 6 October 2017 16:35 (six years ago) link
yes, the original was bad in this respect, but no, I didn't think in 2017 the director would say "you know what, we need to double down on that shit"
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Friday, 6 October 2017 16:47 (six years ago) link
because she's not a human, just a piece of machinery D U SEE
― Οὖτις, Friday, 6 October 2017 16:50 (six years ago) link
he's like a child, he doesn't understand these complex feels he's having. assuming he's a robot too.
― angelo irishagreementi (ledge), Friday, 6 October 2017 17:15 (six years ago) link
that too
fwiw it def is a weird and problematic scene but it does make some narrative sense
― Οὖτις, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:17 (six years ago) link
I think that's more easily explained by "it's a noir, and the main characters in those movies always push women around, to the woman's eventual delight"
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Friday, 6 October 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link
yes :(
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 6 October 2017 17:29 (six years ago) link
this line from the wikipedia plot summary of Cherry 2000 should entice those of you who have been putting off viewing that movie (which is set in the dystopian future of... 2017!):
As they enter Zone 7, they encounter Lester, a wasteland overlord with deranged subordinates.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Friday, 6 October 2017 19:17 (six years ago) link
Welcome to the world of in house IT support...
― Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 6 October 2017 20:15 (six years ago) link
the dystopian future of... 2017!
cherry 2000 otm
― ATTACK MY RUSTY TOOLBOX (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 6 October 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link
Cherry 2000 has a fucking awesome score by poledouris in which he said he was trying to blend 'Mozart morricone and moroder'
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Friday, 6 October 2017 20:36 (six years ago) link
is that why the trailer on youtube uses the score from Taxi Driver?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kckEEQKXaCU
― Οὖτις, Friday, 6 October 2017 20:38 (six years ago) link
Trailers are a whole other world
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Friday, 6 October 2017 20:42 (six years ago) link
right, this just seemed like a really weird choice to re-use a very famous score. don't get me wrong I will def hunt down a copy of this, looks v entertaining.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 6 October 2017 20:43 (six years ago) link
Just re-watched the original film after 29 years...It was worth the wait.
― Luna Schlosser, Friday, 6 October 2017 22:24 (six years ago) link
I liked this movie, butMild spoilers ensue
it suffers from the plot being spread out over so long. There’s a couple turns, and there is a tiny montage flashing through previous scenes that refreshes some connective tissue that wouldn’t have been necessary if it was tighter
Deakins is a complete animal, and it’s beautiful. The music isn’t too Zimmer but, surprisingly, there is one bit that reminds me of the tunnel sequence movie in Sicario, so there’s a glimmer of the idea Johansson was in mind. I really wonder if Ridley & co demanded something more straightforward, and the temp score track used some of Johannson’s other work, and Zimmer/Wallfisch ended up recreating the mood of the temp track while just making it more of a homage
― mh, Friday, 6 October 2017 22:31 (six years ago) link
cherry 2000 aint that good!
― kurt schwitterz, Friday, 6 October 2017 23:17 (six years ago) link
read an interview with Villeneuve where he basically said "love Johann, he's a genius blah blah blah, but his score wasn't Vangelis enough, so we brought in Hans to bring it back to the heart music"
make of that what you will
― Number None, Saturday, 7 October 2017 01:19 (six years ago) link
hrrrrrrm
― mh, Saturday, 7 October 2017 01:32 (six years ago) link
Listened to the score today - haven't seen the film - and it's exactly what I expected : a very precise, very loud pastiche of Vangelis' og score. A hack copy, if you will.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 7 October 2017 02:47 (six years ago) link
I liked this but the (spoilers) .............."we're building an army" moment was one that's definitely a tired trope by this point
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Saturday, 7 October 2017 02:53 (six years ago) link
the beach battle is dope af
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Saturday, 7 October 2017 02:54 (six years ago) link
I (mostly) loved this. There’s some clunkiness, especially in the third act, but overall it expands upon the world and themes of the original very nicely.
Also Jared Leto is barely in it so it works out alright.
― The Marmadook (latebloomer), Saturday, 7 October 2017 03:12 (six years ago) link
it's more fun if you basically think he's playing Jared Leto cos then the character seems doubly horrible
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Saturday, 7 October 2017 03:20 (six years ago) link
Saw it. Not bad. Would have been on board with the critics who called it a "masterpiece" if it featured Harrison Ford punching Jared Leto in the face.
― MarkoP, Saturday, 7 October 2017 04:18 (six years ago) link
hmmm
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 7 October 2017 05:22 (six years ago) link
not as bad as I feared but far from great. Sean young scene was bracingly weird.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 7 October 2017 05:23 (six years ago) link
It had no right being anywhere near that long. I love Mackenzie Davis but her and the uprising figures added nothing (beyond her part in the sex scene)
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 7 October 2017 05:39 (six years ago) link
pro - pretty movie, good sound, good costumes, good scenery, cool futurist ideas
con - bad script, bad acting, huge plot holes, tired story, predictable, jared leto, sexism, bad philosophical ideas
― the late great, Saturday, 7 October 2017 06:29 (six years ago) link
It is interesting that these pros/cons level with the og Blade Runner for the most part
― circa1916, Saturday, 7 October 2017 06:38 (six years ago) link
lol ok maybe not that last post, unsure, haven’t seen it, but the response from irl people lines up cleanly.
― circa1916, Saturday, 7 October 2017 06:43 (six years ago) link
I just watched Cherry 2000, and it's pretty hilarious how Blade Runner 2049 rips it off. It's debatable which one is the better movie. Cherry 2000 no question has better dialog.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Saturday, 7 October 2017 07:28 (six years ago) link
And Brion James is in it!
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Saturday, 7 October 2017 07:32 (six years ago) link
de Jarnatt's Miracle Mile is in my top 10 movies of the 80s for sure
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 7 October 2017 07:37 (six years ago) link
hahaha, that movie traumatized me when I watched it one weekend in junior high
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Saturday, 7 October 2017 07:53 (six years ago) link
also it stars Mare Winningham, who was in Turner and Hooch!
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Saturday, 7 October 2017 07:55 (six years ago) link
Where's the revival of films like Turner & Hooch, K-9 and Beethoven? I want to see people's lives disrupted by dogs.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 7 October 2017 09:13 (six years ago) link
I assume this is terrible and have no interest in it BUT for people saying how pretty it is: if one were in a city with both legal weed edibles and the largest cinema screen in the northern hemisphere - is it pretty enough to really ignore all the dumbness?
― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Saturday, 7 October 2017 10:11 (six years ago) link
I would say yes
― Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Saturday, 7 October 2017 15:29 (six years ago) link
xp
You just gotta get on its level
― Moodles, Saturday, 7 October 2017 15:33 (six years ago) link
idk I get the impression sic’s time is more valuable than ours, but I’d go for ityou might end up taking a little stoned nap for a while
― mh, Saturday, 7 October 2017 17:14 (six years ago) link
my god this movie would seem 17 years long stoned
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 7 October 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link
Saw it last night and enjoyed it.
Odd mistake in the NYT review:
‘when K visits an enigmatic mind-technician played by Mackenzie Davis’
Got disturbing memories of the matrix sequels with the “underground army” bits teased for future movies.
I kept trying to remember why the lead’s name of K was reminding me of something until I checked the IMDB trivia. “Joe K” = “Josef K”
Also, his crash pad really seemed to fit PKD’s constant term of “conapt”, didn’t it
― Hit to Death in the "Galactic Head" (kingfish), Saturday, 7 October 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link
de Jarnatt's /Miracle Mile/ is in my top 10 movies of the 80s for sure
― ATTACK MY RUSTY TOOLBOX (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 7 October 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link