The long overdue _Blade Runner_ thread

is that why the trailer on youtube uses the score from Taxi Driver?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kckEEQKXaCU

Trailers are a whole other world

right, this just seemed like a really weird choice to re-use a very famous score. don't get me wrong I will def hunt down a copy of this, looks v entertaining.

Just re-watched the original film after 29 years...It was worth the wait.

I liked this movie, but
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it suffers from the plot being spread out over so long. There’s a couple turns, and there is a tiny montage flashing through previous scenes that refreshes some connective tissue that wouldn’t have been necessary if it was tighter

Deakins is a complete animal, and it’s beautiful. The music isn’t too Zimmer but, surprisingly, there is one bit that reminds me of the tunnel sequence movie in Sicario, so there’s a glimmer of the idea Johansson was in mind. I really wonder if Ridley & co demanded something more straightforward, and the temp score track used some of Johannson’s other work, and Zimmer/Wallfisch ended up recreating the mood of the temp track while just making it more of a homage

cherry 2000 aint that good!

read an interview with Villeneuve where he basically said "love Johann, he's a genius blah blah blah, but his score wasn't Vangelis enough, so we brought in Hans to bring it back to the heart music"

make of that what you will

hrrrrrrm

Listened to the score today - haven't seen the film - and it's exactly what I expected : a very precise, very loud pastiche of Vangelis' og score. A hack copy, if you will.

I liked this but the (spoilers)
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."we're building an army" moment was one that's definitely a tired trope by this point

the beach battle is dope af

‪I (mostly) loved this. There’s some clunkiness, especially in the third act, but overall it expands upon the world and themes of the original very nicely.

Also Jared Leto is barely in it so it works out alright. ‬

it's more fun if you basically think he's playing Jared Leto cos then the character seems doubly horrible

Saw it. Not bad. Would have been on board with the critics who called it a "masterpiece" if it featured Harrison Ford punching Jared Leto in the face.

hmmm

not as bad as I feared but far from great. Sean young scene was bracingly weird.

It had no right being anywhere near that long. I love Mackenzie Davis but her and the uprising figures added nothing (beyond her part in the sex scene)

pro - pretty movie, good sound, good costumes, good scenery, cool futurist ideas

con - bad script, bad acting, huge plot holes, tired story, predictable, jared leto, sexism, bad philosophical ideas

It is interesting that these pros/cons level with the og Blade Runner for the most part

lol ok maybe not that last post, unsure, haven’t seen it, but the response from irl people lines up cleanly.

I just watched Cherry 2000, and it's pretty hilarious how Blade Runner 2049 rips it off. It's debatable which one is the better movie. Cherry 2000 no question has better dialog.

And Brion James is in it!

de Jarnatt's Miracle Mile is in my top 10 movies of the 80s for sure

hahaha, that movie traumatized me when I watched it one weekend in junior high

also it stars Mare Winningham, who was in Turner and Hooch!

Where's the revival of films like Turner & Hooch, K-9 and Beethoven? I want to see people's lives disrupted by dogs.

I assume this is terrible and have no interest in it BUT for people saying how pretty it is: if one were in a city with both legal weed edibles and the largest cinema screen in the northern hemisphere - is it pretty enough to really ignore all the dumbness?

I would say yes

xp

You just gotta get on its level

idk I get the impression sic’s time is more valuable than ours, but I’d go for it

you might end up taking a little stoned nap for a while

my god this movie would seem 17 years long stoned

Saw it last night and enjoyed it.

Odd mistake in the NYT review:

‘when K visits an enigmatic mind-technician played by Mackenzie Davis’

Got disturbing memories of the matrix sequels with the “underground army” bits teased for future movies.

I kept trying to remember why the lead’s name of K was reminding me of something until I checked the IMDB trivia. “Joe K” = “Josef K”

Also, his crash pad really seemed to fit PKD’s constant term of “conapt”, didn’t it

de Jarnatt's /Miracle Mile/ is in my top 10 movies of the 80s for sure

I saw it a couple of days ago! its really good. the seductive MTV sheen (and great soundtrack by Tangerine Dream) really suits it (trying not to give too much away here)

We're gonna be diamonds.

This was much better than I expected but I couldn't really see a good reason for the clunking Pale Fire reference?

Miracle Mile is great, i saw it in the early 90s and was amazed at such nihilism in a hollywood movie

Would have been funnier if it was a copy of Valis.

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Re: Pale Fire this is interesting:

https://medium.com/@mariabustillos/blade-runner-2049-is-revealed-through-the-novel-pale-fire-dd9f04768439

I love Maria Bustillos - among other things she wrote the greatest appreciation of Adventure Time we're ever likely to have - but I didn't really buy her argument there. Felt like unnecessary and distracting lit prestige chasing tbh.

yeah i'm not even sure there IS an argument there

Seen it tonight. There is some nice stuff in there but not nearly enough for the length of the film. Doesn't look as good or as realistic as the first film.

Main challenge with this shit is: do you have a writer as good as PKD? If not fuck off

calstars, i take you didn't like Blade Runner?

tbh i went in prepared to be miserable and totally enjoyed this. the pacing and atmosphere were right on, it looked and sounded great, the callbacks to the original (enhance... enhance...) came at the right times and the pygmalion story of an AI teaching a replicant to become a real boy was, if not tears in the rain good, sweet and touching.

i'm glad it ran as long as it did and contra to MH's take above, I actually felt the dots were underlined a little more heavily than necessary. def could have done without the Montage Of Clues recap. sure the Revolutionary Army was corny af but whatev.

and like always, fkn batista ruled.

PKD was an ok writer, great idea guy, great pulpy books

PKD was an ok writer, great idea guy, great pulpy books

― mh, Saturday, October 7, 2017

^^ bingo

I love the OG BR and the source.

Well this has the same writer as the first one

Or half at least