The long overdue _Blade Runner_ thread

hahaha, that movie traumatized me when I watched it one weekend in junior high

also it stars Mare Winningham, who was in Turner and Hooch!

Where's the revival of films like Turner & Hooch, K-9 and Beethoven? I want to see people's lives disrupted by dogs.

I assume this is terrible and have no interest in it BUT for people saying how pretty it is: if one were in a city with both legal weed edibles and the largest cinema screen in the northern hemisphere - is it pretty enough to really ignore all the dumbness?

I would say yes

xp

You just gotta get on its level

idk I get the impression sic’s time is more valuable than ours, but I’d go for it

you might end up taking a little stoned nap for a while

my god this movie would seem 17 years long stoned

Saw it last night and enjoyed it.

Odd mistake in the NYT review:

‘when K visits an enigmatic mind-technician played by Mackenzie Davis’

Got disturbing memories of the matrix sequels with the “underground army” bits teased for future movies.

I kept trying to remember why the lead’s name of K was reminding me of something until I checked the IMDB trivia. “Joe K” = “Josef K”

Also, his crash pad really seemed to fit PKD’s constant term of “conapt”, didn’t it

de Jarnatt's /Miracle Mile/ is in my top 10 movies of the 80s for sure

I saw it a couple of days ago! its really good. the seductive MTV sheen (and great soundtrack by Tangerine Dream) really suits it (trying not to give too much away here)

We're gonna be diamonds.

This was much better than I expected but I couldn't really see a good reason for the clunking Pale Fire reference?

Miracle Mile is great, i saw it in the early 90s and was amazed at such nihilism in a hollywood movie

Would have been funnier if it was a copy of Valis.

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Re: Pale Fire this is interesting:

https://medium.com/@mariabustillos/blade-runner-2049-is-revealed-through-the-novel-pale-fire-dd9f04768439

I love Maria Bustillos - among other things she wrote the greatest appreciation of Adventure Time we're ever likely to have - but I didn't really buy her argument there. Felt like unnecessary and distracting lit prestige chasing tbh.

yeah i'm not even sure there IS an argument there

Seen it tonight. There is some nice stuff in there but not nearly enough for the length of the film. Doesn't look as good or as realistic as the first film.

Main challenge with this shit is: do you have a writer as good as PKD? If not fuck off

calstars, i take you didn't like Blade Runner?

tbh i went in prepared to be miserable and totally enjoyed this. the pacing and atmosphere were right on, it looked and sounded great, the callbacks to the original (enhance... enhance...) came at the right times and the pygmalion story of an AI teaching a replicant to become a real boy was, if not tears in the rain good, sweet and touching.

i'm glad it ran as long as it did and contra to MH's take above, I actually felt the dots were underlined a little more heavily than necessary. def could have done without the Montage Of Clues recap. sure the Revolutionary Army was corny af but whatev.

and like always, fkn batista ruled.

PKD was an ok writer, great idea guy, great pulpy books

PKD was an ok writer, great idea guy, great pulpy books

― mh, Saturday, October 7, 2017

^^ bingo

I love the OG BR and the source.

Well this has the same writer as the first one

Or half at least

this looked dope in IMAX btw

re: treatment of women, it was a shame that every woman in this film was a naked hologram, a naked statue, a prostitute, a corrupt cop, or a slave" prior to the replicant army finally making their entrance. I passed much of that off to "capitalism and poverty are breeding grounds for cheap exploitation", and nothing was as gross as the Rachel love scene from the first movie thankfully.

I did love Luv though - down to her deliberate, shifting manner of speech. esp the moment where she...SPOILERS...
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executes Joshi (Robin Wright), the "You're so sure - cos he tooooolllld you" sing-songy mockery.

though there was the Dr who created the memories - liked her two short scenes

fwiw apparently Deakins has a forum on his own website and answers definitive version is the standard 2d version seen in a good theater

I went to the theater with recliner chairs for the first time and it was a little weird

hmm yes the doctor

the standard 2d version (I hate 3d) was loud af for a non-IMAX movie (I saw it once in standard 2d and once in IMAX). my buddy that saw it with me has a son on the spectrum and said there's no way he could have handled the sensory overload

also loved seeing Mackenzie Davis from the "San Junipero" ep of Black Mirror again - even if she wasn't given a ton to work with arc wise.

I am also a believer theaters are too goddamn loud, and I regularly feel ashamed by how loud I watch tv at home

me too although it's probably more a product of hearing loss due to the standard dose of metal concerts

i ahd one neighbor loudly bang on my door for how loud I was watching a kung fu movie

I’ve got an old house with thick walls, I should put more speakers in here

also loved seeing Mackenzie Davis from the "San Junipero" ep of Black Mirror again

watch Halt and Catch Fire (but feel free to skip s1)

Avon Barksdale too

I found this worth my time, but only just. I never felt it was in love with itself, which is a criticism I've seen more than once. Tries valiantly to capture and sustain the mood of the original, and comes closer than you'd expect. Ultimately the narrative doesn't satisfy, but you've seen a bunch of really cool stuff, so.

Script is not awful. Leto however, is. Not only viscerally unpleasant to have to watch (part of which is on purpose,as he is the villain) but the acting is horrendous. (The only instance of bad acting in the film imo). When he takes the screen its as if Leto has crashed your house party -- your brain scrambles to remedy the situation. I chose a restroom break for his second big scene towards the end, which a minute in had already stalled the film's momentum almost completely.

It's way too long. Sometimes thrilling, often "meditative", overall admirable.

Leto is like every method actor I ever worked with when I did theatre. it was obv he was giving a performance

he's like the dude that practices free throws for 4 hours and still shoots 56% from the line

(not to say I don't like him in general but after his Joker run it's fun to laugh at him)

Saw this yesterday afternoon.. Look great, though weirdly underpopulated. But incredibly boring, like an endless montage of soft pr0n and computer game cut scenes.

Saw this late last night (3D). I kinda liked the disregard for the original - this was a mere taking away of the pulp plot...which leaves you with a weird jumble of other SF films - anything from Solaris/Her (the r/ship with the hologram), to the memory creator (actually the most PKD-ish thing in here), to the matrix (setting up the inevitable sequel I will never watch). Harrison Ford really looked like shit (to the extent that I think he just looks like that everyday these days), i.e. great.

I didn't like the look of it in comparison to my memories of the original - kind of want to watch it again now to check.

The 'look' of this one deliberately differs from BR? 30 years on, planet's gone more downhill. (I read one review that went on about sea levels having risen, but I didn't actually notice that.) Whatever, it all looked stunning, especially the opening scenes and the garbage dump scene.

I didn't find this boring but it definitely dragged in places - with some cuts, this would have been great.

Minor quibble: wish the guns had resembled Deckard's blaster in the original more.

On Pale Fire, seems like it could be something to do with the Brian Boyd reading where (iirc), the spirit of the Hazel Shade (the dead daughter of the poet John Shade) is inhabiting Kinbote and authoring/inspiring the commentary. So Dr Stelline is Hazel, informing the deluded actions of Joe/Kinbote with her memories, as he investigates the original work of Ford/Deckard. I don't think that really works, but it could be intended.

I found this pretty, but a bit boring.

xp the gun Deckard uses in this one is a recreation of the original prop, I think? And K uses Deckard’s gun for the last section of the film.

There’s a YouTube video of prop nerd Adam Savage talking with a guy from the props team for this movie, if you’re interested. Not linking because we don’t need it embedded and geeking out over gun designs seems pretty wrong this week.

not to spoil who says this if it was said, but did i imagine the line, "YO YO YO, I'M THE BEST ROBOT!" shouted Duke of New York style?
also, it was odd how obtrusively the sony placement stuck out in a movie where there's a half-minute glamour pass of the atari logo.