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Did we work out why Pete Wylie was dressed like Dave Vanian that one time?

koogs, Saturday, 7 October 2017 16:37 (six years ago) link

This is my favourite podcast at the moment. Various ex-Melody Maker journos dissect a random episode of TOTP. Its hilarious

https://chartmusiccouk.wordpress.com/

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Saturday, 7 October 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link

yeah he joined Smokie then died in a tour bus crash in the mid 90s.

speaking of the 'pissed up Brits on holiday' demographic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMGNiAD-tMA

piscesx, Sunday, 8 October 2017 15:45 (six years ago) link

Did I mention I bought their first single?

Bohemian Rhapsody.

Mark G, Monday, 9 October 2017 06:34 (six years ago) link

Also I will never know how the fuck Black Lace ever became popular. I can only guess that the 'pissed up Brits on holiday' demographic is far larger than I thought.

Weren't here also smutty versions of a lot of their songs so while they might be singing Agadoo one TOTP, 'Ave A Screw was maybe what a lot of people were singing in their heads? So kind of subversive but in a really gross and rapey sort of way

plp will eat itself (NickB), Monday, 9 October 2017 07:19 (six years ago) link

Having a Gangbang has sort of eclipsed Agadoo as their legacy song I thought.

everything, Monday, 9 October 2017 07:39 (six years ago) link

Rugby songs on a package holiday basically, summer anthems for aspiring sex offenders

plp will eat itself (NickB), Monday, 9 October 2017 08:33 (six years ago) link

'Superman' somehow manages to be more annoying than 'Agadoo' ... it's still infuriating that when people think "'80s", they think of shit like Black Lace.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Monday, 9 October 2017 12:46 (six years ago) link

Thank fuck they're not showing the long format version of 'Blue Jean' as it's fuck awful.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 13 October 2017 18:37 (six years ago) link

Steve Wright, chimp par excellence for this sea of shit.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 13 October 2017 18:59 (six years ago) link

Now this is the version of the Stevie Wonder with the flying toast.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 13 October 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link

Aww fuck, I missed it!

Second part of the Nile doc and a funk doc on later will make up for it, though.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Friday, 13 October 2017 19:14 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Tuning in now and... *groans* ... Matt Bianco.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:34 (six years ago) link

Huh, that looks like Lord Voldemort in the video to Duran Duran's Wild Boys. That vocal remains utterly horrible. I like the video, though!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:39 (six years ago) link

xp a bunch of wankers

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:43 (six years ago) link

Bruno Brookes being asked if he's been eating magic mushrooms!?!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:43 (six years ago) link

Dave Stewart waa enjoying himself a lot in that Eurythmics vid, eh?

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:44 (six years ago) link

*was

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:44 (six years ago) link

Alvin Stardust not really sure what to do with his arms here.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:47 (six years ago) link

Someone in my year at school looked like Nick Kershaw and always got really pissed off when anyone mentioned it.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:51 (six years ago) link

Every time I see a Nik Kershaw performance on this show he always looks either confused or mildly annoyed... the lyrics to this are utter bollocks!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:51 (six years ago) link

I'll never get bored of this Chaka Khan track. Better than the Prince original!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:54 (six years ago) link

Nik Kershaw agrees:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Riddle_(Nik_Kershaw_song)#Lyrics
Kershaw has stated: "In short, 'The Riddle' is nonsense, rubbish, bollocks, the confused ramblings of an 80s popstar."

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:54 (six years ago) link

Hahaha!! I had no idea he hated it. He's completely right!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:56 (six years ago) link

He wrote Chesney Hawkes' 'The One And Only' and reportedly hated that as well.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:57 (six years ago) link

What's the answer to "The Riddle"?

It amazes me that people are still asking me this question. I spilled the beans a few years ago now so this isn't exactly news.

My producer (Peter Collins) came over to my house just before we commenced recording on the second album to hear how I was getting on with the writing. He went away saying he thought it sounded great but didn't think I had the first single. Incensed by this, I went straight up to the spare room and got the chords and melody together for the Riddle. This must've taken all of twenty minutes. Knowing time was short before we started recording I jotted down some jibberish with the intention of writing the real lyric as we were recording it.

About a week later we started recording and I threw a rough guide vocal down using the jibberish lyrics. As the album progressed, I tried various different lyric ideas but nothing seemed to fit as well as the guide lyric. So we decided to stick with what we had. "Let's call it the Riddle", I thought. Then people would think it was actually about something.

I had completely underestimated the fuss this would cause and, to make matters worse, the marketing and promotions people at MCA decided to make a competition out of it (without telling me). The response was unbelievable. We got sack loads of mail with elaborate and detailed analysis of the song. Line by line, word by word. Some were the size of small novels. Some even made sense!! People stopped me in the street to give me their thoughts and theories. On one occasion I arrived to do a live Radio 1 interview with a certain DJ only to find he'd told the great British public that I would be "revealing all" on his show. He was most put out when I wouldn't (couldn't) co-operate.

It all got a bit out of hand and, very quickly, passed the point at which I could come clean without pissing off a lot of people.

In short, "The Riddle" is nonsense, rubbish, bollocks, the confused ramblings of an 80's popstar.

Please forgive me. I knew not what I did.

^ okay, LOL!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link

ffs this Nick Heywood song goes on and on

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:34 (six years ago) link

Heh. I normally have all the time in the world for The Human League, but Billy Ocean is far the best thing that's happened on this episode so far!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link

Agreed. I don't understand how his career just stopped in the late '80s. He was still releasing records but no-one cared.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:42 (six years ago) link

You'd think that Murray Head would know the words.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:46 (six years ago) link

Actually I'd like to hear a John Peel cover version of 'One Night In Bangkok'.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:48 (six years ago) link

Fucking hell, Shakin' Stevens... truly bringing out the big guns this episode, eh!?

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:50 (six years ago) link

And now Shakin' Stevens' impersonation of a singer who gets voted off in the first live week of X Factor.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:50 (six years ago) link

I should have said this last time Nik was on, but christ he looks so uncomfortable holding that guitar!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:24 (six years ago) link

'80s Slade here with what can be best described as an audience participation number... I can think of another description for it, though!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link

Did they think this was going to take off as another seasonal staple a la 'Merry Xmas Everybody' or was this just the usual slab of Band Aid/Live Aid-era codswallop?

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:32 (six years ago) link

Ah Tina, finally some class.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:33 (six years ago) link

After some substandard '80s Kool and the Gang that didn't deliver on the promise of its title, Frankie Goes to Hollywood sound damn fucking excellent. Love this song.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:39 (six years ago) link

Seemingly every fucker on this episode is wearing one of those white "Feed The World" t-shirts... LOL at Alvin Stardust wear his on top of a non-more-mid '80s light blue long-sleeved button-up shirt.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link

ffs if Powell thought the video for 'Like A Virgin' was "provocative" fuck knows what he thought later.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link

Also I guess Alvin Stardust didn't have anything booked again this week?

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:51 (six years ago) link

Even at 10 years old childe snoball pegged Jim Diamond as coming over as a manipulative abusive creep in this song.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:53 (six years ago) link

Having the word Virgin in the title was provok in 1984

Xpost was that the point? 'I thought you'd understand' Oh Really?

Mark G, Friday, 10 November 2017 20:56 (six years ago) link

Looks like the rest of Black Lace had something else booked..

Mark G, Friday, 10 November 2017 20:57 (six years ago) link

I should have said this last time Nik was on, but christ he looks so uncomfortable holding that guitar!

Wasn't he one of those guys who was really a prog rocker, but ended up as a 'pop star' for a while? Like Howard Jones' and Kajagoogoo (not Limahl)? Or maybe it jazz fusion or something Nik Kershaw was into (and really wanted to be playing)?

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:58 (six years ago) link

Fuck, the way JD looked at the camera just then.
Also Black Lace, cheers for that. Actually I think there were only two of them and the rest were session musicians.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:58 (six years ago) link

I love how this episode reached it's absolute nadir at the very end, and this episode had 'The Riddle' being played throughout for some weird reason.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:58 (six years ago) link

You know how Goebells really really liked schlager music, and made sure that the German record industry during WW2 basically only produced schlager? So that that seemingly inoffensive light music was actually really political from then on? Well I've always thought that Black Lace are the kind of act that Goebells would have liked.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 10 November 2017 21:01 (six years ago) link

There used to be more. They were a Butlins band, their first single was "Bohemian Rhapsody", they may have been the first band I saw live..

Mark G, Friday, 10 November 2017 21:02 (six years ago) link


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