I saw it a couple of days ago! its really good. the seductive MTV sheen (and great soundtrack by Tangerine Dream) really suits it (trying not to give too much away here)
― Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Saturday, 7 October 2017 18:01 (six years ago) link
We're gonna be diamonds.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 7 October 2017 18:03 (six years ago) link
This was much better than I expected but I couldn't really see a good reason for the clunking Pale Fire reference?
― Stevie T, Saturday, 7 October 2017 18:45 (six years ago) link
Miracle Mile is great, i saw it in the early 90s and was amazed at such nihilism in a hollywood movie
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 7 October 2017 18:49 (six years ago) link
Would have been funnier if it was a copy of Valis.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Saturday, 7 October 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link
xpost
Re: Pale Fire this is interesting:
https://medium.com/@mariabustillos/blade-runner-2049-is-revealed-through-the-novel-pale-fire-dd9f04768439
― The Marmadook (latebloomer), Saturday, 7 October 2017 19:46 (six years ago) link
I love Maria Bustillos - among other things she wrote the greatest appreciation of Adventure Time we're ever likely to have - but I didn't really buy her argument there. Felt like unnecessary and distracting lit prestige chasing tbh.
― Stevie T, Saturday, 7 October 2017 19:59 (six years ago) link
yeah i'm not even sure there IS an argument there
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 7 October 2017 23:13 (six years ago) link
Seen it tonight. There is some nice stuff in there but not nearly enough for the length of the film. Doesn't look as good or as realistic as the first film.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 7 October 2017 23:14 (six years ago) link
Main challenge with this shit is: do you have a writer as good as PKD? If not fuck off
― calstars, Saturday, 7 October 2017 23:17 (six years ago) link
calstars, i take you didn't like Blade Runner?
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 7 October 2017 23:24 (six years ago) link
tbh i went in prepared to be miserable and totally enjoyed this. the pacing and atmosphere were right on, it looked and sounded great, the callbacks to the original (enhance... enhance...) came at the right times and the pygmalion story of an AI teaching a replicant to become a real boy was, if not tears in the rain good, sweet and touching.
i'm glad it ran as long as it did and contra to MH's take above, I actually felt the dots were underlined a little more heavily than necessary. def could have done without the Montage Of Clues recap. sure the Revolutionary Army was corny af but whatev.
and like always, fkn batista ruled.
PKD was an ok writer, great idea guy, great pulpy books
― mh, Saturday, 7 October 2017 23:45 (six years ago) link
― mh, Saturday, October 7, 2017
^^ bingo
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 7 October 2017 23:49 (six years ago) link
I love the OG BR and the source.
― calstars, Saturday, 7 October 2017 23:58 (six years ago) link
Well this has the same writer as the first one
Or half at least
― Number None, Saturday, 7 October 2017 23:59 (six years ago) link
this looked dope in IMAX btw
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 October 2017 00:48 (six years ago) link
re: treatment of women, it was a shame that every woman in this film was a naked hologram, a naked statue, a prostitute, a corrupt cop, or a slave" prior to the replicant army finally making their entrance. I passed much of that off to "capitalism and poverty are breeding grounds for cheap exploitation", and nothing was as gross as the Rachel love scene from the first movie thankfully.
I did love Luv though - down to her deliberate, shifting manner of speech. esp the moment where she...SPOILERS............ executes Joshi (Robin Wright), the "You're so sure - cos he tooooolllld you" sing-songy mockery.
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 October 2017 00:54 (six years ago) link
though there was the Dr who created the memories - liked her two short scenes
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 October 2017 00:55 (six years ago) link
fwiw apparently Deakins has a forum on his own website and answers definitive version is the standard 2d version seen in a good theater
I went to the theater with recliner chairs for the first time and it was a little weird
― mh, Sunday, 8 October 2017 00:56 (six years ago) link
hmm yes the doctor
the standard 2d version (I hate 3d) was loud af for a non-IMAX movie (I saw it once in standard 2d and once in IMAX). my buddy that saw it with me has a son on the spectrum and said there's no way he could have handled the sensory overload
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 October 2017 00:57 (six years ago) link
also loved seeing Mackenzie Davis from the "San Junipero" ep of Black Mirror again - even if she wasn't given a ton to work with arc wise.
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 October 2017 00:58 (six years ago) link
I am also a believer theaters are too goddamn loud, and I regularly feel ashamed by how loud I watch tv at home
― mh, Sunday, 8 October 2017 00:58 (six years ago) link
me too although it's probably more a product of hearing loss due to the standard dose of metal concerts
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 October 2017 00:59 (six years ago) link
i ahd one neighbor loudly bang on my door for how loud I was watching a kung fu movie
I’ve got an old house with thick walls, I should put more speakers in here
― mh, Sunday, 8 October 2017 01:00 (six years ago) link
also loved seeing Mackenzie Davis from the "San Junipero" ep of Black Mirror again
watch Halt and Catch Fire (but feel free to skip s1)
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 8 October 2017 01:12 (six years ago) link
Avon Barksdale too
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 8 October 2017 02:00 (six years ago) link
I found this worth my time, but only just. I never felt it was in love with itself, which is a criticism I've seen more than once. Tries valiantly to capture and sustain the mood of the original, and comes closer than you'd expect. Ultimately the narrative doesn't satisfy, but you've seen a bunch of really cool stuff, so.
Script is not awful. Leto however, is. Not only viscerally unpleasant to have to watch (part of which is on purpose,as he is the villain) but the acting is horrendous. (The only instance of bad acting in the film imo). When he takes the screen its as if Leto has crashed your house party -- your brain scrambles to remedy the situation. I chose a restroom break for his second big scene towards the end, which a minute in had already stalled the film's momentum almost completely.
It's way too long. Sometimes thrilling, often "meditative", overall admirable.
― rip van wanko, Sunday, 8 October 2017 02:08 (six years ago) link
Leto is like every method actor I ever worked with when I did theatre. it was obv he was giving a performance
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 October 2017 02:14 (six years ago) link
he's like the dude that practices free throws for 4 hours and still shoots 56% from the line
(not to say I don't like him in general but after his Joker run it's fun to laugh at him)
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 October 2017 02:15 (six years ago) link
Saw this yesterday afternoon.. Look great, though weirdly underpopulated. But incredibly boring, like an endless montage of soft pr0n and computer game cut scenes.
― Fizzles, Sunday, 8 October 2017 10:02 (six years ago) link
Saw this late last night (3D). I kinda liked the disregard for the original - this was a mere taking away of the pulp plot...which leaves you with a weird jumble of other SF films - anything from Solaris/Her (the r/ship with the hologram), to the memory creator (actually the most PKD-ish thing in here), to the matrix (setting up the inevitable sequel I will never watch). Harrison Ford really looked like shit (to the extent that I think he just looks like that everyday these days), i.e. great.
I didn't like the look of it in comparison to my memories of the original - kind of want to watch it again now to check.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 October 2017 10:42 (six years ago) link
The 'look' of this one deliberately differs from BR? 30 years on, planet's gone more downhill. (I read one review that went on about sea levels having risen, but I didn't actually notice that.) Whatever, it all looked stunning, especially the opening scenes and the garbage dump scene.
I didn't find this boring but it definitely dragged in places - with some cuts, this would have been great.
Minor quibble: wish the guns had resembled Deckard's blaster in the original more.
― Jeff W, Sunday, 8 October 2017 13:51 (six years ago) link
On Pale Fire, seems like it could be something to do with the Brian Boyd reading where (iirc), the spirit of the Hazel Shade (the dead daughter of the poet John Shade) is inhabiting Kinbote and authoring/inspiring the commentary. So Dr Stelline is Hazel, informing the deluded actions of Joe/Kinbote with her memories, as he investigates the original work of Ford/Deckard. I don't think that really works, but it could be intended.
I found this pretty, but a bit boring.
― woof, Sunday, 8 October 2017 14:01 (six years ago) link
xp the gun Deckard uses in this one is a recreation of the original prop, I think? And K uses Deckard’s gun for the last section of the film.
― mh, Sunday, 8 October 2017 15:41 (six years ago) link
There’s a YouTube video of prop nerd Adam Savage talking with a guy from the props team for this movie, if you’re interested. Not linking because we don’t need it embedded and geeking out over gun designs seems pretty wrong this week.
― mh, Sunday, 8 October 2017 15:49 (six years ago) link
not to spoil who says this if it was said, but did i imagine the line, "YO YO YO, I'M THE BEST ROBOT!" shouted Duke of New York style?also, it was odd how obtrusively the sony placement stuck out in a movie where there's a half-minute glamour pass of the atari logo.
― Philip Nunez, Sunday, 8 October 2017 16:11 (six years ago) link
Diageo too....lol that PanAm got phased out
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 October 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link
Atari may still exist but is no longer a commercial threat to Sony fyi
― rip van wanko, Sunday, 8 October 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link
I watched this last night. I liked the storyline but the audiovisual part didn't really do it for me. Like, in the Ridley Scott original everything was so beautifully done. The use of light was incredible, the costumes so out there, the music... They all worked together perfectly. Most of the settings here just looked expensive but uninspired. A few scenes hit the mark but overall it was a miss for me. I wonder how this would have looked in the hands of Nicolas Winding Refn or someone more visually oriented then Villeneuve.
― daavid, Sunday, 8 October 2017 18:17 (six years ago) link
huh, I guess like the original this one is bombing, too.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 8 October 2017 19:01 (six years ago) link
Daavid- I agree. If Refn sees The Incal through then that might be very close because it has a Blade Runner connection.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 8 October 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link
Interesting that the box office prediction was so off. I'm curious how many people in their teens and twenties have ever seen the original.
― jmm, Sunday, 8 October 2017 20:45 (six years ago) link
very weird tv spot for blade runner 2049 pic.twitter.com/DvZpLNYyAQ— demi adejuyigbe (@electrolemon) October 8, 2017
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 8 October 2017 20:47 (six years ago) link
demi strikes again
― mh, Sunday, 8 October 2017 20:58 (six years ago) link
Man what do I have to do to see a non-Marvel sci-fi movie in the theater this year before its utter bombness takes it away
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 8 October 2017 22:17 (six years ago) link
Also how did I miss that The Incal is being made into a movie?!?