The long overdue _Blade Runner_ thread

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Well this has the same writer as the first one

Or half at least

Number None, Saturday, 7 October 2017 23:59 (six years ago) link

this looked dope in IMAX btw

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 October 2017 00:48 (six years ago) link

re: treatment of women, it was a shame that every woman in this film was a naked hologram, a naked statue, a prostitute, a corrupt cop, or a slave" prior to the replicant army finally making their entrance. I passed much of that off to "capitalism and poverty are breeding grounds for cheap exploitation", and nothing was as gross as the Rachel love scene from the first movie thankfully.

I did love Luv though - down to her deliberate, shifting manner of speech. esp the moment where she...SPOILERS...
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executes Joshi (Robin Wright), the "You're so sure - cos he tooooolllld you" sing-songy mockery.

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 October 2017 00:54 (six years ago) link

though there was the Dr who created the memories - liked her two short scenes

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 October 2017 00:55 (six years ago) link

fwiw apparently Deakins has a forum on his own website and answers definitive version is the standard 2d version seen in a good theater

I went to the theater with recliner chairs for the first time and it was a little weird

mh, Sunday, 8 October 2017 00:56 (six years ago) link

hmm yes the doctor

mh, Sunday, 8 October 2017 00:56 (six years ago) link

the standard 2d version (I hate 3d) was loud af for a non-IMAX movie (I saw it once in standard 2d and once in IMAX). my buddy that saw it with me has a son on the spectrum and said there's no way he could have handled the sensory overload

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 October 2017 00:57 (six years ago) link

also loved seeing Mackenzie Davis from the "San Junipero" ep of Black Mirror again - even if she wasn't given a ton to work with arc wise.

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 October 2017 00:58 (six years ago) link

I am also a believer theaters are too goddamn loud, and I regularly feel ashamed by how loud I watch tv at home

mh, Sunday, 8 October 2017 00:58 (six years ago) link

me too although it's probably more a product of hearing loss due to the standard dose of metal concerts

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 October 2017 00:59 (six years ago) link

i ahd one neighbor loudly bang on my door for how loud I was watching a kung fu movie

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 October 2017 00:59 (six years ago) link

I’ve got an old house with thick walls, I should put more speakers in here

mh, Sunday, 8 October 2017 01:00 (six years ago) link

also loved seeing Mackenzie Davis from the "San Junipero" ep of Black Mirror again

watch Halt and Catch Fire (but feel free to skip s1)

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 8 October 2017 01:12 (six years ago) link

Avon Barksdale too

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 8 October 2017 02:00 (six years ago) link

I found this worth my time, but only just. I never felt it was in love with itself, which is a criticism I've seen more than once. Tries valiantly to capture and sustain the mood of the original, and comes closer than you'd expect. Ultimately the narrative doesn't satisfy, but you've seen a bunch of really cool stuff, so.

Script is not awful. Leto however, is. Not only viscerally unpleasant to have to watch (part of which is on purpose,as he is the villain) but the acting is horrendous. (The only instance of bad acting in the film imo). When he takes the screen its as if Leto has crashed your house party -- your brain scrambles to remedy the situation. I chose a restroom break for his second big scene towards the end, which a minute in had already stalled the film's momentum almost completely.

It's way too long. Sometimes thrilling, often "meditative", overall admirable.

rip van wanko, Sunday, 8 October 2017 02:08 (six years ago) link

Leto is like every method actor I ever worked with when I did theatre. it was obv he was giving a performance

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 October 2017 02:14 (six years ago) link

he's like the dude that practices free throws for 4 hours and still shoots 56% from the line

(not to say I don't like him in general but after his Joker run it's fun to laugh at him)

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 October 2017 02:15 (six years ago) link

Saw this yesterday afternoon.. Look great, though weirdly underpopulated. But incredibly boring, like an endless montage of soft pr0n and computer game cut scenes.

Fizzles, Sunday, 8 October 2017 10:02 (six years ago) link

Saw this late last night (3D). I kinda liked the disregard for the original - this was a mere taking away of the pulp plot...which leaves you with a weird jumble of other SF films - anything from Solaris/Her (the r/ship with the hologram), to the memory creator (actually the most PKD-ish thing in here), to the matrix (setting up the inevitable sequel I will never watch). Harrison Ford really looked like shit (to the extent that I think he just looks like that everyday these days), i.e. great.

I didn't like the look of it in comparison to my memories of the original - kind of want to watch it again now to check.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 October 2017 10:42 (six years ago) link

The 'look' of this one deliberately differs from BR? 30 years on, planet's gone more downhill. (I read one review that went on about sea levels having risen, but I didn't actually notice that.) Whatever, it all looked stunning, especially the opening scenes and the garbage dump scene.

I didn't find this boring but it definitely dragged in places - with some cuts, this would have been great.

Minor quibble: wish the guns had resembled Deckard's blaster in the original more.

Jeff W, Sunday, 8 October 2017 13:51 (six years ago) link

On Pale Fire, seems like it could be something to do with the Brian Boyd reading where (iirc), the spirit of the Hazel Shade (the dead daughter of the poet John Shade) is inhabiting Kinbote and authoring/inspiring the commentary. So Dr Stelline is Hazel, informing the deluded actions of Joe/Kinbote with her memories, as he investigates the original work of Ford/Deckard. I don't think that really works, but it could be intended.

I found this pretty, but a bit boring.

woof, Sunday, 8 October 2017 14:01 (six years ago) link

xp the gun Deckard uses in this one is a recreation of the original prop, I think? And K uses Deckard’s gun for the last section of the film.

mh, Sunday, 8 October 2017 15:41 (six years ago) link

There’s a YouTube video of prop nerd Adam Savage talking with a guy from the props team for this movie, if you’re interested. Not linking because we don’t need it embedded and geeking out over gun designs seems pretty wrong this week.

mh, Sunday, 8 October 2017 15:49 (six years ago) link

not to spoil who says this if it was said, but did i imagine the line, "YO YO YO, I'M THE BEST ROBOT!" shouted Duke of New York style?
also, it was odd how obtrusively the sony placement stuck out in a movie where there's a half-minute glamour pass of the atari logo.

Philip Nunez, Sunday, 8 October 2017 16:11 (six years ago) link

Diageo too....lol that PanAm got phased out

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 October 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link

Atari may still exist but is no longer a commercial threat to Sony fyi

rip van wanko, Sunday, 8 October 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link

I watched this last night. I liked the storyline but the audiovisual part didn't really do it for me. Like, in the Ridley Scott original everything was so beautifully done. The use of light was incredible, the costumes so out there, the music... They all worked together perfectly. Most of the settings here just looked expensive but uninspired. A few scenes hit the mark but overall it was a miss for me. I wonder how this would have looked in the hands of Nicolas Winding Refn or someone more visually oriented then Villeneuve.

daavid, Sunday, 8 October 2017 18:17 (six years ago) link

huh, I guess like the original this one is bombing, too.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 8 October 2017 19:01 (six years ago) link

Daavid- I agree. If Refn sees The Incal through then that might be very close because it has a Blade Runner connection.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 8 October 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link

Interesting that the box office prediction was so off. I'm curious how many people in their teens and twenties have ever seen the original.

jmm, Sunday, 8 October 2017 20:45 (six years ago) link

very weird tv spot for blade runner 2049 pic.twitter.com/DvZpLNYyAQ

— demi adejuyigbe (@electrolemon) October 8, 2017

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 8 October 2017 20:47 (six years ago) link

demi strikes again

mh, Sunday, 8 October 2017 20:58 (six years ago) link

Man what do I have to do to see a non-Marvel sci-fi movie in the theater this year before its utter bombness takes it away

El Tomboto, Sunday, 8 October 2017 22:17 (six years ago) link

Also how did I miss that The Incal is being made into a movie?!?

El Tomboto, Sunday, 8 October 2017 22:17 (six years ago) link

It's a strong possibility but I don't think it's actually happening.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 8 October 2017 22:31 (six years ago) link

Not sure Refn could secure that kind of money.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 8 October 2017 22:34 (six years ago) link

you've got to figure timing time affects box office, too. at the very least I was not able to see it this weekend because I couldn't find the time.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 8 October 2017 22:34 (six years ago) link

Wouldn't be surprised if this Blade Runner is the last unconventional big expensive sci-fi film America makes for a long time.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 8 October 2017 22:37 (six years ago) link

86% was over 25 showing that young adults were not excited enough for this old property to show up in large numbers.

there's your problem

jmm, Sunday, 8 October 2017 22:38 (six years ago) link

I say "unconventional" in a very low bar kind of way.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 8 October 2017 22:46 (six years ago) link

I had some errands to run so I took a Friday off work and went to the movie at 11am after dropping my car off to have new tires installed

Literally every other person in the theater (which, to be fair, was sparse at 11am on a friday) was a white man in his 30s/40s

mh, Sunday, 8 October 2017 22:54 (six years ago) link

I saw a fair amount of couples.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 8 October 2017 23:07 (six years ago) link

didn't the same guy literally just make Arrival, which was a hit?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 8 October 2017 23:22 (six years ago) link

Kind of don't even want to see the new one, I don't want my dope OG BR perspective expanded upon.

calstars, Sunday, 8 October 2017 23:23 (six years ago) link

I was at the third showing of the day yesterday and there were seven people in the theater's biggest room.

WilliamC, Sunday, 8 October 2017 23:28 (six years ago) link

Oh yeah, Annihilation is coming out too.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 8 October 2017 23:28 (six years ago) link

A replicant would pirate this shit

calstars, Sunday, 8 October 2017 23:36 (six years ago) link

Villeneuve's also doing Dune. Hopefully that will be unconventional.

jmm, Sunday, 8 October 2017 23:37 (six years ago) link

What's his long game anyway? BR2049 I can understand, but why a Dune reboot? Why not let Lynch' great flawed version and Jodorowsky's rest in peace?

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 8 October 2017 23:44 (six years ago) link

(*Jodorowski's failed attempt)

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 8 October 2017 23:45 (six years ago) link


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