The long overdue _Blade Runner_ thread

re: neuromancer

Neuromancer seems pretty simple, screen Johnny Mnemonic for the director and say "don't do this, any of this".

how dare u

It's like the Showgirls of sci-fi movies

if only that were true!!

Lol Showgirls is an actual masterpiece compared to Blade Runner

compared to anything

it is the only true film ever made and yet it bores me

as perfect things will

The reality:

Showgirls - 8/10
Blade runner 2049 - 6/10

Is what's boring!

i thought we were talking about johnny mnemonic being the showgirls of sci-fi movies

if that really is true then i guess i finally need to see johnny mnemonic

like immediately

speaking of long overdue

they're equally bad, but Showgirls is more eventful

30yo Keanu in a suit, tho

we were shocked to see this in a totally empty theater last night, which sucks for the production company, but ramified the ambiance of the film itself

Must be bittersweet for Sean Young to have been in her first big movie for a while but only being wanted involved as her younger self.

I liked this! I liked how it reversed the standard “am I a robot?” trope of science fiction and made it, “am I human?” (i.e., do I have a soul?)

Quite a lot of AI/Spielberg naffness in this. Hilarious enough to keep me from offing myself.

A critic I saw on Sunday had the DCP die 40 minutes from the end, and he was so, so grateful.

so I watched Cherry 2000 and chaki is right it's not *that* great, although it is def an interesting curio. The production design and mish-mash of ideas/styles are it's biggest strengths. The integratron looks great, the robot warehouse is total Ballard, the urban scenes all have clever/funny details. But the acting of the leads is godawful and Griffith is really terribly miscast, and the gender politics inherent in the premise are all glossed over in a p stupid way. Johnson and Carey's scenes are, predictably, the most appealing. Feels like it could have been really great in the hands of a better director and better leads but whatever.

I think my favorite is when he's driving out of town and there's a mileage sign with two destinations: GLORY HOLE 10 - RULE OF LAW ENDS 15

yeah that got a lol from me. a lot of funny details like that littered throughout. But Griffith is just not the actress to convey a hardboiled, tough-as-nails woman whose been kicking ass in the desert her whole life, her body language alone totally puts the lie to that. Charlize Theron or Jennifer Jason Leigh she is not. The lead guy is generally forgettable too. And that combo leaves a big vacuum at the center of the film.

agree there are a lot of good lines/dialogue in it. Johnson's "my character is about to die speech" is good.

I think the most generous description of Griffith's take on her character would be "unflappable". I would have had her making out with the main guy in the last scene and... twist! He short circuits because he is a sex robot too!

haha yeah narratively the film is not *that* clever

saw this tonight in a relatively packed theater

loved it. which surprised me! i had reservations going in, like in the back of mind though i love villeneuve i worried that with ridley not directing would ford muscle villeneuve into making the “guys deckard is totes a human” rebooted sequel...and of course i was concerned about leto

but it was really good. the storytelling was clean & simple & the pacing was impressive. the only time i noticed the run time was the end during the endless water fight scenes like GUYS CAN WE GO

villeneuve brought so much open space & weather & elements to the bladerunner world, those early sweeping landscapes of california 2049 were stunning. and some of the sets & locations were O_O

and hey, turns out gosling makes a great robot :D

thank u dave bautista for putting gosling through a wall <3

^^ this is the movie i saw, right down to the only moment that felt long... well okay that and the part where jared leto bondvillains harrison ford for like 45 minutes

i really liked it too. super slow, but so was the original. a beautiful movie, lots to absorb. could've been cut a bit for sure, but i was into it

i thought it looked great but entirely lacked charm. struggling to think of any memorable dialogue or characters, unlike the original. well leto was memorable but not for the right reasons. why exactly did he shiv that new replicant? it can't have been to demonstrate to luv that he's a crazy and dangerous guy since presumably she knew that already. maybe it was to demonstrate to us, in which case the motivation was the director's or the script's, not his own. oh well if this had been prometheus he'd just have said "i'm a crazy & dangerous guy!" so that's some improvement.

I am hoping to go and see this tonight. Having rewatched the original twice lately, I am expecting this to be better.

why exactly did he shiv that new replicant?

It’s implied that he’s been trying unsuccessfully to develop a replicant that can procreate. This particular replicant was just the latest failed attempt.

How was the storytelling good? Spent half of the time going wtf is this plot

The storytelling is not good in the original.

True but it had more going for it. Looked unique, great score..

It’s implied that he’s been trying unsuccessfully to develop a replicant that can procreate. This particular replicant was just the latest failed attempt.

didn't seem like she was given much of a chance!

Eyes, I just do eyes!
Nothing is worse than having an itch you can never scratch.
It's too bad she won't live! But then again, who does?
Home again home again jiggity jig! Gooood evening JF!

Any lines like this in the new one? Even "I need the old blade runner. I need your magic", doesn't look great on paper but the character makes it. Or how about Deckard playing the wheedling performers' agent in the strip club? K doesn't get up to anything like that.

The only sorta memorable lines come from Leto's Replicant henchwoman.

ah yes, "YO YO YO, I'M THE BEST ROBOT!" shouted Duke of New York style

Seeing this today, how many people will be in the theatre at 11:40 on a Wednesday?

You alone.

plus some sexy robots

Improvement on It no one wants to watch a film with sexy clowns

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/53/31/ce/5331ce571383ec266309af2a3b12dac1--daryl-hannah-fiction-movies.jpg

going to be that guy and admit i'm interested in watching Halt and Catch Fire now after realizing cuet replicant is in it

And she actually has a character of substance!

Why does K have a hologram girlfriend instead of a replicant girlfriend? They had sex bots back in 2019, Pris was one. Why can't K date one now? Clearly the replicant bodies aren't expensive to make, since Jared Leto eviscerates a newborn one without a second thought. For that matter, if you can swap hologram identities with little black boxes, why does it matter at all if K or Luv get physically destroyed? Can't you just download them into a new body? Surely they have cloud backups of their minds in case a piano falls on them.

Like surely K would have a spare K in his closet? Since he gets beat to shit every day at work.

Clearly the replicant bodies aren't expensive to make, since Jared Leto eviscerates a newborn one without a second thought.

― erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 16:53

Might be the kind of guy who destroys expensive things because he can.

i had a hard time getting past the plot holes in this

for example: someone hides something in a furnace and finds it ~20 years later. what, did they just decide to shut off the furnaces that day and leave them off forever?