Songs where the real hook is in the verse and the chorus is unmemorable by comparison

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J0rdan S., Monday, 9 October 2017 06:01 (six years ago) link

Oh another band where I usually love their verses but jate their main chorus:

The Police

They usually lock in these kickass grooves in the verses but they turn all awkward and pop-driven in the chorus.

See I’m quicker in thinking examples of bands that have choruses I hate with verses I love.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 9 October 2017 06:02 (six years ago) link

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No, they're equally well known. I seem to remember, for one, an episode of Family Guy referencing the chorus as part of the dialogue in one episode - none of the verses.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Monday, 9 October 2017 06:05 (six years ago) link

Like I said previously, I think Scritti's "Absolute" has the least memorable chorus most people will have to go play it and go "Oh, there it is.."

Mark G, Monday, 9 October 2017 06:41 (six years ago) link

"Friday I'm in Love" - The Cure

flappy bird, Monday, 9 October 2017 06:51 (six years ago) link

lol

President Keyes, Monday, 9 October 2017 12:38 (six years ago) link

yeah it does seem there are a number of ways to come at this thread. For instance, there are a ton of rap songs with memorable verses/lines and choruses that are just a title being repeated or a sample being scratched. Or a song like Springsteen's "Rosalita" where the chorus is catchy enough, but whose really memorable part is the verse about the record company giving him a big advance.

President Keyes, Monday, 9 October 2017 12:43 (six years ago) link

No, they're equally well known. I seem to remember, for one, an episode of Family Guy referencing the chorus as part of the dialogue in one episode - none of the verses.

and there's never ever been a time that somebody referenced the verses of I'm Too Sexy without referencing the chorus...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EA8MhCBTp4

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Monday, 9 October 2017 14:11 (six years ago) link

that's one of a million examples

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Monday, 9 October 2017 14:11 (six years ago) link

"Allentown"

Doctor Casino, Monday, 9 October 2017 14:12 (six years ago) link

'I'm Too Sexy' and 'Absolute' are both working off the title being the first word of verses rather than the chorus - there's a probably a whole 'nother thread for that but suddenly interested in much older examples.

nashwan, Monday, 9 October 2017 14:29 (six years ago) link

Yeah I guess there's a subset of this thread with songs where the song title and hook are the first word or line of the song.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Monday, 9 October 2017 14:33 (six years ago) link

The Police

They usually lock in these kickass grooves in the verses but they turn all awkward and pop-driven in the chorus.

'Invisible Sun' very much fits the bill.

Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 9 October 2017 14:36 (six years ago) link

some Pumpkins songs off the top of my head: Cherub Rock, Zero, Today, Pennies, Tonight Tonight, Galapagos, The Everlasting Gaze, Crush, Tristessa, I of the Mourning...

I agree with a lot of these but definitely not Cherub Rock. The "Who wants honey?" choruses and "Let me out" bridges are the best parts of the song!

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Monday, 9 October 2017 14:37 (six years ago) link

the lovely but obscure "Can You Heart Me Now" by Emmylou Harris. Chorus is just mortar to the verses' bricks

rip van wanko, Monday, 9 October 2017 14:51 (six years ago) link

Hear not Heart. The song is not about Twitter I promise

rip van wanko, Monday, 9 October 2017 14:52 (six years ago) link

Every other part of 'Hey Ya' is a bigger hook than the chorus.

Matt DC, Monday, 9 October 2017 14:53 (six years ago) link

Also I'm pretty sure that if you asked a sample of people to sing 'Irreplaceable' then more people would default to the "to the left, to the left" bit than the actual chorus.

Matt DC, Monday, 9 October 2017 15:02 (six years ago) link

Neil Young's "Heart of Gold" and "After the Gold Rush" come to mind.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Monday, 9 October 2017 15:04 (six years ago) link

/some Pumpkins songs off the top of my head: Cherub Rock, Zero, Today, Pennies, Tonight Tonight, Galapagos, The Everlasting Gaze, Crush, Tristessa, I of the Mourning.../

I agree with a lot of these but definitely not Cherub Rock. The "Who wants honey?" choruses and "Let me out" bridges are the best parts of the song!


Question isn’t which part is better, it’s which part is more memorable or well known. That octave chord verse riff is more well known than the choruses.

flappy bird, Monday, 9 October 2017 15:39 (six years ago) link

I legit can barely remember the chorus to the Breeders' "Cannonball" but I think most people remember that bouncing ball bass line in the verses.

President Keyes, Monday, 9 October 2017 15:43 (six years ago) link

good one. Hey Ya as well.

rip van wanko, Monday, 9 October 2017 15:44 (six years ago) link

David Bowie - Let's Dance

plp will eat itself (NickB), Monday, 9 October 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link

'Invisible Sun' very much fits the bill.

"Can't Stand Losing You" is the one I thought about first. What kind of chorus is that anyway.

frogbs, Monday, 9 October 2017 15:49 (six years ago) link

Let's Dance is the best answer yet.

Matt DC, Monday, 9 October 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link

Uptown Girl as well.

Matt DC, Monday, 9 October 2017 16:07 (six years ago) link

Let's Dance is the best answer yet.

― Matt DC, Monday, October 9, 2017 11:05 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I literally couldn't remember if this song even had a chorus and had to look it up.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Monday, 9 October 2017 16:09 (six years ago) link

Beatles - If I Needed Someone (seeing the "Had you come some other day" part as the chorus)

Valentijn, Monday, 9 October 2017 17:00 (six years ago) link

The Who - I Can See For Miles

^ both of these have awesome verses that really build in tension followed by disappointingly weedy choruses

― plp will eat itself (NickB), Saturday, October 7, 2017 6:46 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I always thought the chorus of "I Can See For Miles" was brilliantly soaring -- surely more memorable than the verses (which indeed build tension like crazy).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 9 October 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link

I like the verses to Pour Some Sugar on Me, kinda hate the chorus

rip van wanko, Monday, 9 October 2017 17:09 (six years ago) link

ah yes, what a hookless, forgotten chorus

Doctor Casino, Monday, 9 October 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link

read the original post. the criteria is merely verse > chorus

rip van wanko, Monday, 9 October 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link

a lot of grateful dead does this for me, they'll get a nice choogle going (bertha) or groove (eyes of the world) and then have a really lame chorus like they put it in because songs need to have choruses

global tetrahedron, Monday, 9 October 2017 17:47 (six years ago) link

Erykah Badu - ... & On

Week of Wonders (Ross), Monday, 9 October 2017 17:58 (six years ago) link

read the original post. the criteria is merely verse > chorus

― rip van wanko, Monday, October 9, 2017 12:45 PM (forty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes but it also says "unmemorable by comparison," which...well the song is called pour some sugar on me not hit me like a bomb

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Monday, 9 October 2017 18:30 (six years ago) link

or love is like a bomb

whatever.

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Monday, 9 October 2017 18:30 (six years ago) link

acually the "take the bottle" refrain is the strongest hook imo

rip van wanko, Monday, 9 October 2017 18:32 (six years ago) link

I suspect a lot of Smiths songs might qualify.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 October 2017 18:45 (six years ago) link

"This Charming Man" arguably does, if you consider the "a jumped-up pantry boy..." section to be the chorus.

JRN, Monday, 9 October 2017 18:56 (six years ago) link

a lot of Smiths songs have the primary hooks in the verses, or don't have choruses so much as variations on the verse melodies (Cemetry Gates, Boy with the Thorn in His Side, Barbarism Begins at Home, What She Said, How Soon is Now).

flappy bird, Monday, 9 October 2017 19:04 (six years ago) link

I mean "What She Said" is essentially a loop, save for the instrumental breaks at ~:48 & ~1:48

flappy bird, Monday, 9 October 2017 19:05 (six years ago) link

The Smiths have no hooks. Their music is just frantic rhythm guitar with Morissey sort of meandering between the third and fifth notes of the chord.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Monday, 9 October 2017 19:14 (six years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/aUy629N.gif

flappy bird, Monday, 9 October 2017 19:20 (six years ago) link

there is a light

rip van wanko, Monday, 9 October 2017 19:45 (six years ago) link

Girlfriend in a Coma for sure. “Do you really think she’ll pull through?” memorable but not as much as the verse. Though this may be an easy one because I think generally whatever section of the song has the title in it will be more memorable.

Another one: “Under Pressure”

flappy bird, Monday, 9 October 2017 20:08 (six years ago) link

thread title is more interesting to me than just "verse I like better than chorus" but clearly the tide is against me on this one

Doctor Casino, Monday, 9 October 2017 21:57 (six years ago) link

Def Leppard - "Photograph"

henry s, Monday, 9 October 2017 22:39 (six years ago) link

No

President Keyes, Monday, 9 October 2017 23:23 (six years ago) link

That has to be the single wrongest answer here!

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 01:11 (six years ago) link

WTF...the chorus to Photograph is the payoff!

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 08:03 (six years ago) link


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