good point NoTime, i just have some bad memories of Dusty under pressure.
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link
Scherzer was at 98 pitches not 74, which is why I made that point. Dusty will never use his setup guy or closer except in the 8th or 9th. That's going against the vet clutch hustler law of physics.
Madden is opposite, sometimes he gets too clever for his own good and the Cubs have a couple times bailed him out in big playoff games. Dude got spared being added to the goat pile big time last year in Game 7.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 00:08 (six years ago) link
98 pitches is a different ballgame, read the MLB app wrong.
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 00:11 (six years ago) link
would any manager pull their ace who's pitching a no hitter in a one run playoff game?
― na (NA), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 00:20 (six years ago) link
i think the problem is going to Sammy Solis in a tight situation, regardless of pitch counts or inning. there is 4 much much better relievers on the Nats squad.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 01:36 (six years ago) link
i agree that it's 20/20 hindsight, the guy had a bad hammy a few days ago
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 01:38 (six years ago) link
Amazing to think: Max Scherzer and Stephen Strasburg have both taken no-hitters into the seventh in this series -- and the Nats lost both.— Barry Svrluga (@barrysvrluga) October 10, 2017
― Andy K, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 01:53 (six years ago) link
it's supposed to rain all afternoon and evening here
― na (NA), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 13:47 (six years ago) link
Dusty being Dusty is giving up the tying and winning runs in the late innings without using your best relievers.
otm
otoh, i suppose farrell/hinch would have brought in strasburg
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 13:56 (six years ago) link
5:30 ET start time seems unprecedented when there is only one game
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 14:03 (six years ago) link
Forecasts for Chicago on Tuesday evening led MLB to establish the 4:38 p.m. local first pitch time at Wrigley Field.
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 14:20 (six years ago) link
OK thx
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 14:46 (six years ago) link
4-9pm forecast only a jot better than later on.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 16:38 (six years ago) link
Matz, espn:
The Accuweather forecast for Wrigley Field calls for a 70% chance of rain throughout the late afternoon and evening. If Game 4 of Nats/Cubs, (slated to start at 4:38 central) gets rained out, it would be rescheduled for Wednesday. If that happens, Game 1 starter Stephen Strasburg would be available on regular four days rest. Ditto for Chicago's Kyle Hendricks.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 16:41 (six years ago) link
Cameron exculpates Dusty
https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/in-defense-of-dusty-baker/
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 18:07 (six years ago) link
if they play, Heyward sits. And Dusty bats Bryce third.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link
That defense of Dusty is embarrassing. "Pitcher X wins that battle most of time" makes no sense because even the worst pitchers win 65% of the battles. It's not a reason to not have a better pitcher in the game. The manager gets blamed for the decision making process, not the results -- "it was a lucky bloop that fell in" doesn't get the manager off the hook for making a bad decision. John Kruk must have hacked into fangraphs or something.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 19:05 (six years ago) link
Margin of defeat for the Nationals' past 9 postseason losses, going back to 2012 NLDS Game 5.Nine losses by 12 total runs ... oof. pic.twitter.com/bdZGwp6gdX— Andrew Simon (@AndrewSimonMLB) October 10, 2017
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 19:32 (six years ago) link
even if they can play today it's going to be cold and damp, could be a messy game
― na (NA), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 20:44 (six years ago) link
looks awful dicey on the radar, they might play 4 innings til the skies open.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 20:48 (six years ago) link
NLDS Game 4 is officially in delay. MLB officials will meet at 4:30 pm CT and have an update after that. #Cubs— Carrie Muskat (@CarrieMuskat) October 10, 2017
― na (NA), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 21:08 (six years ago) link
Looks like there won't be a game today (which favours the Nats, I think, because they won't have to start Roark).
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 21:56 (six years ago) link
except...
Baker says Roark will start Wed for Nats vs #Cubs— Carrie Muskat (@CarrieMuskat) October 10, 2017
― na (NA), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 23:34 (six years ago) link
sounds good, Dusty, you gotta save Strasburg for game 5
― nomar, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 23:35 (six years ago) link
I mean we'll see I guess...
― na (NA), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 23:36 (six years ago) link
apparently strasburg has a cold or something?
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 23:38 (six years ago) link
Dusty said Strasburg did throw a bullpen today in anticipation of starting Thursday. So by time game was called, couldn't pitch tomorrow.— Chelsea Janes (@chelsea_janes) October 10, 2017
― na (NA), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 01:10 (six years ago) link
They didn't anticipate...today's weather?
― Andy K, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 01:22 (six years ago) link
the tone of this article is so obnoxious:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2017/10/10/stephen-strasburg-declines-game-4-start-after-rainout/752350001/
i get it, he's getting paid $175 million, he's expected to tough it out, etc. but these same sportswriters (and fans) will absolutely tear apart a manager over relatively minor things like not bringing in a lefty to face a lefty, benching a player based off of short sample sizes and PvP matchups, etc. everything in baseball is about trying to slightly change the odds that something will happen in an inherently unpredictable game. but when you have a player who knows he's going to incur the wrath of National Nation and still knows that it's better that he doesn't pitch, isn't it possible that he's actually REALLY SICK, and if he's really sick, isn't it better to turn to someone who is healthy? when i'm really sick i can't even check my email without fucking everything up, i can't imagine trying to strike anthony rizzo out during a make or break playoff game.
Nationals manager Dusty Baker tried to cover for Strasburg at their press conference, saying that Strasburg threw a bullpen session Tuesday and was simply unavailable.Only Strasburg actually threw his bullpen session Monday.He didn’t throw a pitch Tuesday.And decided, apparently, that he couldn’t go in Game 4.Unbelievable....“We have full confidence in Tanner,’’ Baker said.Yet he is not Stephen Strasburg.He is not a $175 million pitcher.He is not one of the faces of the franchise.There’s a reason why he was the Nationals’ fourth choice to start a playoff game.
Only Strasburg actually threw his bullpen session Monday.
He didn’t throw a pitch Tuesday.
And decided, apparently, that he couldn’t go in Game 4.
Unbelievable.
...“We have full confidence in Tanner,’’ Baker said.
Yet he is not Stephen Strasburg.
He is not a $175 million pitcher.
He is not one of the faces of the franchise.
There’s a reason why he was the Nationals’ fourth choice to start a playoff game.
hey Bob Nightengale on Twitter: FUCK OFF
Also you suck at writing
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 01:24 (six years ago) link
it's so dumb that I suspect gamesmanship
― na (NA), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 01:24 (six years ago) link
Also.
You suck.
At writing.
― qualx, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 01:26 (six years ago) link
maybe he gets a little dorito every time he hits enter twice in a row.
yum
i love it
there's cheese all over my keyboard
i can't stop
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 01:27 (six years ago) link
That reason is this:
He's trash.
Human filth.
His change up is a change down.
He misses bats so much he wants to see them more, so what does he do?
He gives up more hits. Intentionally.
He's in the pocket of big bat. And he's a pitcher.
― nomar, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 02:00 (six years ago) link
looool
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 02:45 (six years ago) link
I miss Plaschke variations.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 07:05 (six years ago) link
hmm the cubs are apparently sticking with arrieta too instead of jumping to hendricks. i know bullpenning is getting criticized these days but i'd be ok with hendricks being ready to come out of the bullpen if arrieta starts to struggle. he hasn't pitched a good game in a while.
― na (NA), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 14:10 (six years ago) link
Dusty goin' Moldy with these Strasburg excuses
Baker: "Alot of my team is under the weather with the change of weather, A/C, hotel...this is the time of year for mold around Chicago". pic.twitter.com/3dalgrTwLW— Erin Hawksworth (@ABC7Erin) October 10, 2017
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 14:28 (six years ago) link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/stephen-strasburg-and-nationals-commit-biggest-error-of-the-season/2017/10/11/fdcab2de-ae81-11e7-be94-fabb0f1e9ffb_story.html?utm_term=.5ee0fb43a5ac
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 14:49 (six years ago) link
hmmmm
https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/try-to-tell-the-difference-between-jake-arrieta-and-tanner-roark/
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 14:59 (six years ago) link
lol
BREAKING: Stephen Strasburg now likely to start for #Nats today in Game 4, source says. @MLB @MLBNetwork— Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) October 11, 2017
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:36 (six years ago) link
jake arrieta just caught a cold
― nomar, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:38 (six years ago) link
dusty playing the long con
― na (NA), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link
too weak to be a con (even apart from making his star pitcher look like a wimp). it's not like the cubs have to prepare for a different quarterback or something -- they just saw strasburg five days ago, they'll be ready for whomever
if dusty wanted to be vague he could have said 'strasburg has the flu; if he can go tomorrow he will, if not, then roark will.' this was just half-assedness
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link
It's of course a cliche that there's a Trump tweet for every occasion, but this is stretching the genre.... https://t.co/8NELAe0Hiu— Marc Fisher (@mffisher) October 11, 2017
― na (NA), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:23 (six years ago) link
https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/if-hes-under-the-weather-stephen-strasburg-shouldnt-pitch/
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 19:20 (six years ago) link
Nats BA in NLDS: .121 (11-for-91)Nats expected BA, based on Statcast exit velo/launch angle: .218 (~20-for-91)9 hits over 3 games— Andrew Simon (@AndrewSimonMLB) October 11, 2017
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 19:46 (six years ago) link
Somebody sent Strasburg a sexy-nurse singing-telegram message like in Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
― P as in pterodactyl (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link
def not looking that sick
batting Werth 2nd is dumb tho
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link
strikes out the side for a SHUTDOWN INNING
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 21:22 (six years ago) link
nice bunt
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 21:35 (six years ago) link