Weinsteins step down as Miramax CEOs

is there a rule that every thread on this board must turn into a protracted argument about Hillary Clinton or something

^^^^^

Like, if you find yourself nodding along with Chris Cilizza, take a step back and reassess where you went wrong.

xp Don't make me pull an "I happen to have Marshall McLuhan right here" in re Lewinsky. She's been pretty upfront about her role and neither you nor I are in a position to gainsay her.

Anyway, Morbs still stans for both Allen and Polanski as artists so.

i'm sorry, I can't get over the fact that David Sylvian chimed in on this on Twitter with the word 'fucker'. What a weird world this is.

Wagner wrote some pretty fair music.

I've said repeatedly that Allen hasn't made a good film in 20 years, so piss off.

xp

wait till NRO cites David Sylvian – then it's a weird world

wow, i've never seen a tweet sweat before https://t.co/3PmQG6FkUS

— Kelly Weill (@KELLYWEILL) October 10, 2017

PROVABLY at worst.

Virtually none of what's being discussed here is "provable" in a legal context so that's a bullshit framing

always believe the woman (unless she's talking about Bill Clinton)

wonder if there's any chance of criminal charges against Weinstein

imo this is definitely going to happen i wouldn't be shocked if he fled the country

xp that's fair enough, so I'll also just say that it was hard *at the time* to separate the signal from the noise re: Bill Clinton accusers given the poisonous atmosphere of political hit pieces against him -- drug trafficking, assassinations, and all that garbage. Bill Clinton probably did harass Jones and Willey. Broaddrick appears to have gone bonkers, so who knows with her.

🐦[wow, i’ve never seen a tweet sweat before https://t.co/3PmQG6FkUS🕸
— Kelly Weill (@KELLYWEILL) October 10, 2017🕸]🐦

Donna Karan checkin' in

"You look at everything all over the world today and how women are dressing and what they are asking by just presenting themselves the way they do. What are they asking for? Trouble."

"I don't think it's only Harvey Weinstein. I don't think we're only looking at him. I think we're looking at a world much deeper than that. Yes, I think he's being looked at right now as a symbol, not necessarily as him. I know his wife, I think they're wonderful people, Harvey has done some amazing things...."

http://gothamist.com/2017/10/10/donna_karan_harvey_weinste.php

/wonder if there's any chance of criminal charges against Weinstein/

imo this is definitely going to happen i wouldn't be shocked if he fled the country

yeah Karan stepped in that big time. Expect boycotts of her shit.

grotesque producer accused of raping beloved starlets & seems like tons of testimonies now. he can't buy his way out of this.

grotesque producer accused of raping beloved starlets & seems like tons of testimonies now. he can't buy his way out of this.

he's already been sacked, I'd be surprised if there are any more formal steps taken. either way, he's just one of scores.

Yeah HW is definitely not the exception to the rule wrt Hollywood producers im guessing

What's Bryan Singer got on his docket lately?

we're getting to the point (or getting to yet another point) where people who put the blinders on when they get to a certain age or position are having to wake the fuck up and realize they're complicit in things

the entire "oh but X did Y in 1990!" argument is bullshit because yeah, people should have been better about things thing, and being complicit then or deeming something socially tolerable nearly thirty years ago doesn't mean rolling on with that in 2017 is still going to fly

the short version is that people have assuming such casting couch arrangements, even when it's rape and not tacit quid pro quo, are just the cost of doing business. and, frankly, no.

tbrr the idea that hollywood includes all this shit as a matter of course and it's lurid tabloid material has propped up Weinstein more than hurt him, if you go by the anecdotes about his people dropping leads to the press

Anyway, Morbs still stans for both Allen and Polanski as artists so.

― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Tuesday, October 10, 2017 2:50 PM (thirty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm on the record eviscerating Woody Allen fwiw

If various celebrities and politicians want to claim they knew nothing about the sexual assault allegations, I guess that's fine, there's a lot coming out about that now that maybe wasn't fully vocalized in the past. But anyone that was pals with Weinstein or happily took his money at least knew that he was a horrible person. I knew this and I know next to nothing about the movie biz.

From Terry Crews's Twitter -- he didn't thread these, but start here and scroll up:

This whole thing with Harvey Weinstein is giving me PTSD. Why? Because this kind of thing happened to ME. (1/Cont.)

— terrycrews (@terrycrews) October 10, 2017

kinda hard to work in that sphere while avoiding horrible people entirely. If you worked in nightclubs up through the '50s, you worked for gangsters, period.

I have to imagine if you grab at Terry Crews like that, you are secretly hoping to be flattened.

or expressing just how much power you perceive yourself to possess

^^^

tom cruise should have known better than to do that to terry crews. did he think he could get away with that because their names are pronounced the same?

I mean, that at least helps put the lie to the entire "if it was me I'd punch the guy or fight back" bullshit

the default human reaction for sexual harassment from someone you've met isn't some "oh shit, better fight back" reaction, especially if it's among a group of your peers and people with power

JFC no, it's not
anyone who thinks that is living in a magical imaginary world

it's almost like the common denominator is power, which is primarily held in money

and men

yes

Rose McGowan is absolutely fierce on Twitter today. She's called out Affleck as a liar, claiming he absolutely knew about Weinstein, and she's started a petition calling for the entire TWC board to be dissolved.

she's fantastic

Tarantino still hasn't said a word, has he.

I am sure he has said many, many words but none publicly

he was talking about how he shivered when he heard the news and wanted to find out more about it

What a great job Andy Muschetti has done in IT. It made me shiver. What other interesting things does Argentina have?

— Quentin Tarantino (@qtarantino) October 9, 2017

sorry i misread that

Amazing.

Weinstein's wife is splitting

http://people.com/movies/harvey-weinstein-wife-georgina-chapman-separating/

Fired Weinsteins because they were irresponsible, and Harvey was an incorrigible bully. Had no idea he was capable of these horrible actions

— Michael Eisner (@Michael_Eisner) October 10, 2017

I needed a laugh, thank you https://t.co/qXDWYXZmkU

— rose mcgowan (@rosemcgowan) October 10, 2017

Its interesting to read that Brad Pitt got up in Weinsteins face after he harrassed Gwynneth P, and said "touch her again and there'll be trouble" and it seems that worked. Why didnt more men do this?

found this on rose mcgowan's twitter (thank you, i don't follow actors because they blab too much but i like her)

http://www.vulture.com/2017/10/damon-affleck-father-of-daughters-excuse-harvey-weinstein.html?utm_campaign=vulture&utm_source=tw&utm_medium=s1

zing!

Having a daughter shouldn’t be a requirement for internalizing the problems of working within a sexist industry. Your wives gave birth to a baby girl, not a moral compass.

xp - trayce many of them need to have a daughter first

sadlol

LL - god. Sad but true :(

hate to say it but Pitt was probably one of the few actors who could have done it and a lot of these women were alone in their fight and didn't feel like they had the backup, probably. Jolie decided to not work with him ever again, and looking at IMDb it appears as though Pitt himself worked on only three projects associated w/Weinstein and only on one where he was more than a cameo (Inglorious Basterds, which was likely a film where he wouldn't have had to deal w/Weinstein, since Tarantino has final cut.)

Its interesting to read that Brad Pitt got up in Weinsteins face after he harrassed Gwynneth P, and said "touch her again and there'll be trouble" and it seems that worked. Why didnt more men do this?

Most of them, if they even knew, didn't have Pitt's juice. And frankly he could have done more. xp

I feel like another issue with Hollywood is that SO MANY people in it are motherfuckers who treat people like shit - in a sexual way or otherwise. People don't go out and denounce it because everyone is doing it.

well we don't know what he tried to do or didn't do...we also don't know what Paltrow told him at the time, she may have said look let's just drop it, he won't mess with me again.

i have a friend who was recently the victim of unwanted sexual advances from an acquaintance/neighbor of ours (she considered it to have stopped short of anything criminal) and when i told her i was ready to cross the street and have a conversation about it, she asked me not to. we all simply cut him out of our lives and told everyone we knew to steer clear.