Weinsteins step down as Miramax CEOs

LL - god. Sad but true :(

hate to say it but Pitt was probably one of the few actors who could have done it and a lot of these women were alone in their fight and didn't feel like they had the backup, probably. Jolie decided to not work with him ever again, and looking at IMDb it appears as though Pitt himself worked on only three projects associated w/Weinstein and only on one where he was more than a cameo (Inglorious Basterds, which was likely a film where he wouldn't have had to deal w/Weinstein, since Tarantino has final cut.)

Its interesting to read that Brad Pitt got up in Weinsteins face after he harrassed Gwynneth P, and said "touch her again and there'll be trouble" and it seems that worked. Why didnt more men do this?

Most of them, if they even knew, didn't have Pitt's juice. And frankly he could have done more. xp

I feel like another issue with Hollywood is that SO MANY people in it are motherfuckers who treat people like shit - in a sexual way or otherwise. People don't go out and denounce it because everyone is doing it.

well we don't know what he tried to do or didn't do...we also don't know what Paltrow told him at the time, she may have said look let's just drop it, he won't mess with me again.

i have a friend who was recently the victim of unwanted sexual advances from an acquaintance/neighbor of ours (she considered it to have stopped short of anything criminal) and when i told her i was ready to cross the street and have a conversation about it, she asked me not to. we all simply cut him out of our lives and told everyone we knew to steer clear.

You're right, and it's folly to say "x/ally/whoever could have done more" on an individual level but it is galling, if not exactly surprising, that it took this long for the dam to break. As the piece I linked put it, this would not even have happened if HW still had the pull and power he used to.

Why Farrow went to the New Yorker

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/nbc-harvey-weinstein-investigation_us_59dd2739e4b04fc4e1e96d08?7d5

'concerns related to the story’s sourcing' lol

jingleberries is also right, weinstein is probably one of the worst offenders but the industry is full of a lot of creeps and cheaters and abusers. this isn't specific to hollywood but it's so unregulated, there are so many people at high levels who can use their influence to get what they want to so many low level people who pretend to have influence to get what they want, or worse yet and more accurately both will TAKE what they want.

and nobody stops them and everyone is taking notes for how theyre going to fuck everyone over when its their turn in charge

The use of NDAs in all of this is scary. They seem like way too powerful a means for a rich abuser to keep individual victims from knowing about each other and building a critical mass of accusations.

How enforceable are NDAs when they cover criminal activity, though?

I'm still flabbergasted that Trump can be recorded admitting to sexual assault, a dozen women can come forward to accuse him of it, and yet nothing happens - in fact worse than nothing happens, and the majority of white women actually vote for him. I guess Weinstein should run for president.

nomar otm, Terence Howard is on a top rated TV show every week , Casey Affleck has an Oscar, etc.

"Hi, Roman? Gotta place to crash?"

Harvey Weinstein Flying to Europe Tonight for Sex Addiction Rehab https://t.co/uxgQPYxTpT

— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) October 10, 2017

Good luck changing any of this on a systemic level as long as extreme wealth exists. Until then it's Whack-an-Asshole.

Lol @ whack-an-asshole

Otm tho. Shit is systemic in the industry, since its founding.

It's definitely something that happens in every industry but entertainment has a special combination of huge amounts of money and vulnerable physically attractive young people who are desperate and don't have bargaining power.

it's tragic how a nothing human like this guy can cut such a swath through a whole generation of talented actors who are left traumatized. i mean clearly some were run completely from the industry or left as a result, and some are still wrecked by it.

a special combination of huge amounts of money and vulnerable physically attractive young people who are desperate and don't have bargaining power

this is every industry. this particular manifestation is particularly horrible and upsetting but at the end of the day it's just another form of exploitation.

Undeniable, but I don’t think that post was incorrect.

Heather Graham has a story:

In the early 2000s Harvey Weinstein called me into his office. There was a pile of scripts sitting on his desk. “I want to put you in one of my movies,” he said and offered to let me choose which one I liked best. Later in the conversation, he mentioned that he had an agreement with his wife. He could sleep with whomever he wanted when he was out of town. I walked out of the meeting feeling uneasy. There was no explicit mention that to star in one of those films I had to sleep with him, but the subtext was there.

A few weeks later, I was asked to do a follow-up meeting at his hotel. I called one of my actress friends to explain my discomfort with the situation, and she offered to come with me. En route, she called me to say she couldn’t make it. Not wanting to be at the hotel alone with him, I made up an excuse — I had an early morning and would have to postpone. Harvey told me that my actress friend was already at his hotel and that both of them would be very disappointed if I didn’t show. I knew he was lying, so I politely and apologetically reiterated that I could no longer come by.

That was the end of that encounter — I was never hired for one of his films, and I didn’t speak up about my experience. It wasn’t until Ashley Judd heroically shared her story a few days ago that I felt ashamed. If I had spoken up a decade ago, would I have saved countless women from the same experience I had or worse?

The question — and this is not an excuse — is what defines sexual harassment in the workplace? He didn’t explicitly offer a trade — sex for work — even though I knew that was what he was implying. And I hadn’t gone to his hotel. I know this is an inner dialogue many women have — it’s part of what’s holding so many of us back from sharing our stories. We don’t want to be attacked for reading into something that may or may not have been there. We don’t want to be looked at as weak for not being able to handle ourselves in a business run by men. We don’t want to lose work by being defined as a Difficult Woman. We don’t want to be the first or only voice in the room.

My hope is that this moment starts a dialogue on redefining sexual harassment in the workplace and empowers women to speak out when they feel uncomfortable in a situation. I hope that dialogue covers the gray areas where we ask ourselves, “Did what I think happen just happen?” and that we are no longer shamed into feeling that we should grow a thicker skin, or that our story “isn’t good enough to count.” I’m glad the victims are being heard, that powerful voices in the industry are speaking up to say this kind of behavior isn’t acceptable anymore, and that a predator is finally facing the consequences — it means the world is starting to change for the better.

While I still do feel guilty for not speaking up all those years ago, I’m glad for this moment of reckoning. To the countless other women who have experienced the gray areas: I believe you.

Undeniable, but I don’t think that post was incorrect.

Not at all.

It happened in a firm in my niche, female friends of mine worked there (and gladly left ASAP). I don't know whether it was well known outside that firm or not but people within certainly knew and looked the other way (not referring to my female friends who didn't have much power).

Judy Garland was molested by MGM executives in the '30s, I think.

this entire podcast is basically about hollywood being built on exploiting women (and its fucking excellent)

http://www.youmustrememberthispodcast.com/

Yeah i was referring specifically to hollywood, which is actually historically worse than a lot of other industries in this respect imo.

Xp

I would guess the modelling industry is similar, but it's that combination of a field that many more want to get into than can, and the fact that they are young and attractive that makes it so prevalent.

Joining the ranks of celebrities chiming in on the Harvey Weinstein scandal, Lindsay Lohan took to her Instagram account to give her two cents — not to speak out against the Hollywood executive, but to defend him.

She made an Instagram story saying, “I feel very bad for Harvey Weinstein right now. I don’t think it’s right what’s going on.” She added, “He’s never harmed me or did anything to me – we’ve done several movies together. I think everyone needs to stop – I think it’s wrong. So stand up.”

She also addressed Georgina Chapman, who recently announced that she is leaving Weinstein, saying that Chapman needed to “take a stand and be there for her husband.” The message was deleted soon after it was posted.

Applause for Heather Graham there - good to publicly broaden the scope of what this can look like, and the detail of HW lying about her friend being there is especially good/gross to add to the 'nothing SPECIFICALLY stated' assault / masturbation / rape accounts, that already painted a picture of his full awareness vs "the times" he grew up in.

also:

No way he flees the country, dude does not have a French passport like Polanski.

wonder if Fabrizio Lombardo has booked this rehab for him

look, if you're gonna do PR-mandated sex rehab, you gotta do it in europe. it's just not the same in the states. everyone should do it at least once before they die, there's nothing else like it.

personally, i took a gap year before NYU just to do PR-mandated sex rehab in amsterdam

See, I was too poor for that. I had to have American PR-Mandated Sex Rehab.

I guess Weinstein should run for president.

Perfect way for the Democrats to beat Trump.

My dad continues to be the coolest 72-year-old Army vet I know. After I posted something on FB about this today, he posted this reply:

When I was in the Army at Ft. Leonard Wood there was a rash of sexual abuse involving female trainees and drill sergeants (DIs). All officers were told to get on top of this problem and provide their NCOs with clear cut guidance on things that were both socially taboo and against Army regulations. I got all of my DIs together for a quick briefing. I kept it simple. I asked them if they would say "good morning PVT. Joe Snuffy, what pretty blue eyes you have." They all laughed and said, "of course not, sir." To which I replied, "good, don't say it to PVT Mary Jones either." Then I went on to explain how easy it is to over reach your position of authority and I wouldn't tolerate it. Although I was the officer in charge, I had been an NCO for 12 years of my career and heard and saw plenty. They didn't know my background.

I suspect that if he ever saw someone either in the military or in his civilian career under his authority who was doing something as rancid as Weinstein, he might have skipped the talk and just beat the ever-loving shit out of them.

I know sex addiction is a real thing, but it's remarkable how many harassers/assaulters suddenly realize they have it only when they are publicly accused of harassment and assault.

lol @ Pvt. Joe Snuffy

Hey, don't disrespect our vets.

http://oldtimemoviesandradio.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/private-snuffy-smith-e1500040681289.jpg

Ben Affleck Is Accused of Groping Actress Hilarie Burton

And on it goes.

I just received this statement from @Caradelevingne detailing her experience with Harvey Weinstein. Thank you, Cara. pic.twitter.com/SA1D05lYH4

— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) October 11, 2017

Grosser and grosser

i want people to go harder after Page Six, check this hit piece from 2015. Four people used to try to take down the legitimate claim by Ambra Battilana Gutierrez.

https://pagesix.com/2015/03/31/model-who-accused-weinstein-of-molestation-attends-show-with-tickets-he-gave-her/?_ga=2.106979778.134139512.1507701913-1469455140.1432402142

that Delevingne statement is so creepy

yeah the assistant saying "you're car won't be here for a while you should go to his room". love to aid and abet sexual assault and harassment for a living.

but also like he obviously is so premeditated and carefully planned with his gross schemes. has the staff working on it.

Any idea which film and director she's referring to in that story?

It occurs to me that Weinstein didn't even have the normal idiot excuse of being a complete drunk

which is not at all an excuse, it just makes you look like a well-rounded trainwreck of a douche

i believe she's talking about Tulip Fever directed by Justin Chadwick. Filmed in 2014, released in 2017.