Weinsteins step down as Miramax CEOs

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I guess Weinstein should run for president.

Perfect way for the Democrats to beat Trump.

Tom's Tits Experiment (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 09:46 (six years ago) link

My dad continues to be the coolest 72-year-old Army vet I know. After I posted something on FB about this today, he posted this reply:

When I was in the Army at Ft. Leonard Wood there was a rash of sexual abuse involving female trainees and drill sergeants (DIs). All officers were told to get on top of this problem and provide their NCOs with clear cut guidance on things that were both socially taboo and against Army regulations. I got all of my DIs together for a quick briefing. I kept it simple. I asked them if they would say "good morning PVT. Joe Snuffy, what pretty blue eyes you have." They all laughed and said, "of course not, sir." To which I replied, "good, don't say it to PVT Mary Jones either." Then I went on to explain how easy it is to over reach your position of authority and I wouldn't tolerate it. Although I was the officer in charge, I had been an NCO for 12 years of my career and heard and saw plenty. They didn't know my background.

I suspect that if he ever saw someone either in the military or in his civilian career under his authority who was doing something as rancid as Weinstein, he might have skipped the talk and just beat the ever-loving shit out of them.

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 16:45 (six years ago) link

I know sex addiction is a real thing, but it's remarkable how many harassers/assaulters suddenly realize they have it only when they are publicly accused of harassment and assault.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 16:48 (six years ago) link

lol @ Pvt. Joe Snuffy

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 16:50 (six years ago) link

Hey, don't disrespect our vets.

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 16:57 (six years ago) link

Ben Affleck Is Accused of Groping Actress Hilarie Burton

flappy bird, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:17 (six years ago) link

And on it goes.

I just received this statement from @Caradelevingne detailing her experience with Harvey Weinstein. Thank you, Cara. pic.twitter.com/SA1D05lYH4

— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) October 11, 2017

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link

Grosser and grosser

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link

i want people to go harder after Page Six, check this hit piece from 2015. Four people used to try to take down the legitimate claim by Ambra Battilana Gutierrez.

https://pagesix.com/2015/03/31/model-who-accused-weinstein-of-molestation-attends-show-with-tickets-he-gave-her/?_ga=2.106979778.134139512.1507701913-1469455140.1432402142

nomar, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:41 (six years ago) link

that Delevingne statement is so creepy

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:44 (six years ago) link

yeah the assistant saying "you're car won't be here for a while you should go to his room". love to aid and abet sexual assault and harassment for a living.

-_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:46 (six years ago) link

but also like he obviously is so premeditated and carefully planned with his gross schemes. has the staff working on it.

-_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:47 (six years ago) link

Any idea which film and director she's referring to in that story?

jmm, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link

It occurs to me that Weinstein didn't even have the normal idiot excuse of being a complete drunk

which is not at all an excuse, it just makes you look like a well-rounded trainwreck of a douche

mh, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link

i believe she's talking about Tulip Fever directed by Justin Chadwick. Filmed in 2014, released in 2017.

nomar, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:51 (six years ago) link

and yeah, nomar otm, every fucking jackass gossip columnist who ran rape apologia pieces should get aired out

mh, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link

Hope this keeps going like dominoes and we can have a Rolling thread for these people every year.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:53 (six years ago) link

I hope it stops! The harassment, I mean, not the public stories explaining this shit

mh, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link

Really kinda hope this avalanche gets Corey Feldman to come out and name the former A-listers he's been insinuating about for years now.

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link

go look at the twitter for two of them, Danika Fears and Mara Siegler, they're retweeting Rose McGowan and stories about how horrible Harvey Weinstein is. And they put there names on that shit I linked.

nomar, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link

honestly idk what to do with any of this information. like, I already knew Hollywood was a cesspool of sexist abuse (as it has been for nearly a century), and playing "whack-an-asshole" w/each one that comes up is I guess helpful in some small way but I'm a little cynical about any systemic change resulting from it.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link

the people who are always loudly claiming that industries should be meritocracies are unsurprisingly doing some victim blaming

mh, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:58 (six years ago) link

maybe if these kinds of revelations destroy enough careers predators will think twice before they harass someone - both bc they'll see the potential consequences and bc their victims will be more emboldened to speak out.

Mordy, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:59 (six years ago) link

“kindly remove your tweet about my client “ #rapeculture

— CEDRIC BIXLER ZAVALA (@cedricbixler_) October 11, 2017

He had alluded to the rape charges against Danny Masterson

how's life, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:00 (six years ago) link

i'm not sure where the cynicism would come from, Mordy otm. i'm not sure it's helpful in a small way, i think seeing how Harvey Weinstein of all people is now a complete pariah in Hollywood will make a lot of people rethink their behavior or it will prevent it in the future.

nomar, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link

lol wait how did Cedric wind up in the Weinstein thread

flappy bird, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:07 (six years ago) link

Wonder how long it would take to have an effect on Japanese Idol culture.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:16 (six years ago) link

I mean, it's kinda the rolling hollywood sexual abuse thread of the moment. I hadn't heard about these allegations against Masterson before.

xp

how's life, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:16 (six years ago) link

That Page Six story is nuts.

Her Instagram account is filled with lingerie shots from various modeling gigs, along with preachy aphorisms like “Be real and honest always” and “There is no good sex without love.”

jmm, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:22 (six years ago) link

they used to throw "troublemakers" in sanitariums to silence them. now with the internet, not even a powerful exec can stop a story once it's gotten out. we've come a long way since the days of Francis Farmer. im a little more on the optimistic side. let's get all these stories out, shed light on this shit.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:23 (six years ago) link

Rape accuser had had sex before, source claims (xp)

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:24 (six years ago) link

maybe if these kinds of revelations destroy enough careers predators will think twice before they harass someone - both bc they'll see the potential consequences and bc their victims will be more emboldened to speak out.

I would like for men not to rape because they know they should not rape, but I suppose I would settle for men not raping because they are afraid to rape.

.oO (silby), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:30 (six years ago) link

yes i would also like an enlightened state of messianic redemption when people never treat each other cruelly bc all humanity follows even basic rudimentary moral codes but until that point some pragmatic deterrents are also good

Mordy, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link

Imagine

flappy bird, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:36 (six years ago) link

silby and mordy otm

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:38 (six years ago) link

cedric's feed today has been quite something

imago, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:41 (six years ago) link

I would like a more equal society where the massive power imbalances that breed craven exploitation are no longer even legal but y'know that's me

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link

There was a grisly Mair interview earlier, with a Brit producer who has worked with HW on multiple movies. He turned up at a private work related screening of In The Cut she was at and instructed the projectionist to FF to the "part where Meg Ryan gets her tits out" and then proceeded to jerk off in the seat behind her is the gist of her story. When I say private, she was the only person present apart from the projectionist.

calzino, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link

http://www.scarymommy.com/sexual-harassment-how-not-be-accused/

While navigating professional relationships can often require that dreaded thing known as “any amount of work at all,” there is hope. You see, by following this one simple rule, you, too, can interact with women as people.

It’s as clear-cut as this: Treat all women like you would treat Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson...
...

Oh shoot! She’s pretty! In the face, even. What to do?! I mean, you know it’d be inappropriate to treat the coffee meeting as a date since her clearly stated intentions were professional. But on the other hand, she’s blonde, and so was your last girlfriend! This is so confusing! What a minefield you are in.

But navigating this sticky situation can be made easy by employing The Rock Test. Close your eyes, take a deep breath, and when you open them, pretend Karen looks like this: (picture of The Rock)

Wow! Karen looks pretty tough and strong and sweaty! She looks like a person who is working very hard to achieve her goals, having left behind a situation that clearly wasn’t working, headed for bigger and better things. Maybe ask her about that? But definitely don’t hit on her. It looks like she could kill you with the chair you’re sitting on.

Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:45 (six years ago) link

thing is, the terry crews stuff obviates that

imago, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:49 (six years ago) link

@imago - what is Cedric's connection to all this? his wife?

flappy bird, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:51 (six years ago) link

I don't think all harassers are as bold or view themselves as powerful as one that'd harass Terry Crews

mh, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:51 (six years ago) link

cedric appears to have recently escaped a certain religious institution/cult

imago, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link

wtf

flappy bird, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link

Producer interviewed by Mair and just now on C4 is Alison Owen, who is Lily Allen’s mum. She said that she never had a firsthand account of HW’s antics, and even though she found him gross at that private screening, nothing he did in her presence was call-the-police actionable, and all the stories people shared were FOFish and basically hearsay.

kim jong deal (suzy), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:57 (six years ago) link

Whoa I just looked at Cedric's twitter - glad that he's still with his wife, but distressed nonetheless that they're being harassed by Scientologists. Hope he's right about dominoes continuing to fall. LOL'd at this:

Here we have LRH trying to audit the compulsion to rape out of a fucking tomato. Poor tomato must have raped in a past life. Not its fault pic.twitter.com/K2G03sA0Mb

— CEDRIC BIXLER ZAVALA (@cedricbixler_) October 11, 2017

flappy bird, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link

also important:

the lead in this beloved series is a Scientologist who turns a blind eye to the abuses of her own church. She is “of David”. Miscavige. pic.twitter.com/A5aexhyIsD

— CEDRIC BIXLER ZAVALA (@cedricbixler_) October 11, 2017

flappy bird, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link

all the stories people shared were FOFish and basically hearsay.

FOFish as in 'fact or fake'?

soref, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 19:05 (six years ago) link

Fertile. Of Fred.

how's life, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link


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