Weinsteins step down as Miramax CEOs

go look at the twitter for two of them, Danika Fears and Mara Siegler, they're retweeting Rose McGowan and stories about how horrible Harvey Weinstein is. And they put there names on that shit I linked.

honestly idk what to do with any of this information. like, I already knew Hollywood was a cesspool of sexist abuse (as it has been for nearly a century), and playing "whack-an-asshole" w/each one that comes up is I guess helpful in some small way but I'm a little cynical about any systemic change resulting from it.

the people who are always loudly claiming that industries should be meritocracies are unsurprisingly doing some victim blaming

maybe if these kinds of revelations destroy enough careers predators will think twice before they harass someone - both bc they'll see the potential consequences and bc their victims will be more emboldened to speak out.

“kindly remove your tweet about my client “ #rapeculture

— CEDRIC BIXLER ZAVALA (@cedricbixler_) October 11, 2017

He had alluded to the rape charges against Danny Masterson

i'm not sure where the cynicism would come from, Mordy otm. i'm not sure it's helpful in a small way, i think seeing how Harvey Weinstein of all people is now a complete pariah in Hollywood will make a lot of people rethink their behavior or it will prevent it in the future.

lol wait how did Cedric wind up in the Weinstein thread

Wonder how long it would take to have an effect on Japanese Idol culture.

I mean, it's kinda the rolling hollywood sexual abuse thread of the moment. I hadn't heard about these allegations against Masterson before.

xp

That Page Six story is nuts.

Her Instagram account is filled with lingerie shots from various modeling gigs, along with preachy aphorisms like “Be real and honest always” and “There is no good sex without love.”

they used to throw "troublemakers" in sanitariums to silence them. now with the internet, not even a powerful exec can stop a story once it's gotten out. we've come a long way since the days of Francis Farmer. im a little more on the optimistic side. let's get all these stories out, shed light on this shit.

Rape accuser had had sex before, source claims (xp)

maybe if these kinds of revelations destroy enough careers predators will think twice before they harass someone - both bc they'll see the potential consequences and bc their victims will be more emboldened to speak out.

yes i would also like an enlightened state of messianic redemption when people never treat each other cruelly bc all humanity follows even basic rudimentary moral codes but until that point some pragmatic deterrents are also good

Imagine

silby and mordy otm

cedric's feed today has been quite something

I would like a more equal society where the massive power imbalances that breed craven exploitation are no longer even legal but y'know that's me

There was a grisly Mair interview earlier, with a Brit producer who has worked with HW on multiple movies. He turned up at a private work related screening of In The Cut she was at and instructed the projectionist to FF to the "part where Meg Ryan gets her tits out" and then proceeded to jerk off in the seat behind her is the gist of her story. When I say private, she was the only person present apart from the projectionist.

http://www.scarymommy.com/sexual-harassment-how-not-be-accused/

While navigating professional relationships can often require that dreaded thing known as “any amount of work at all,” there is hope. You see, by following this one simple rule, you, too, can interact with women as people.

It’s as clear-cut as this: Treat all women like you would treat Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson...
...

Oh shoot! She’s pretty! In the face, even. What to do?! I mean, you know it’d be inappropriate to treat the coffee meeting as a date since her clearly stated intentions were professional. But on the other hand, she’s blonde, and so was your last girlfriend! This is so confusing! What a minefield you are in.

But navigating this sticky situation can be made easy by employing The Rock Test. Close your eyes, take a deep breath, and when you open them, pretend Karen looks like this: (picture of The Rock)

Wow! Karen looks pretty tough and strong and sweaty! She looks like a person who is working very hard to achieve her goals, having left behind a situation that clearly wasn’t working, headed for bigger and better things. Maybe ask her about that? But definitely don’t hit on her. It looks like she could kill you with the chair you’re sitting on.

thing is, the terry crews stuff obviates that

@imago - what is Cedric's connection to all this? his wife?

I don't think all harassers are as bold or view themselves as powerful as one that'd harass Terry Crews

cedric appears to have recently escaped a certain religious institution/cult

wtf

Producer interviewed by Mair and just now on C4 is Alison Owen, who is Lily Allen’s mum. She said that she never had a firsthand account of HW’s antics, and even though she found him gross at that private screening, nothing he did in her presence was call-the-police actionable, and all the stories people shared were FOFish and basically hearsay.

Whoa I just looked at Cedric's twitter - glad that he's still with his wife, but distressed nonetheless that they're being harassed by Scientologists. Hope he's right about dominoes continuing to fall. LOL'd at this:

Here we have LRH trying to audit the compulsion to rape out of a fucking tomato. Poor tomato must have raped in a past life. Not its fault pic.twitter.com/K2G03sA0Mb

— CEDRIC BIXLER ZAVALA (@cedricbixler_) October 11, 2017

also important:

the lead in this beloved series is a Scientologist who turns a blind eye to the abuses of her own church. She is “of David”. Miscavige. pic.twitter.com/A5aexhyIsD

— CEDRIC BIXLER ZAVALA (@cedricbixler_) October 11, 2017

all the stories people shared were FOFish and basically hearsay.

FOFish as in 'fact or fake'?

Fertile. Of Fred.

Friends of friends.

fuck yah cedric

Can't wait for when Scientology eventually, finally goes down

A profile in courage

pic.twitter.com/z8cyxrd693

— Seth MacFarlane (@SethMacFarlane) October 11, 2017

As someone just said in response, "you opened the oscar's that year by forcing a famous gay men's chorus to sing "i saw your boobs""

I hate SM so much, way to use this to give yourself a pat on the back you useless unfunny fuck

"Congratulations, you five ladies no longer have to pretend to be attracted to Harvey Weinstein."

Yeah, definitely a hard swing and not any kind of trivialization of the issue.

Everybody's just rushing to their time machines to condemn Harvey Weinstein

Except highbrow critics, who have been there since Kiarostami's Through the Olive Trees got buried.

Lmao yeah right some “hard swing”

a hard swing = what rose mcgowan has been doing for years. it’s not a fucking joke. If you want to attack someone or bring them to justice just fucking say it.

"Congratulations, you five ladies no longer have to pretend to be attracted to Harvey Weinstein."

we can probably assume harvey weinstein found this joke titillating

Would be incredible if someone made an accusation at an awards ceremony.

that's the weakest swing at Weinstein imaginable. out of context it also twists it around to where the women are putting themselves out there, rather than having someone force himself upon them.

Otm. also, yea it would be incredible & extremely unlikely anyone would make an accusation at the Oscars. I’m saying if he actually wanted to attack HW bc he “loathed” him so much, he could’ve made a statement. like, before the story broke

How is that unlikely? Half of all moviewood is infected with this shit. This is bound to come up, despite yr Murican 'Oscars are a show don't ruin it w/ politics or sexual misdemeanor'. It will come up, if only by the 'comic' presenting it. And however bad those comics are, it should come up. It needs to be mentioned. There is no alternative.

Comic=comedian, soz

Lol im definitely not in the “keep politics out of the Oscars” camp, I’m just saying it’s highly unlikely, & certainly was in 2013

I agree this has opened the floodgates & there will be much “atoning” in a few months at the globes, Oscars, etc

I don't think he was obligated to make a direct accusation at the Oscars, particularly if Barth wasn't willing. But I don't think his joke did anything to help either.

"Police Respond To 911 Call From Harvey Weinstein's Daughter, Who Reportedly Said Her Father Was Suicidal"

http://laist.com/2017/10/11/weinstein_police_911.php

;_;