The long overdue _Blade Runner_ thread

he’s also old and a well-known bullshitter who does a shtick

8pm showing on a Wednesday (which is 2-4-1 if you’ve got the right insurance/phone etc) at the biggest cinema in town was about half full.

Initial thoughts:

I enjoyed this from a first viewing more than any single complete viewing of the first film.

The plot, emotionally, felt totally satisfactory to me; the 'holes' outlined above are not even remotely issues (multi-zillionaire businessman destroying his own expensive product prototype when it fails his brief, vs underpaid service class 'Joe' not being able to afford a real one? I bet Steve Jobs used to wipe his arse with failed prototype iPhones.)

It looks amazing, obviously; contained all the shots and vistas that could make it feel like Blade Runner, and added a huge amount of new stuff to flesh it out.

I am not a massive fan of the first film; I love the idea of it and the aesthetic, but have never found any of the versions to be satisfactory. I've rewatched the final cut on bluray twice in the last couple of weeks and still stand by this. As such I think this is a more satisfying film experience. Is it a 'better' film? God, I wouldn't want to begin to try and argue that.

Didn't check the time once, and I was watching it alone, slightly ill, with no popcorn or posh ice cream to distract me. Pacing felt absolutely fine.

So much better a resurrection than Prometheus. I've avoided Alien: Covenant.

Is it woke enough in 2017? Again, I wouldn't try and begin to argue either way. It's not depicting the world we live in, though, obviously.

Callbacks to the previous film worked better than other recent things I've seen.

Not perfect, but really damn good. Better than I expected or hoped it would be years ago when it was announced. Probably as good as I hoped when I watched Sicario and realised who Villeneuve was.

No thoughts beyond initial from you again, thanks.

Cheers for that then.

quit being a prick, julio -- it's not as if you routinely organise your thoughts clearly or well when you write them down

lol i just remembered when a young sick mouthy accused the entire borad of being "insufferable cunts" for not taking the strict sokalist line

hahahaha

We're all a LOT older now.

Speak for yourself I am forever young and prickly

Sorry will just keep to 'you are wrong, sir' in future

yeah perhaps avoid trolling people like some forever 16-year-old brother

That wasn't trolling, was merely disagreeing with a post that was v, v wrong. Thanks for your concern.

new board desc

it was trolling -- you in yr pointless lol 4chan mode let's-destroy-other-ppl's-discussion-bcz-i'm-bored-at-work mode

People disagree on here all the time in various ways, the thread isn't locked, the thing is usually ignored and goes on.

I can see that my implied please stop posting on this is fucked but it was more of a way of expressing erm violent disagreement...but someone was going to come along and agree with it, the thread would have moved on.

So what is the actual problem?

Do you really 'violently' disagree? Or do we just have different opinions about a movie? Cos it doens't matter. It's a movie! Let's talk about it, not be horrible to each other.

is this a movie to get heated about?

digging back through the thread for points we (ok, I) hit:

fwiw Leto's androgynous look kind of makes him perfect to play an android.

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, August 19, 2016 9:31 AM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what makes him androgynous

is it the pretty eyes

― mh, Friday, August 19, 2016 9:34 AM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the first thing he did was cover up his actual eyes to get "in character" oh boy

also, I wrote this movie

Or they're hunting Deckard because he's the key to replicant longevity

or, completely unbelievable, there's a replicant child out there

― mh, Thursday, July 20, 2017 9:18 AM (two months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Violently is v much in scare quotes. It was just my way of expressing disagreement. I wasn't thinking anything else like destroying discussion. Xps

question : is this a film for a 14 year old who has not seen the original, or, is it too boring for a thrills-n-spills overloaded teen and for the dad only ?

there's a lot of nudity if that's a matter

Harrison Ford's crinkly old scrotum in 3d might be a bit much for some.

ah.
would not bother me him seeing such stuff (3d scrotum aside), but he would get his uncomfortable teenager face on.
like when he gets a naughty joke in family guy and tries to hide the fact that he gets it.

most of the nudity pertains to nubile holographic robogirlfriends

I don't think the nudity would be problematic; it's sexualised but not in any way sexy - like a last-gasp effort of capitalism to sell something when everything else has failed, so let's use a 100ft tall nude neon hologram girl.

You don't need to have seen the first. It is slow, but it's very cool to look at, and the action bits, when they happen, have more impact because of this. I winced in a way I never have with an Avengers movie.

its the slowness of it that i suspect will not appeal.

the couple of scenes where women get casually and graphically murdered for no reason I'm not sure I'd want a young teen watching

I felt pretty much bang-on average age (38) in the cinema. Reports I've read suggest it's not getting the teen market in the US. I was obsessed with 2001: A Space Odyssey when I was about 15, so I don't think slowness is necessary a teen no-no. I'd take them and try and realign their brain.

to be sure though, mark e, the movie is paced languidly at best

bugger, original is not on netflix/uk.
was going to make him watch that over the weekend and see how it went.

it's also got a very depressing depiction of the Earth's future where there is a chronic shortage of every color except orange and teal

to be fair, thanks to the maze runner/hunger games/enders etc mk2 loves futuristic dystopian bleakness, but they are obviously aimed at the younger crew.

Dude teal and orange is not a problem in this movie.

It’s less prevalent than in the original.

teal and sickly yellow, then.

http://cdn1-www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/2017/10/bladerunnerreview.jpg

do a gis. some images are teal, and the others are orange.

Jared Leto's House of Tron has a definite yellow theme going on in the film, like a giant backlit toilet bowl

saw this last night, loved it

should I see it again in IMAX

another plot hole

the horse is still radioactive but the place where it came from is no longer radioactive

that's not how radioactivity works

radioactivity in 2049 in much more advanced, u wouldnt understand

i am pretty dense it's true

i also had a hard time figuring out how gosling figured the memory maker as the daughter

He figured it out via a Usual Suspects flashback subroutine.
And also she looks kind of like Sean Young?

I appreciated the fact that they left the trail vague enough that it seemed, to my slightly slow matinee mind, like a twist I hadn't quite anticipated.

The little flashback/montage bit that happened wouldn't have been necessary had the movie been tighter, but it laid it out -- Deckard showed them how to scramble the records, explaining why it was unclear whether the kid was a boy or girl. But the girl's record, which you're mislead into thinking was the bogus one, had a disease recorded. As in, the kind of disease that would lead to a life in isolation. Her visceral reaction when she said "this is a real memory" seemed a little disproportionate to the trauma of the actual memory. She's able to brush off her parents as being offworld, having left her.

None of it directly pointed to "this is the woman" but it all fit, and was enough for someone who actually had the memory to work it out.

I was left guessing whether the disease part was true -- I'd lean on the side of "no" and it was just a very specific way for them to hide the daughter in plain sight, directly in view of the people who were seeking her, but out of reach.

The way the dude was handling the horse didn't suggest it was actually all that radioactive. Was the idea perhaps supposed to be that it had traces of some particular isotopes that indicated where it had been?

You don't see what memory K shows the girl. Then again the furnace memory did involve getting kicked in.

i was waiting for harrison ford to glue on a toothpick horn on the horse but instead got glitchy hologram elvis.

Enjoyed the movie. Spielberg meets Malick in a way. Not a masterpiece but pretty good and great atmoaphere.