Weinsteins step down as Miramax CEOs

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i've long cherished the black and white blankness of ilx as a place i can exist without having to announce that but i felt it was worth noting under these circumstances

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 12 October 2017 18:37 (six years ago) link

No I mean in re the people criticizing him for not speaking out sooner. I assume if his wife said "please speak out about this" sooner he would have?

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Thursday, 12 October 2017 18:37 (six years ago) link

oh ok
i don't follow the criticism of the criticism -- that's too much for me to follow. i only have energy to fight the real enemy and that is not "the timing of anthony bourdain".

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 12 October 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link

Yes, your presence as a non-dude ILXor is def noted and valued, LL.

the scarest move i ever seen is scary move 4 (Old Lunch), Thursday, 12 October 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link

And I wish lots more non-dudes posted here.

They did. Oddly enough, a number of them got a lot of shit and felt like they needed to leave.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 October 2017 18:41 (six years ago) link

100% agree, i think i mentioned how jessica chastain on twitter said she had known about Weinstein for years and warned other women in the industry to steer clear. someone (of course they did, bc it's twitter) went after her for not coming forward and she said it was up to them to step forward or give permission to talk about it.

nomar, Thursday, 12 October 2017 18:41 (six years ago) link

A spokesperson from Twitter confirms that it put limits on McGowan's account because she tweeted a phone number:

We have been in touch with Ms. McGowan's team. We want to explain that her account was temporarily locked because one of her Tweets included a private phone number, which violates of our Terms of Service. The Tweet was removed and her account has been unlocked. We will be clearer about these policies and decisions in the future.

President Keyes, Thursday, 12 October 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link

save-a-__

wait, what is this LL?

flappy bird, Thursday, 12 October 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link

jessica chastain otm

__ = ho iirc? sometimes replaced with another word but i thought that was the original usage.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 12 October 2017 18:48 (six years ago) link

check out E-40 discography

President Keyes, Thursday, 12 October 2017 18:48 (six years ago) link

smh that the ilx goons haven't done enough to put everyone on game to forty water by now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7vQSPBtwyc

They did. Oddly enough, a number of them got a lot of shit and felt like they needed to leave.

yah looking back on the noize dude era of the board is something i look back on and regret being apart of regularly

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 12 October 2017 18:51 (six years ago) link

Meantime, Ms. McGowan to Twitter

when will nuclear war violate your terms of service? https://t.co/72FiiyoZ59

— rose mcgowan (@rosemcgowan) October 12, 2017

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 October 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link

thought is was captain save-a-luna

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 12 October 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link

i think it's great that behind the scenes in Hollywood you had all these women banding together to help each other out and steer each other clear of a predator, though obviously not as great as the scenario where a predator was never allowed to roam free and enlist all kinds of help to cover up his crimes.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: people should never forget the names of those in the media who helped smear Weinstein's accusers. god knows how many of these women chose not to step forward because of the attacks in the press.

nomar, Thursday, 12 October 2017 18:53 (six years ago) link

smh that the ilx goons

ilx goons are an echo chamber

Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 October 2017 18:57 (six years ago) link

re: the Kate Beckinsale story, this is the full one:

I was called to meet Harvey Weinstein at the Savoy Hotel when I was 17. I assumed it would be in a conference room which was very common.When I arrived ,reception told me to go to his room . He opened the door in his bathrobe . I was incredibly naive and young and it did not cross my mind that this older ,unattractive man would expect me to have any sexual interest in him .After declining alcohol and announcing that I had school in the morning I left ,uneasy but unscathed.A few years later he asked me if he had tried anything with me in that first meeting .I realized he couldn't remember if he had assaulted me or not .I had what I thought were boundaries - I said no to him professionally many times over the years-some of which ended up with him screaming at me calling me a cunt and making threats, some of which made him laughingly tell people oh "Kate lives to say no to me ." It speaks to the status quo in this business that I was aware that standing up for myself and saying no to things,while it did allow me to feel uncompromised in myself,undoubtedly harmed my career and was never something I felt supported by anyone other than my family.I would like to applaud the women who have come forward , and to pledge that we can from this create a new paradigm where producers,managers,executives and assistants and everyone who has in the past shrugged and said " well, that's just Harvey /Mr X/insert name here " will realize that we in numbers can affect real change.For every moment like this there have been thousands where a vulnerable person has confided outrageous unprofessional behavior and found they have no recourse, due to an atmosphere of fear that it seems almost everyone has been living in .I had a male friend who, based on my experience,warned a young actress who said she was going to dinner with Harvey to be careful. He received a phone call the next day saying he would never work in another Miramax film ;the girl was already sleeping with Harvey and had told him that my friend had warned her off.Let's stop allowing our young women to be sexual cannon fodder,and let's remember that Harvey is an emblem of a system that is sick,and that we have work to do.

nomar, Thursday, 12 October 2017 19:25 (six years ago) link

she never did work on a Harvey Weinstein production afaict, with the sole exception of The Aviator (like Brad Pitt w/Tarantino, maybe bc she wouldn't have to deal with him, or inversely maybe because he couldn't tell Scorsese not to hire here?)

nomar, Thursday, 12 October 2017 19:27 (six years ago) link

I had a male friend who, based on my experience,warned a young actress who said she was going to dinner with Harvey to be careful. He received a phone call the next day saying he would never work in another Miramax film ;the girl was already sleeping with Harvey and had told him that my friend had warned her off.

JFC, "hey I know I fucked up but those were different times, it was totally normal for people to blacklist anyone who interfered with their habitual rape back then"

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Thursday, 12 October 2017 19:45 (six years ago) link

like the complete bullshit of his "apology" just becomes more and more disturbing with every detail I read. "Aw shucks I guess I'll talk to a therapist and donate some money for gun control."

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Thursday, 12 October 2017 19:46 (six years ago) link

his half-assed video apology today (to a camera crew):

Harvey Weinstein, in his first public response since multiple women accused him of sexual misconduct, said “we all make mistakes."

“Guys, I’m not doing OK, but I’m trying,” Weinstein told reporters on Wednesday as he entered an SUV parked outside his daughter’s Los Angeles home.

“I got to get help,” the former film executive said.

“A second chance, I hope,” Weinstein, 65, added.

nomar, Thursday, 12 October 2017 19:48 (six years ago) link

...what

.@PageSixEmily says Weinstein told her he'll be back in a year w/new financial backing & winning Oscars againhttps://t.co/0H4eMlW3Qr

— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) October 12, 2017

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 October 2017 19:57 (six years ago) link

He’s not sorry - he’s just sorry he got caught.

kim jong deal (suzy), Thursday, 12 October 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link

Otm.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 12 October 2017 19:59 (six years ago) link

Emily Smith, ever so slightly trying to dodge her complicity there

nomar, Thursday, 12 October 2017 20:00 (six years ago) link

my feeling is that it’s not enough to cut at W himself.
it’s good, and the outpouring is incredible...but i want to see someone cut at the support network. name those other names of the ppl who operate solely on the knowledge that they will never be named... get those floodlights into EVERY dark unknowable corner, not just where the ogre lives

it’ll never happen but it should. don’t just chop down the tree. dig up the roots, burn the ground & salt the earth

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 12 October 2017 20:08 (six years ago) link

Honestly getting sick of people deflecting to Trump in the responses to this. Trump didn't invent sexual assault, and yeah I get the point that it says something that a man like that can become president, but there are a lot of other predators out there.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Thursday, 12 October 2017 20:10 (six years ago) link

VG otmfm. SO MANY MOTHERFUCKERS not only had firsthand knowledge of the shit as it happened, but actively and knowingly facilitated (and ultimately encouraged) it.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 12 October 2017 20:28 (six years ago) link

i'm still in a righteous fury about all of those NY Post hacks who put their names on those hit pieces. name and shame them all, never forget!!

nomar, Thursday, 12 October 2017 20:30 (six years ago) link

this story pisses me off so much. fuck the career hacks. fuck NBC. fuck Batman, what a piece of shit enabler. fuck Twitter too obv but i always felt that way. it was weird as heck when one year every news channel suddenly decided, oh yeah, this is news now, let's ask what HobbitFan420 thinks of the Syrian invasion.

Rose McGowan is my new hero. she deserves to be Batman more than that lying piece of shit.

this whole thing sucks but it's also good to be able to have this stuff out in the open, now it is public knowledge, these scumbags can't hide anymore. predatory misogyny has gone on for a loooong time, shielded by so many systems and power structures, all over the world. we are seeing the cracks in that facade. burn it to the ground.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 12 October 2017 21:52 (six years ago) link

Affleck has always been bro culture boiled down into single man form.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 12 October 2017 21:55 (six years ago) link

it's part of why he was perfect as Old Asshole Batman

Nhex, Thursday, 12 October 2017 22:01 (six years ago) link

not defending him on this issue, but he did attack Bill maher and that other guy for being anti-Muslim on Maher's show

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 October 2017 22:04 (six years ago) link

figured that was a foregone conclusion

akm, Thursday, 12 October 2017 23:31 (six years ago) link

i mean, she basically already said that when she said "my ex sold my movie to my rapist"

akm, Thursday, 12 October 2017 23:31 (six years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/xMdoA8fvDx

— Ryan Gosling (@RyanGosling) October 12, 2017

you could at least do us the courtesy of saying our names https://t.co/IJEBkdopHV

— rose mcgowan (@rosemcgowan) October 12, 2017

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 October 2017 23:54 (six years ago) link

Yeah I find a lot of these public "solidarity" statements to read more like preemptive self-exculpations.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Friday, 13 October 2017 00:13 (six years ago) link

bla bla bla #notallmen and so on basically.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 13 October 2017 00:16 (six years ago) link

The more I'm reading of all this the angrier I'm getting. None of these men said jack shit and they all knew.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 13 October 2017 00:17 (six years ago) link

Eh, Affleck has also done (terrible) comedy Arab terrorist accents on late night shows. And I am convinced a blind item I read about a Hollywood leading man beat his wife was about him and Jennifer Garner. but even if that’s not true, he’s gross.

horseshoe, Friday, 13 October 2017 00:27 (six years ago) link

It just rings really weird also to make a public statement to the effect of "Im sorry that I didn't know. "

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Friday, 13 October 2017 00:30 (six years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/cgyYTZtpaN

— Tippi Hedren (@Tippi_Hedren) October 11, 2017

nomar, Friday, 13 October 2017 01:23 (six years ago) link

I'm confused, is she anonymously quoting another actress who wrote that to her?

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Friday, 13 October 2017 01:44 (six years ago) link

This fool would say this.

Oliver Stone refuses to condemn Harvey Weinstein saying "It's not easy what he's going through." https://t.co/eLs4nPPnPU pic.twitter.com/SwmDPqpCqM

— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) October 13, 2017

Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 October 2017 01:45 (six years ago) link

Jesus.

Tarantino still hasn't commented, huh?

jmm, Friday, 13 October 2017 01:52 (six years ago) link

Utterly shocked by the revelations about Harvey. He is a good friend, but if he is guilty, there are issues that are inevitable.

— Quentin Tarantino (@qtarantino) October 11, 2017

nomar, Friday, 13 October 2017 01:56 (six years ago) link

The guilt of men on the face of the earth must be determined by Justice and ultimately by the possible existence of God.

— Quentin Tarantino (@qtarantino) October 11, 2017

nomar, Friday, 13 October 2017 01:56 (six years ago) link

We need to stand up and support victims of abuse such as the brave and inspiring women who have spoken out.

— Quentin Tarantino (@qtarantino) October 12, 2017

nomar, Friday, 13 October 2017 01:56 (six years ago) link


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