I'm confused, is she anonymously quoting another actress who wrote that to her?
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Friday, 13 October 2017 01:44 (six years ago) link
This fool would say this.
Oliver Stone refuses to condemn Harvey Weinstein saying "It's not easy what he's going through." https://t.co/eLs4nPPnPU pic.twitter.com/SwmDPqpCqM— Yashar Ali đ (@yashar) October 13, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 October 2017 01:45 (six years ago) link
Jesus.
Tarantino still hasn't commented, huh?
― jmm, Friday, 13 October 2017 01:52 (six years ago) link
Utterly shocked by the revelations about Harvey. He is a good friend, but if he is guilty, there are issues that are inevitable.— Quentin Tarantino (@qtarantino) October 11, 2017
― nomar, Friday, 13 October 2017 01:56 (six years ago) link
The guilt of men on the face of the earth must be determined by Justice and ultimately by the possible existence of God.— Quentin Tarantino (@qtarantino) October 11, 2017
We need to stand up and support victims of abuse such as the brave and inspiring women who have spoken out.— Quentin Tarantino (@qtarantino) October 12, 2017
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/a1/a141aedce06fa25daa9ab224ee784df6bd04626cf4bc0bbf7f4a928f1522ce91.jpg
― nomar, Friday, 13 October 2017 01:57 (six years ago) link
why are these dillweeds all so bad at lying
― qualx, Friday, 13 October 2017 02:02 (six years ago) link
I don't think that's a real account.
― jmm, Friday, 13 October 2017 02:02 (six years ago) link
ok so one person is good at lying
― qualx, Friday, 13 October 2017 02:04 (six years ago) link
oh nm
― nomar, Friday, 13 October 2017 02:04 (six years ago) link
Can't wait for QT to turn this into a thinly-disguised revenge Western.
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 13 October 2017 02:05 (six years ago) link
Filmmaker Robert Rodriguez has spoken out about Harvey Weinsteinâs sexual harassment allegations.Rodriguez has a long history with Weinsteinâs company Miramax and was previously in a relationship with Rose McGowan, who said she was assaulted by Weinstein in 1997.âI find the behavior of Harvey Weinstein truly disgusting, both what he did and how he covered his tracks, and it makes me wonder how many others canât come forward and tell their full story because of legal and personal intimidation,â Rodriguez said in a statement obtained by Variety. âHis repulsive behavior was an abuse of power. Thankfully, heâs now discovering what true power is.âRodriguez worked with the Weinsteinâs and Miramax on a number of his films, including âThe Spy Kidsâ series, âRoadracers,â âFour Rooms,â âFrom Dusk Til Dawn,â and âSin City.â
Rodriguez has a long history with Weinsteinâs company Miramax and was previously in a relationship with Rose McGowan, who said she was assaulted by Weinstein in 1997.
âI find the behavior of Harvey Weinstein truly disgusting, both what he did and how he covered his tracks, and it makes me wonder how many others canât come forward and tell their full story because of legal and personal intimidation,â Rodriguez said in a statement obtained by Variety. âHis repulsive behavior was an abuse of power. Thankfully, heâs now discovering what true power is.â
Rodriguez worked with the Weinsteinâs and Miramax on a number of his films, including âThe Spy Kidsâ series, âRoadracers,â âFour Rooms,â âFrom Dusk Til Dawn,â and âSin City.â
― nomar, Friday, 13 October 2017 02:09 (six years ago) link
"And yet I stood by and did nothing and continued to make mad bank via a man who did this to women including one I dated"
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 13 October 2017 02:10 (six years ago) link
Somebody tweeted at Kevin Smith the other day...his response:
He financed the first 14 years of my career - and now I know while I was profiting, others were in terrible pain. It makes me feel ashamed. https://t.co/T0hInW7EqJ— KevinSmith (@ThatKevinSmith) October 9, 2017
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 13 October 2017 02:12 (six years ago) link
Actress Tara Subkoff has opened up about her experience with Harvey Weinstein, alleging the producer sexually harassed her in the 1990s when she was up for a part in one of his movies.
âThat night I was offered the role, and I went out to a premiere after party that Harvey Weinstein was also at,â she told Variety. âHe motioned for me to come over to him, and then grabbed me to sit me on his lap. I was so surprised and shocked I couldnât stop laughing because it was so awkward. But then I could feel that he had an erection. I got quiet, but got off his lap quickly. He then asked me to come outside with him and other things I donât want to share, but it was implied that if I did not comply with doing what he asked me to do that I would not get the role that I had already been informally offered. I laughed in his face as I was in shock and so uncomfortable. I left the party right after that.â
Subkoff made her film debut in 1994âs thriller âWhen the Bough Breaks,â and appeared in the 1997 Jack Nicholson comedy âAs Good as It Gets,â the 1997 âAll Over Me,â and the 1998 Whit Stillman film âThe Last Days of Disco.â Subkoff said after denying Weinsteinâs advances that night, she was stripped of the informally offered part and blacklisted from acting in Hollywood.
âMy reputation was ruined by false gossip, and I was called âtoo difficult to work with,'â she said. âIt became impossible for me to get work as an actress after this, so I then had to start a new career path and started Imitation of Christ, a fashion and art label.
In 2015, Subkoff stepped back into entertainment and made her directorial debut with the feature film â#Horror.â
âThe Weinstein company executives snuck into a cast and crew screening of my film and told me they loved it,â she recalled. âThen they took it to Harvey, who then refused to watch it but then bad-mouthed it to everyone all over Cannes.â
Still, the movie was picked up for distribution by IFC Midnight. â[IFC was] so supportive of me and the movie, even though Harvey tried to ruin any potential success it could have had,â she said. âIt is challenging enough to get work in Hollywood as a female, let alone being a female filmmaker producer/director. And when people attempt to ruin your reputation on top of that, it makes it next to impossible.â
Subkoff said she hopes the growing list of women coming forward with their stories will set a precedent for how women are treated in all places of work. âI have a 17 month old daughter, and I hope she never has a story like this to share.â
Though she has never shared her story before, Subkoff said she opened up about her experience to demonstrate how âpowerful men abusing their power can affect not only a few careers, but all of ours,â adding, âI had it affect and ruin my career as an actress. And then almost twenty years later it almost affected my first feature film I wrote directed and produced getting distribution. That refusing to comply with one powerful manâs sexual advances could not only ruin my first career as an actress, but almost twenty years later also had the power to affect my first and only feature film to get distribution is so important to show how the abuse of power by the patriarchy is affecting all female artists everywhere.â
― nomar, Friday, 13 October 2017 02:16 (six years ago) link
if there are people out there who had the guts to say "I've heard all the stories about this guy and you know what I don't want his money" we've probably never heard their names. That doesn't necessarily mean Kevin Smith knew but come on some of these motherfuckers definitely did.
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Friday, 13 October 2017 02:16 (six years ago) link
Tarantino & Rodriguez obviously did. Probably Gosling. people like Kevin Smith, I'm not sure... I mean when something is such a widespread open secret, how much purchase do you really have if you only know vague rumors & you're three or four steps removed from the people involved?
― flappy bird, Friday, 13 October 2017 02:26 (six years ago) link
considering how many projects Weinstein worked on, you can see a pattern w/a lot of his accusers where they never worked with him again. i have no doubt it was an open secret, but i also think a lot of these guys--when they're saying "i didn't know"--are really saying "i didn't believe the accusers or the rumors i heard." or possibly, "i didn't care until i couldn't afford not to care anymore."
― nomar, Friday, 13 October 2017 02:29 (six years ago) link
That last story is horrifying particularly due to the fact he effectively stalked Subkoff years after she rebuffed him, to go out of his way to damage her reputation! I mean that goes beyond being butthurt and into the realm of fucked up controlling psychopath.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 13 October 2017 02:58 (six years ago) link
Well, his Mallrats star knew.
#HarveyWeinstein #ClaireForlani #MyStory pic.twitter.com/gEVDkbP5ec— Claire Forlani (@ClaireAForlani) October 12, 2017
― Eazy, Friday, 13 October 2017 03:44 (six years ago) link
http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/12/media/amazon-studios-roy-price-harvey-weinstein/index.html
Head of Amazon Studios put on leave for telling Philip K Dick's daughter (producer of Man in the HIgh Castle) "you'd love my dick" and yelling "Anal sex!" in her ear.
― akm, Friday, 13 October 2017 03:45 (six years ago) link
<3 claire forlaniall this truth is so hard to take on board but so important to be heard, seen
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 13 October 2017 03:59 (six years ago) link
I suspect we're going to hear so many more stories coming out over the next several days, weeks, months, etc. He used his position to be a predator stalking an entire generation of young actresses. And even from my limited scope here, you'd hear stories. When Rose McGowan would drop hints over the past couple years, it didn't take much guessing to know who it was. Everyone knew, but the people who could do something felt powerless or they turned a blind eye or they assisted.
And i think unfortunately producers like him, having to work with people like him, it's considered to be some perverse rite of passage, like "oh there are a lot of assholes in Hollywood ha ha!". the ones i'd always hear about was Scott Rudin, and from the old-school Jon Peters. But those stories were always out there, no coverups. They were just legendarily abusive to their underlings, but you'd never hear about actual crimes.
What's different here was the deep rot that had to set in everywhere for so many people to ignore it, or not investigate further. So I have to give massive respect for life to Rose McGowan, I'm complete in my admiration for her. And also for those others behind the scenes who--though they might have felt like they couldn't go to the authorities or the press with proof--nonetheless warned people away from him. And respect to those who had to deal with the PTSD from having him attack them. and i mean i'll never judge anyone for not coming forward, i do not doubt for a second that a lot of people found themselves in a position where they knew their careers could be ruined by this guy, and they felt stuck. it's horrific.
― nomar, Friday, 13 October 2017 05:40 (six years ago) link
xps I like Clerks and Dogma well enough, but Smith strikes me as probably an enabler. Unless someone's got a strong case that his best pal Jason Mewes was unlikely to have been a constant harasser.
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Friday, 13 October 2017 10:26 (six years ago) link
Hollywood is steeped in disease to varying "open secret" degrees. The whole "casting couch" thing is practically a punchline, which is pretty sick; talk about an open secret. HW seems to be several steps beyond the norm, whatever that may be, but the fact that literally everyone knows what the proverbial casting couch is shows how deep and far back this stuff goes, no doubt in and at every level of every industry but especially where this boys club mentality appears to be encouraged and dismissed (see: Fox News, the President, everywhere, etc.).
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 October 2017 11:40 (six years ago) link
From Quentin Tarantino: pic.twitter.com/jv0VQNrI91— Amber Tamblyn (@ambertamblyn) October 13, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 October 2017 13:33 (six years ago) link
God, seeing these names I haven't seen in forever (Tara Subkoff! Claire Forlani!) and realizing the probable reasons why I haven't seen their names in forever is just the most awful shit. It's not enough that he physically violated these women, he also had to actively snuff out their careers.
― the scarest move i ever seen is scary move 4 (Old Lunch), Friday, 13 October 2017 13:43 (six years ago) link
fuck Batman, what a piece of shit enabler
I ran through about 5 names in my mind before I realized you were talking about Affleck
― President Keyes, Friday, 13 October 2017 13:59 (six years ago) link
Claire Forlani was in a pretty recent Lifetime movie about a sadistic (exercise) trainer/life coach who preyed on exercise-obsessed Forlani until her spirit was broken. Not bad for a Lifetime movie. Not great.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 13 October 2017 14:03 (six years ago) link
xp: ditto.
― how's life, Friday, 13 October 2017 14:07 (six years ago) link
I've been very skeptical about all these Hollywood people claiming ignorance about Weinstein. I think it's possible they weren't aware of the rape and sexual assault details, but they surely knew that he wasn't a good person, it was common knowledge. I even think this extends to Hillary Clinton and other politicians that took money from him and treated him like a friend. It's dumb that there's been this whole side conversation about Clinton, she doesn't deserve to be dragged through the mud, nor should this conversation even be about her. But I can't help but feel ambivalent about her and other democrats taking his money. Again, it's completely possible they had no idea about the rape allegations, but they must have known they were dealing with a bad character.
My impressions about Weinstein come primarily from reading Down and Dirty Pictures by Peter Biskind about 10 years ago. I don't remember much about that book. The main thing I do remember about it is that it clearly paints Weinstein as a monster, a horrible person who you should avoid working with at all costs. I don't think the book touches on anything to do with sex, but it is very clear that he is no good.
Interestingly, Biskind was interviewed by Slate regarding these new allegations:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/interrogation/2017/10/peter_biskind_on_the_harvey_weinstein_abuse_allegations.html
He comes off as weirdly defensive about the whole thing because he didn't include any details of sexual abuse. He's very vague about whether he knew anything or not. I guess I can understand that he wants to cover his own ass, but I don't see how anyone could read his book and end up with anything but a highly negative view about Weinstein.
― Moodles, Friday, 13 October 2017 14:23 (six years ago) link
I take it there's been no comment from Trump.
― Mark G, Friday, 13 October 2017 14:24 (six years ago) link
He said he knows Weinstein and he's not surprised.
― President Keyes, Friday, 13 October 2017 14:25 (six years ago) link
lol @ tarantino "The guilt of men on the face of the earth must be determined by Justice and ultimately by the possible existence of God."
― marcos, Friday, 13 October 2017 14:28 (six years ago) link
*farts*
that was fake tho right?
― President Keyes, Friday, 13 October 2017 14:28 (six years ago) link
ok nm i guess it is a fake account lol
― marcos, Friday, 13 October 2017 14:29 (six years ago) link
sorry
Is it a joke account or some person trying to pretend they are him?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 13 October 2017 14:38 (six years ago) link
https://www.thedailybeast.com/prosecutor-threw-away-slam-dunk-cases-against-weinstein-and-trump-kids?source=facebook&via=mobile
(author is a law professor, specialist in prosecutorial misconduct, and former manhattan prosecutor, so he knows what he is talking about)
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Friday, 13 October 2017 14:49 (six years ago) link
Yeah I think the only real comment from him so far is that one I linked. (That said, it's a lame comment.)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 October 2017 14:50 (six years ago) link
.@KellyannePolls: "Any woman who remained silent as the next generation suffered... they have no right [to say] they speak for women." pic.twitter.com/68txoCg03b— Fox News (@FoxNews) October 13, 2017
Vile.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 13 October 2017 14:55 (six years ago) link
I really like this piece: https://jezebel.com/dont-make-a-scene-1819360859
If the phrase serves to quickly end a womanâs expression of emotion, then it also serves to define that behavior as performatively unnatural. Almost any allegation can be thus dismissed as yet another crazy, irrational woman making yet another unnecessary scene. Rose McGowan, one of the few of Weinsteinâs victims to speak publicly about her abuse, was called âbatshit insane,â and her habit of speaking openly about the casual sexism in Hollywood, treated as a questionable spectacle from an unwell woman. McGowan did not act like a victim should. She was angry and messy rather than polite and meek about her allegations. We prefer victims to be âbrave,â to articulate their abuse without the messy feelings of anger or regret inflecting the narrative. Anger is for the men who have been accused who, even after mounting evidence of their abusive behavior, still only have to say âthese charges are not true,â to provide evidence of their rationality. A victimâs anger is a messy spectacleâa big sceneâbut the anger of the accused is an objective response to so-called false allegations. McGowan made a scene even as other victims, through threats and media manipulation, were rendered silent, prevented from making a scene.
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Friday, 13 October 2017 14:56 (six years ago) link
on a side note, Tippi Hedren has a cool signature
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tippi_Hedren#/media/File:Tippi_Hedren_signature.jpg
― jmm, Friday, 13 October 2017 15:06 (six years ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/Tippi_Hedren_signature.jpg
― jmm, Friday, 13 October 2017 15:07 (six years ago) link
i believe that phrase comes from the french "faire la comedie" which sometimes means "make a scene" but still often literally means "pretend; make something up"
xpost: omg!!
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 13 October 2017 15:09 (six years ago) link
Dug up this Oliver Stone profile this morning. Shows how "out in the open" all of this was in that era.
@briankoppelman Reminded of Stephen Schiff's '94 @NewYorker profile of Oliver Stone: https://t.co/j7IVSTqZxh pic.twitter.com/k1EaGwcLLq— Eric Ziegenhagen (@ericzieg) October 13, 2017
― Eazy, Friday, 13 October 2017 15:18 (six years ago) link
simple but on pointhttps://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22490228_10115235361170974_6594269169792364899_n.jpg?oh=f0dff620c30af0e45fcbd43cbf87f11b&oe=5A3CF304
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Friday, 13 October 2017 15:21 (six years ago) link
patricia arquette appears to be going in on oliver stone right now
― mookieproof, Friday, 13 October 2017 15:33 (six years ago) link