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Tuning in now and... *groans* ... Matt Bianco.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:34 (six years ago) link

Huh, that looks like Lord Voldemort in the video to Duran Duran's Wild Boys. That vocal remains utterly horrible. I like the video, though!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:39 (six years ago) link

xp a bunch of wankers

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:43 (six years ago) link

Bruno Brookes being asked if he's been eating magic mushrooms!?!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:43 (six years ago) link

Dave Stewart waa enjoying himself a lot in that Eurythmics vid, eh?

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:44 (six years ago) link

*was

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:44 (six years ago) link

Alvin Stardust not really sure what to do with his arms here.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:47 (six years ago) link

Someone in my year at school looked like Nick Kershaw and always got really pissed off when anyone mentioned it.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:51 (six years ago) link

Every time I see a Nik Kershaw performance on this show he always looks either confused or mildly annoyed... the lyrics to this are utter bollocks!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:51 (six years ago) link

I'll never get bored of this Chaka Khan track. Better than the Prince original!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:54 (six years ago) link

Nik Kershaw agrees:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Riddle_(Nik_Kershaw_song)#Lyrics
Kershaw has stated: "In short, 'The Riddle' is nonsense, rubbish, bollocks, the confused ramblings of an 80s popstar."

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:54 (six years ago) link

Hahaha!! I had no idea he hated it. He's completely right!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:56 (six years ago) link

He wrote Chesney Hawkes' 'The One And Only' and reportedly hated that as well.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:57 (six years ago) link

What's the answer to "The Riddle"?

It amazes me that people are still asking me this question. I spilled the beans a few years ago now so this isn't exactly news.

My producer (Peter Collins) came over to my house just before we commenced recording on the second album to hear how I was getting on with the writing. He went away saying he thought it sounded great but didn't think I had the first single. Incensed by this, I went straight up to the spare room and got the chords and melody together for the Riddle. This must've taken all of twenty minutes. Knowing time was short before we started recording I jotted down some jibberish with the intention of writing the real lyric as we were recording it.

About a week later we started recording and I threw a rough guide vocal down using the jibberish lyrics. As the album progressed, I tried various different lyric ideas but nothing seemed to fit as well as the guide lyric. So we decided to stick with what we had. "Let's call it the Riddle", I thought. Then people would think it was actually about something.

I had completely underestimated the fuss this would cause and, to make matters worse, the marketing and promotions people at MCA decided to make a competition out of it (without telling me). The response was unbelievable. We got sack loads of mail with elaborate and detailed analysis of the song. Line by line, word by word. Some were the size of small novels. Some even made sense!! People stopped me in the street to give me their thoughts and theories. On one occasion I arrived to do a live Radio 1 interview with a certain DJ only to find he'd told the great British public that I would be "revealing all" on his show. He was most put out when I wouldn't (couldn't) co-operate.

It all got a bit out of hand and, very quickly, passed the point at which I could come clean without pissing off a lot of people.

In short, "The Riddle" is nonsense, rubbish, bollocks, the confused ramblings of an 80's popstar.

Please forgive me. I knew not what I did.

^ okay, LOL!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link

ffs this Nick Heywood song goes on and on

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:34 (six years ago) link

Heh. I normally have all the time in the world for The Human League, but Billy Ocean is far the best thing that's happened on this episode so far!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link

Agreed. I don't understand how his career just stopped in the late '80s. He was still releasing records but no-one cared.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:42 (six years ago) link

You'd think that Murray Head would know the words.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:46 (six years ago) link

Actually I'd like to hear a John Peel cover version of 'One Night In Bangkok'.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:48 (six years ago) link

Fucking hell, Shakin' Stevens... truly bringing out the big guns this episode, eh!?

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:50 (six years ago) link

And now Shakin' Stevens' impersonation of a singer who gets voted off in the first live week of X Factor.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:50 (six years ago) link

I should have said this last time Nik was on, but christ he looks so uncomfortable holding that guitar!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:24 (six years ago) link

'80s Slade here with what can be best described as an audience participation number... I can think of another description for it, though!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link

Did they think this was going to take off as another seasonal staple a la 'Merry Xmas Everybody' or was this just the usual slab of Band Aid/Live Aid-era codswallop?

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:32 (six years ago) link

Ah Tina, finally some class.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:33 (six years ago) link

After some substandard '80s Kool and the Gang that didn't deliver on the promise of its title, Frankie Goes to Hollywood sound damn fucking excellent. Love this song.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:39 (six years ago) link

Seemingly every fucker on this episode is wearing one of those white "Feed The World" t-shirts... LOL at Alvin Stardust wear his on top of a non-more-mid '80s light blue long-sleeved button-up shirt.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link

ffs if Powell thought the video for 'Like A Virgin' was "provocative" fuck knows what he thought later.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link

Also I guess Alvin Stardust didn't have anything booked again this week?

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:51 (six years ago) link

Even at 10 years old childe snoball pegged Jim Diamond as coming over as a manipulative abusive creep in this song.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:53 (six years ago) link

Having the word Virgin in the title was provok in 1984

Xpost was that the point? 'I thought you'd understand' Oh Really?

Mark G, Friday, 10 November 2017 20:56 (six years ago) link

Looks like the rest of Black Lace had something else booked..

Mark G, Friday, 10 November 2017 20:57 (six years ago) link

I should have said this last time Nik was on, but christ he looks so uncomfortable holding that guitar!

Wasn't he one of those guys who was really a prog rocker, but ended up as a 'pop star' for a while? Like Howard Jones' and Kajagoogoo (not Limahl)? Or maybe it jazz fusion or something Nik Kershaw was into (and really wanted to be playing)?

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:58 (six years ago) link

Fuck, the way JD looked at the camera just then.
Also Black Lace, cheers for that. Actually I think there were only two of them and the rest were session musicians.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:58 (six years ago) link

I love how this episode reached it's absolute nadir at the very end, and this episode had 'The Riddle' being played throughout for some weird reason.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:58 (six years ago) link

You know how Goebells really really liked schlager music, and made sure that the German record industry during WW2 basically only produced schlager? So that that seemingly inoffensive light music was actually really political from then on? Well I've always thought that Black Lace are the kind of act that Goebells would have liked.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 10 November 2017 21:01 (six years ago) link

There used to be more. They were a Butlins band, their first single was "Bohemian Rhapsody", they may have been the first band I saw live..

Mark G, Friday, 10 November 2017 21:02 (six years ago) link

xxp I also like how their whole attitude to 'Do They Know It's Christmas?" at this point is "eh, it's just another charity record". They had no idea how big it would be.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 10 November 2017 21:02 (six years ago) link

Is this next one a repeat of Thursday's ep? Nick Heyward again... this sorta slap bass-tastic "funky" track really doesn't suit him at all... he really left Haircut 100 for this!?

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link

xxp I also like how their whole attitude to 'Do They Know It's Christmas?" at this point is "eh, it's just another charity record". They had no idea how big it would be.

― Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, November 10, 2017 9:02 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, absolutely! We're into the whole build-up to Live Aid period now essentially... it's going to be interesting following this from now into the post-Live Aid period.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 21:09 (six years ago) link

Yeah, it's a repeat of Thursday's episode... still gonna watch it anyway!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 21:09 (six years ago) link

this sorta slap bass-tastic "funky" track really doesn't suit him at all...

... with wanky whammy-barred 80s Guitar Mag solo.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Friday, 10 November 2017 21:13 (six years ago) link

Ha, yeah! It sounds like it was written to be a hit, but instead of writing a decent song they instead came up with a list of things that were popular in the mid '80s and smashed 'em together and hoped that'd do!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 21:20 (six years ago) link

Listening to Peel's and Vance's voices doing the chart rundown is making me seriously miss 'em both. Peel for all the obvious reasons, but I always enjoyed Vance enthusiastically talking about the joys of rrrrrock in that inimitable voice of his.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 21:24 (six years ago) link

It's funny, "Warning Sign" was the first Nick record I liked/ bought.

Mark G, Saturday, 11 November 2017 00:31 (six years ago) link

You know how Goebells really really liked schlager music, and made sure that the German record industry during WW2 basically only produced schlager? So that that seemingly inoffensive light music was actually really political from then on? Well I've always thought that Black Lace are the kind of act that Goebells would have liked.

Black Lace do remind me of schlager. Every part of continental Europe has an equivalent.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 00:47 (six years ago) link

Hang the fuck on, did Roy Wood re-record this!?

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 17 November 2017 20:34 (six years ago) link

Wikipedia says yes, because they wanted to re-release it but couldn't find the original tapes.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 17 November 2017 20:36 (six years ago) link

Heh! I thought there was something off about that version... I prefer the original, naturally.

I keep forgetting how well arranged 'We All Stand Together' is for a song aimed at children, it's McCartney taking 'Yellow Submarine' to an extreme...

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 17 November 2017 20:40 (six years ago) link


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