The long overdue _Blade Runner_ thread

*fweep* play on

*suddenly realizes, somehow for the first time, that there must be a shit-ton of Gaff/Deckard slashfic out there*

i thought this was pretty good. better than i figured it would be. i loved the score, and my theater had it turned up pretty fucking loud (but i guess that's standard these days). barkad abdi! the actress from black mirror that i just watched! hints that this is the 80s vision of the future carried forward (sanyo? pan am? *CCCP*??)

i have to admit that i don't get the conflict of the final third. either it wasn't clear or i'm dumm (or...)

it seemed like jared leto wanted to change the status quo and have his 'children' be able to reproduce on their own? so he needs to find the one born child to figure that out. it also seemed like luv had broken her subservience and was after the answer of reproduction for herself, by her own means? so ok they need to torture the girl's location out of deckard. and then the replicant underground needs this secret for themselves and don't want their masters to find it first (i couldn't tell if this group knew exactly who the girl is or where she is). so they need to kill deckard before he can give up the answer. but... they all want the same thing? free replicants? idk i feel like i'm missing something obvious.

some of the investigation, like how rachel's dna matched up the one plastic chip archive to the clear marble memory archive didn't really line up for me either, but eh

this idea hollywood has of jared leto as a spooky creepyman is so off, who is buying this. i'm so sick of these villains! look around, look at tech, look at the news. your average terror CEO is self-assured, cheerful, manicured, normal, centrist, and utterly banal. should have just had gary cole, living on earth's last leafy golf community or something. keep the little flying scanners tho.

http://www.theonion.com/video/jared-leto-thanks-acting-for-being-an-easy-thing-t-35413

or flip some actors & roles around and the villain is elizabeth holmes if she wasn't a fraud

Wallace and Luv didn't want free replicants. I mean, there's no indication her obedience to humans restriction isn't there, it's just she does whatever works for her boss. They wanted to find out about replicant reproduction so there could be multiple generations of ready-made slaves without building more factories. They just churn out little baby replicants and when they get to a certain age you can have them shoot each other or break rocks or whatever it is replicants do offworld.

Deckard and Rachel's kid wasn't necessarily a way forward for today's replicants, but a powerful way of building their cause. K was starting to have some serious improvements in self worth when he thought he might have been born and not decanted.

*suddenly realizes, somehow for the first time, that there must be a shit-ton of Gaff/Deckard slashfic out there*

https://i.imgur.com/qwxUUWE.jpg

hmm ok yeah. guess i couldn't parse from leto's speech if tyrell had put some kind of block on reproduction into the replicants' code (and leto couldn't crack it) OR if reproduction was itself something that tyrell couldn't figure out how to get right

sorry that is not supposed to be that big xpost

ok lol

Tyrell was the only one who figured out replicant reproduction and Wallace can’t get it right

he in fact stated this explicitly

seen this thrice now. every time I watch Jared Leto I feel like they filmed his cold reads or somethin

How...how have you spent nearly nine hours of your life like this?!

I have a lot of shit i want to avoid in the outside world these days

just watchin the OG final cut and - this has to have been mentioned before - but how come Harrison Ford's grizzled blade runner has to have the simplest facts about replicants explained to him?

because he's stupid?

isn't he supposed to know more about them than practically anybody else?

Easier to break than build

he just hunts n kills 'em, no genius required

hey buddy he's doing a kindness sitting there listening to the facts, he knows the audience on the other side of the fourth wall knows nothing

if you want the conspiratorial version, it's because at the beginning of the film he's still getting his bearings from having been born a couple days prior

Fact

hauer just so outrageously good value

"where would i find this j.f. sebastian?" is what presumably was written on the page but hauer turns it into a Moment

Yeah. Anthony Hopkins possessing a lean Schwarzenegger

haha yes

and now all is swept away in what momentum obtains in Woozy Dread

is Pris just drawn to J.F. in some kind of homing instinct? it can't be coincidence that in all of a depopulated L.A. that she winds up in a garbage heap outside his. but they've never met. he acts like he doesn't know her but he has to doesn't he? or know OF her. (i think he's being kind and gentle to her, playing a part to allow her to feel more human)

I think Pris is there as part of a plan, not coincidence?

And I don't recall any hint he knows she's a replicant until the hand in the water

He's an innocent, beautifully played too

darragh otm

like the only thing most of the replicants in the original wanted was to live longer and disappear into society.

Roy, though, he was a special boy. They might not have pursued the life angle without him.

seein this shit tonight

ah pris has a plan! i have forgotten most of this stuff

zhora death truly horrific & abject. ford as terminator.

that was an actually well-shot remade scene in the final cut!

in the original you can tell it’s a stuntperson

how come Harrison Ford's grizzled blade runner has to have the simplest facts about replicants explained to him?

??

isn't deckard supposed to be some old blade runner veteran called back for one last job? "we need the ol' blade runner magic!" m. emmet walsh then.... explains what replicants are, that they're programmed not to have emotions, they have a "failsafe" that they live four years etc - ford acts like it's all news to him

he explains what the nexus 6 line is

ah these all came out while deckard was just kickin it, losing his edge! got it

it is true i miss plot stuff in movies. more than the average person probably. but some stuff that's not really signposted imo? the apartment where deckard finds the snake scale for instance i did NOT clock that it was leon's (though it makes sense that it is)

anyway i'll shut up now and get back to the Throbbing Dread Vibes

yeah my sense was that he was coming out of retirement and unfamiliar w nexus 6, not replicants in general

this implies that nexus 5 replicants live forever but look like bender

what are throbbing dread vibes? sounds awesome

i was wrong it's Sexy Sax Vibes now

or is it just plain sexual assault vibes

I assume all the nexus models are bioengineered, but the early models were... less good

Hauer is incredible - this time rewatching more than ever I was just transfixed. every moment on screen is so good. The way he delivers his lines, carries himself, the slightest move is so deliberate

for such a good actor he sure is in a lot of shitty movies tho

enh he had BR, The Hitcher, Flesh + Blood and the other early Verhoevens, the nursery scene in Hobo With a Shotgun, pretty good run imho

http://m.imdb.com/name/nm0000442/filmotype/actor?ref_=m_nmfm_1

If you've never seen Turkish Delight...it's really something

And yeah he's been a depressing paycheck guy for a long time. His appearance in Valerian is almost comically snoozy.

xp he has definitely been in some great movies but the sheer volume of low budget crap on his imdb page is something to behold