The comparison ends there, those teams are nothing alike.
One thing that seems potentially similar is that both teams have/had a core group of young players that may be there for a while: Jeter/Rivera/Williams/Posada, Judge/Gregorius/Sanchez/Bird. Longshot, but I can that in broad outline. The '96 team was definitely more in the rent-a-star mold.
― clemenza, Saturday, 14 October 2017 01:12 (six years ago) link
That '96 Yankees team had a deep bench of renowned veteran players: Boggs, Strawberry, Mariano Duncan, Charlie Hayes, Cecil Fielder and Tim Raines.
― earlnash, Saturday, 14 October 2017 01:22 (six years ago) link
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22past+a+diving+gregorius
― Andy K, Saturday, 14 October 2017 01:22 (six years ago) link
Imagine the renown Altuve might earn once these games move to a channel people have.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 14 October 2017 01:30 (six years ago) link
someone tell Bucksuck even the Productive Out purveyors don't use it when it's the second out.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 14 October 2017 01:32 (six years ago) link
gurriels a good hitter imo
infield of correa / altuve / yuli / bregman is v sick offensively
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 14 October 2017 01:33 (six years ago) link
Houston looks impressive but their fans look like douchebags
― calstars, Saturday, 14 October 2017 01:37 (six years ago) link
Bucksuck
...
― qualx, Saturday, 14 October 2017 01:46 (six years ago) link
They're not going to overturn that.
― Andy K, Saturday, 14 October 2017 01:50 (six years ago) link
not Bronxdouchey
too bad the Baby Bombers didn't capitalize dere
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 14 October 2017 01:51 (six years ago) link
Keuchel killing it.
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 14 October 2017 02:12 (six years ago) link
we still have a shot at time of game ~3:00
:0
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 14 October 2017 02:27 (six years ago) link
Is Greg Bird's number a nod to Larry's?
― calstars, Saturday, 14 October 2017 02:35 (six years ago) link
80% of astros fans prob prioritize hs football text updates over this game but w/e
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 14 October 2017 03:08 (six years ago) link
CC looks very comfortable in the post season judging from the cuts to him laughing and palling around
― calstars, Saturday, 14 October 2017 03:13 (six years ago) link
thanks for the update
― qualx, Saturday, 14 October 2017 03:21 (six years ago) link
u r so mad lol
― k3vin k., Saturday, 14 October 2017 03:24 (six years ago) link
"CC smiles in dugout" would be a great daily news cover to be sure
― qualx, Saturday, 14 October 2017 03:28 (six years ago) link
can't imagine anyone i'd want to have up less than fucking ellsbury right now
― k3vin k., Saturday, 14 October 2017 03:29 (six years ago) link
yeah was going to say it was game over when Ellsbury came up, could see it in Giles' body language.
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 14 October 2017 03:32 (six years ago) link
i'm taking classes about body language in my mba so now i know about these things.
Giles threw a lot of pitches to get just four outs.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, 14 October 2017 03:32 (six years ago) link
this'll be the first ever soft toss world series
― qualx, Saturday, 14 October 2017 03:34 (six years ago) link
Make that five outs. Point stands though!
I rewatched Marwin Gonzalez's throw a bunch of times this morning -- such an insanely great play that only gets better each time I see it.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, 14 October 2017 12:05 (six years ago) link
HOUSTON JEFFREY MAIER— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) October 14, 2017
― Andy K, Saturday, 14 October 2017 21:26 (six years ago) link
2h20 to play seven innings? It's a playoff miracle!
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, 14 October 2017 22:36 (six years ago) link
Verlander's got the good stuff tonight
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 14 October 2017 22:39 (six years ago) link
fortunate to have verlander dealing tonight after giles goes so long last night
― k3vin k., Saturday, 14 October 2017 22:42 (six years ago) link
Imagine how good he'd be if he had been receptive to Jack Morris' advice!
― Andy K, Saturday, 14 October 2017 22:44 (six years ago) link
hinch is dustying
― qualx, Saturday, 14 October 2017 22:51 (six years ago) link
More Verlander ...
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, 14 October 2017 22:51 (six years ago) link
He's anti-dustying. Dusty would bring in his 5th best reliever, then his 4th best, etc. unless it's a save situation. Hinch trusts only his closer.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, 14 October 2017 22:54 (six years ago) link
93 strikes?
― Andy K, Saturday, 14 October 2017 22:59 (six years ago) link
Called strikes-Swinging strikes-Foul balls-In play strikes:Verlander 25-25-25-18
― mookieproof, Saturday, 14 October 2017 23:00 (six years ago) link
fuck him up tuves
― qualx, Saturday, 14 October 2017 23:06 (six years ago) link
why isn't he in the HOF yet idgi
― qualx, Saturday, 14 October 2017 23:11 (six years ago) link
terrible send!
― mookieproof, Saturday, 14 October 2017 23:11 (six years ago) link
gotta love chapman shitting the bed (now that he isn't a a cub)
― na (NA), Saturday, 14 October 2017 23:12 (six years ago) link
Great ending!
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 14 October 2017 23:14 (six years ago) link
yeah that was a bad send, sanchez absolutely has to make that play. inexcusable
― k3vin k., Saturday, 14 October 2017 23:20 (six years ago) link
Sending Altuve was a bit insane but considering the game situation it's a good gamble even if he makes it about 20% of the time (I'm sure the usual sites will calculate this).
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, 14 October 2017 23:23 (six years ago) link
that's the legend of future hall of famer jose altuve
did you notice how he quickly swooped dusty baker's small child out of the way before completing his slide
― qualx, Saturday, 14 October 2017 23:23 (six years ago) link
Not pictured: José Altuve #ALCS pic.twitter.com/TOKLY6kacD— The Ringer (@ringer) October 14, 2017
― rip van wanko, Saturday, 14 October 2017 23:32 (six years ago) link
AND he craned his neck to look at the damn ball after he rounded the bag.
― Andy K, Saturday, 14 October 2017 23:34 (six years ago) link
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, October 14, 2017 7:23 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah i would be very interested in seeing the math for this, if you come across a breakdown please link
― k3vin k., Saturday, 14 October 2017 23:37 (six years ago) link
it's a good gamble even if he makes it about 20% of the time
Is it? Runner on 3rd with 1 out in a tie game is a pretty good situation, isn't it?
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 14 October 2017 23:38 (six years ago) link
OK, I did a quick calculation using the run expectation data here and came up with 18 percent. That's assuming that each team has equal chances of winning if it goes to extras (which isn't really true -- the home team would have a slight advantage) and not taking into account the pitchers (e.g. the difficulty of scoring off Chapman in the 9th compared to what the run expectation table would tell you).
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, 14 October 2017 23:58 (six years ago) link
i'm not sure how you got that from that table? but then again, i'm not sure what was meant by "it's a good gamble even if he makes it about 20% of the time" either, heh
that table does show, though, that the probability of scoring at least one run when runners are at second and third with one out is about 69%, nice. so if altuve would have held up at third, as he should have, they still would have had a 69% nice chance of scoring and winning the game.
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 15 October 2017 00:05 (six years ago) link
After visiting Theodore Roosevelt's birthplace site, I saw the last 2 innings at a gay sports bar and yelled quite loudly at the end, annoying the Stankee rooters.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 15 October 2017 00:24 (six years ago) link
I see now that I read a number wrong from that table. But you're right, with x23 and one out there's a 69% chance of winning the game in the ninth, and a 31% chance that the game goes to extras (and I gave them a 50% chance of winning in extras). With a similar calculation for sending the runner (if he makes it you win, if he doesn't you have x2x and two outs and can win in the ninth or in extras) and now the calculation gives 59%! So yeah, it's a terrible gamble because you have to be safe more than 59% of the time for it to pay off.
If there had been two outs, it's a simpler calculation and the break even point is 28%.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 15 October 2017 00:28 (six years ago) link
This was certainly one way to get around the problem of having a crappy bullpen. Congrats Astros!
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 22 October 2017 03:21 (six years ago) link
super impressive by morton/mcullers
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 22 October 2017 03:22 (six years ago) link
McCullers said "Everyone wrote us off"?!
― Andy K, Sunday, 22 October 2017 03:24 (six years ago) link
must be first franchise to win both league's pennants?
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 22 October 2017 03:26 (six years ago) link
Larry Mullen Jr is a god
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Sunday, 22 October 2017 03:26 (six years ago) link
"We have no problems, Houston." JESUS.
― Andy K, Sunday, 22 October 2017 03:33 (six years ago) link
i completely 100% always forget that the astros won the pennant in 2005
i can only ever think of the pujols HR so my brain keeps thinking the cards won
― qualx, Sunday, 22 October 2017 03:38 (six years ago) link
and i have a very clear memory of the white sox winning but not vs houston, it's weird to even imagine them in the WS before now
― qualx, Sunday, 22 October 2017 03:39 (six years ago) link
if you'd sat through the 18 inning ALDS Astros-Braves game you'd remember
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Sunday, 22 October 2017 03:40 (six years ago) link
oh wait, they were still in the national league then
Lance McCullers finished the game by throwing 24 consecutive curveballs. That is absurd.— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) October 22, 2017
― Andy K, Sunday, 22 October 2017 03:43 (six years ago) link
what a performance by former pirate great charlie morton
― mookieproof, Sunday, 22 October 2017 03:44 (six years ago) link
I did sit through that game! my brain also remembered it being vs the cards and not the braves lol
― qualx, Sunday, 22 October 2017 03:45 (six years ago) link
A-Rod: "How do you say his name, Gur--"Burkhardt: "Oh, uh, Gattis?"
― Andy K, Sunday, 22 October 2017 03:48 (six years ago) link
This is the first matchup of 100-win teams in the World Series since 1970, when the 108-win Orioles beat the 102-win Reds.— ESPN Stats & Info (@ESPNStatsInfo) October 22, 2017
― Andy K, Sunday, 22 October 2017 03:53 (six years ago) link
https://cdn.newsday.com/polopoly_fs/1.14523003.1508342305!/httpImage/image.png_gen/derivatives/landscape_640/image.png
― nomar, Sunday, 22 October 2017 03:55 (six years ago) link
the Cards loomed large in the mid-2000s era of Astros baseball
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Sunday, 22 October 2017 04:02 (six years ago) link
mostly I remember Julian Tavarez breaking his hand punching the phone box in the bullpen
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Sunday, 22 October 2017 04:04 (six years ago) link
i remember julian tavarez!
― qualx, Sunday, 22 October 2017 04:06 (six years ago) link
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, October 21, 2017 11:26 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
cards dodgers reds apparently
wait nvm i was thinking of willy taveras
― qualx, Sunday, 22 October 2017 04:07 (six years ago) link
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/nribztwbrq3jilw5qbmm.jpg
― qualx, Sunday, 22 October 2017 04:09 (six years ago) link
The great Astros playoff series I remember is their big match up against the Mets in 86. They played arguably the best extra inning playoff game ever in that series and it was the beginning of the legend of Billy Hatcher, who again in 1990 was a huge playoff hero for the Reds.
― earlnash, Sunday, 22 October 2017 04:10 (six years ago) link
what a performance by former pirate great braves castoff charlie morton― mookieproof, Sunday, 22 October 2017 03:44 (one hour ago) Permalink
― mookieproof, Sunday, 22 October 2017 03:44 (one hour ago) Permalink
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 22 October 2017 05:08 (six years ago) link
Between the two of them, Morton and McCullers—two delicate arms whom many teams might not have trusted with postseason starts, or in Morton’s case, a multiyear contract—threw 65 curves in 108 pitches on Saturday, which was easily the highest-ever curveball usage rate (60.2 percent) in a single game. (According to Pitch Info data provided by David Appelman of FanGraphs, the highest previous single-game team curveball percentage in the pitch-tracking era was 52.5 percent, by the Dodgers on May 23, 2015, and no pitcher has ever relied on the curve as heavily in an outing of 50 or more pitches as McCullers did in Game 7.)
https://www.theringer.com/2017/10/22/16515788/houston-astros-beat-new-york-yankees-in-alcs-game-7
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 22 October 2017 06:51 (six years ago) link
Man, I dunno, but watching McCullers throw 19 curveballs in a row makes you wonder whether everybody been doing this wrong for 150 (!) years— Sam Miller (@SamMillerBB) October 22, 2017
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 22 October 2017 14:58 (six years ago) link
just catching up on this game..... holy shit @ the bregman throw to mccann in the 5th the courage, the trust, the execution whoeeee
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 22 October 2017 19:59 (six years ago) link
and loooool at springer jumping over marwin for that catch! and marwin just leaning himself against the fence, like sheeeeeeeit
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 22 October 2017 20:39 (six years ago) link
love Houston now. <3 <3 springer catching that last pop-up, holding his glove up with one hand and pointing with the other and shouting "LET'S GO!!"
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 22 October 2017 21:15 (six years ago) link
https://d26dzxoao6i3hh.cloudfront.net/items/0o2i3a3s193R3Y2v311l/IMG_7286.jpghttp://www.mlb.com/images/3/6/0/259282360/102117_springer_gonzalez_med.gif
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 22 October 2017 21:27 (six years ago) link
still can't believe 28 curveballs to finish the game
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 October 2017 14:42 (six years ago) link
yikes, hope they can make it work pic.twitter.com/pKi0lJx02m— Meg Rowley (@megrowler) October 22, 2017
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/HmGPaIbuHXWTqX7sqhkRREcIHBE=/1000x0/filters:no_upscale%28%29/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/9510335/Screen_Shot_2017_10_21_at_10.03.15_PM.jpg
― mookieproof, Monday, 23 October 2017 16:09 (six years ago) link
my guess is altuve and JV could be co-MVPs
― Michael F Gill
That would have been my pick too. I know they did that for the '81 Dodgers in the World Series (three guys, I think)--maybe they don't do it for the LCS.
― clemenza, Monday, 23 October 2017 16:59 (six years ago) link