Weinsteins step down as Miramax CEOs

Oh I read the whole thing I just wanted to pile on

Anyway the company’s doomed

http://www.vulture.com/2017/10/the-weinstein-company-may-be-sold-or-shut-down-entirely.html

the part about getting to the airport and then getting the call over the intercom that was like straight out of a horror movie holy crap

what strikes me again is how many people were involved in setting this up, even in the face of protests and discomfort and people literally trying to escape on airplanes!

Hell, he’s almost as bad as Bryan Singer.

My heart started racing at certain points of sagemiller's story

it was an excellent soberly-written (minimal hyperbole/jokes) detailed explanation. i enjoyed reading it and identified with a lot of the details.

I definitely recognize the way organizational culture plays into it. You arrive in your first internship or whatever and you see the people around you behaving in a certain way regarding a boss and it seems off but it's not your place to raise it. Eventually you either play the game and get absorbed into the culture or you leave. Not that I've ever worked somewhere on Weinstein level of bad but I can see how the dynamic plays out with a bad boss.

Is the Singer stuff confirmed? I remember that big lawsuit against him being dismissed when he had proof that the accuser's story didn't line up with a timeline or something, but I saw on Wikipedia there were some other accusations that sounded a bit iffy

gives me the Louis B Mayer chills

Someone mentioned upthread or elsewhere that if there was ever a time for Corey Feldman to name names, it’s now ... same with the Singer stuff
I would hope that seeing all these women share their stories & letting themselves be named might give victims of other abuses some hope idk

There’s so many known secrets that have caused so many people so much pain

Just do what I say and you can get your way.

That’s the most interesting thing about this for me as a social science dabbler. I’ve been thinking about how this is fortunately absolutely not part of the corporate culture where I work, never has been, but I’ve certainly heard of other government offices, research shops, and we all know about military units where this kind of shit festers.

At least in most of the public sector, inspectors general and employee ombudsman offices are mandated - so this kind of casting couch shit doesn’t last long, if it’s reported. I realize that’s a big if.

That was an xp to man alive

now i am going to google her to see who she is, i have no idea.

In a movie with Mika Kunis and Kirsten Dunst when she resisted...

more and more

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4979384/Eva-Green-managed-escape-Harvey-Weinstein.html

aye but use other sources plz

http://ew.com/tv/2017/10/13/russell-moore-de-niro-series-weinstein-company-scrapped-amazon/

In a movie with Mika Kunis and Kirsten Dunst when she resisted...

iirc she mentioned they were underage in the thing posted above?

The guy has principles after all.

I mean ... what confirmation do you need re: Singer? Same as Weinstein, he’s a powerful. Nothing ever ends up on an official record, there’s just a mounting body of anecdotes that eventually snowball into an irrefutable awareness of behaviors r. And I *know* people who, first hand, report on Singer. Like Weinstein or Cosby or Ailes, nobody saw anything too damning, nothing that can’t be waved away away by a superpowered legal team, and there are always implied to be credibility problems with the people stepping forward.

there are always implied to be credibility problems with the people stepping forward.

"Today, in a stunning coincidence, fifty women who do not know one another came forward with shockingly similar stories about the predatory sexual behavior of a powerful man. In a statement issued by the man's lawyer, the women were all said to be lying, for reasons that will become apparent once they've had time to study the situation in greater detail."

remy otm

The sense I'm getting around town is that people are feeling empowered to come forward about other people now. One example is a friend of a friend whose wife worked at UTA as an assistant and was sexually harassed by the agent she worked for. She went to HR with evidence (lewd and disgusting texts, and so on.) the head of HR there told her, "we're not here for your pity party."

This revelation was in response to the head of UTA releasing a statement talking BS about how shocked and appalled he was etc...

Bob has things to say.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/bob-weinstein-gets-emotional-depraved-harvey-saving-company-his-waking-nightmare-1048905

popbitch does also

http://popbitch.com/2017/10/inches-for-inches/

“No you’re here to create an illusion that the company is a responsible workplace.”

great op ed from the NYT about how women who get assaulted are asking for it. thanks for furthering discourse https://t.co/HhOkMiBICN

— Ghouls N. Binoculars (@surfbordt) October 14, 2017

Sorry, missed that it was already discussed.

Emma Thompson - one of the more radical prime-time interviews I've ever seen.

Radical would not have been "we need more women in power," it would be "power differentials this great must be destroyed."

a bit fucked up that sagemiller mentioned charlize and zellweger by name, a million times more fucked up that huffpo didn't blank them out

even if harvey was lying, none of the names of women who did or didn't sleep with him should be made public without their permission

i went to the reddit thread on r/movies on this after the NYT story initially came out to see their reactions bc i hate myself, and it immediately turned into a witch hunt over which ones were "harvey's girls"

a lot of people are just as hungry to hate the women he successfully manipulated as they are him

Oh good a strong leftist man is here to tell us what the barriers to entry are for radical

are you serious

that huffpo article also includes a fun "representatives for theron and zellweger have not responded to us" disclaimer as if they're both under trial too

^^ This is where Clooney’s comments seemed on the mark: that he had heard stories, but they were mostly shared to knock the talent of the actors (“slept her way up”), not to damn Harvey. Certainly heard that about some of the 90s stars in the past.

In a movie with Mika Kunis and Kirsten Dunst when she resisted...

iirc she mentioned they were underage in the thing posted above?

He may not have hit on him then, but the one he did hit on and was rejected by is now the name we’ve never heard of.

specifically said it was on huffpo to redact the names but if you think names of women accused of sleeping with harvey are good to publish without their consent idk what to tell you, this is pretty basic shit xp

ok lol tombot if you were referring to that twitter post and not me i'm sorry i got livid for a second, if you were referring to me fuck off

oh now i see the simon post, forgot you hated each other, ignore me

enh "more female studio heads" isn't a *wrong* solution just an insufficient one. I don't hate anyone, just the discourse more generally

The solution is forced castration obv

I don’t hate anyone here either tbf, I’m just a dick.

same, <3 you all, saving my hate for capitalist hetero-patriarchy

i hate all of you

i hate myself

I hate the world, and any god that exists

Good talk

Sarah Polley OTM now and always:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/14/opinion/sunday/harvey-weinstein-sarah-polley.html

I hate myself for thinking of "Withnail and I", wiki you take over...

Early in the film, Withnail reads from an article headlined "Boy Lands Plum Role For Top Italian Director" and then goes on to imply that the director is sexually abusing the boy. This is a reference to the sexual harassment that Robinson alleges he suffered at the hands of Italian director Franco Zeffirelli when, as a young man, he won the role of Benvolio in Romeo and Juliet.[6]

fuck, i didnt know abt that :/

Withnail: [looking at a newspaper] Look at this little bastard. Boy lands plumb role for top Italian director. Of course he does. Probably on a tenner a day and I know what for: Two pound ten a tit and a fiver for his arse.