Weinsteins step down as Miramax CEOs

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i hate all of you

qualx, Saturday, 14 October 2017 22:52 (six years ago) link

i hate myself

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 14 October 2017 23:11 (six years ago) link

I hate the world, and any god that exists

El Tomboto, Saturday, 14 October 2017 23:23 (six years ago) link

Good talk

El Tomboto, Saturday, 14 October 2017 23:23 (six years ago) link

Sarah Polley OTM now and always:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/14/opinion/sunday/harvey-weinstein-sarah-polley.html

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 14 October 2017 23:28 (six years ago) link

I hate myself for thinking of "Withnail and I", wiki you take over...

Early in the film, Withnail reads from an article headlined "Boy Lands Plum Role For Top Italian Director" and then goes on to imply that the director is sexually abusing the boy. This is a reference to the sexual harassment that Robinson alleges he suffered at the hands of Italian director Franco Zeffirelli when, as a young man, he won the role of Benvolio in Romeo and Juliet.[6]

Tom's Tits Experiment (Tom D.), Saturday, 14 October 2017 23:32 (six years ago) link

fuck, i didnt know abt that :/

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 14 October 2017 23:39 (six years ago) link

Withnail: [looking at a newspaper] Look at this little bastard. Boy lands plumb role for top Italian director. Of course he does. Probably on a tenner a day and I know what for: Two pound ten a tit and a fiver for his arse.

Tom's Tits Experiment (Tom D.), Saturday, 14 October 2017 23:42 (six years ago) link

Sarah Polley OTM now and always
otm

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 14 October 2017 23:45 (six years ago) link

xpost seen Withnail a million times & never knew the story behind it

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 14 October 2017 23:46 (six years ago) link

Fuck.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 14 October 2017 23:59 (six years ago) link

Funny, I thought that was well known -- I've read at least one interview years back with Robinson where he casually mentions that.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 October 2017 00:36 (six years ago) link

Oh yeah, I thought everyone knew about that, I'm not sure I buy the theory that Monty is based on Zeffirelli though.

Tom's Tits Experiment (Tom D.), Sunday, 15 October 2017 00:40 (six years ago) link

mila kunis popped up in some of the stories - though not as a participant, weinstein using her name a few times in his traps. dude was obsessed with her?

Nhex, Sunday, 15 October 2017 03:04 (six years ago) link

Love her xp

flappy bird, Sunday, 15 October 2017 03:10 (six years ago) link

Bjork on her FB page an hour ago...

i am inspired by the women everywhere who are speaking up online to tell about my experience with a danish director . because i come from a country that is one of the worlds place closest to equality between the sexes and at the time i came from position of strength in the music world with hard earned independence , it was extremely clear to me when i walked into the actresses profession that my humiliation and role as a lesser sexually harassed being was the norm and set in stone with the director and a staff of dozens who enabled it and encouraged it . i became aware of that it is a universal thing that a director can touch and harass his actresses at will and the institution of film allows it . when i turned the director down repeatedly he sulked and punished me and created for his team an impressive net of illusion where i was framed as the difficult one . because of my strength , my great team and because i had nothing to loose having no ambitions in the acting world , i walked away from it and recovered in a years time . i am worried though that other actresses working with the same man did not . the director was fully aware of this game and i am sure of that the film he made after was based on his experiences with me . because i was the first one that stood up to him and didn't let him get away with it

and in my opinion he had a more fair and meaningful relationship with his actresses after my confrontation so there is hope

let's hope this statement supports the actresses and actors all over

let's stop this

there is a wave of change in the world

kindness

björk

MaresNest, Sunday, 15 October 2017 14:14 (six years ago) link

Lars von Trier?

Moodles, Sunday, 15 October 2017 14:15 (six years ago) link

Indeed

MaresNest, Sunday, 15 October 2017 14:17 (six years ago) link

good for Bjork, though it's a little odd to not name names there when everyone knows who she's talking about.

evol j, Sunday, 15 October 2017 14:17 (six years ago) link

It was clear she had a horrible experience with him as soon as that film came out, but sexual harassment wasn't really called out at the time.

Moodles, Sunday, 15 October 2017 14:27 (six years ago) link

Indeed, sadly it's not surprising. Good for her for stepping up to the plate.

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 15 October 2017 14:37 (six years ago) link

so he was kicked out of the Academy with the accompanying statement “We do so not simply to separate ourselves from someone who does not merit the respect of his colleagues but also to send a message that the era of willful ignorance and shameful complicity in sexually predatory behavior and workplace harassment in our industry is over.”

yet Cosby and Polanski are still members. only one other person has been kicked out of the academy, and for the dumbest fucking reason. what could possibly be worse than decades of harassment, intimidation, and rape?

if you guessed "piracy" then you share the Academy's moral code

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 15 October 2017 15:04 (six years ago) link

They kicked gore verbinski out?

"The" Blink-182 (wins), Sunday, 15 October 2017 15:06 (six years ago) link

It was clear she had a horrible experience with him as soon as that film came out, but sexual harassment wasn't really called out at the time.

This is my recollection as well. I mean, she pretty much immediately stopped acting entirely.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 15 October 2017 15:26 (six years ago) link

AMPAS cutting Weinstein loose will end sexual harassment/assault in the industry in much the same way that Obama's election ended racism.

the scarest move i ever seen is scary move 4 (Old Lunch), Sunday, 15 October 2017 15:30 (six years ago) link

Polley makes a very good point in her op-ed wrt criticism towards women who knew about this didn't speak up earlier. In a country where Trump was elected and Cosby sailed through legal proceedings unscathed, why would they expect anyone to care about what they'd experienced? The burden of proof and the likely career-destroying fallout was all on their shoulders.

the scarest move i ever seen is scary move 4 (Old Lunch), Sunday, 15 October 2017 16:03 (six years ago) link

Sad!

It is a situation that is highly sensitive and most would probably want to keep far away from any talk of sexual misconduct. This does not include Woody Allen, who shared his thoughts on Harvey Weinstein with BBC News:

“The whole Harvey Weinstein thing is very sad for everybody involved,” he added. “Tragic for the poor women that were involved, sad for Harvey that [his] life is so messed up.

“There’s no winners in that, it’s just very, very sad and tragic for those poor women that had to go through that.”

Allen said he hoped the revelations, which emerged after an investigation by the New York Times, would lead to “some amelioration”, but said: “You also don’t want it to lead to a witch hunt atmosphere, a Salem atmosphere, where every guy in an office who winks at a woman is suddenly having to call a lawyer to defend himself. That’s not right either.

“But sure, you hope that something like this could be transformed into a benefit for people rather than just a sad or tragic situation.”

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 15 October 2017 16:03 (six years ago) link

He should shut up

.oO (silby), Sunday, 15 October 2017 16:24 (six years ago) link

sad, tragic, tragic, sad

jmm, Sunday, 15 October 2017 16:33 (six years ago) link

sad for Harvey that his life is so messed up.

boo-fuckin-hoo

Tom's Tits Experiment (Tom D.), Sunday, 15 October 2017 16:59 (six years ago) link

I like that bracketed “his,” implying Woody Allen’s assessment of the situation is “sad for Harvey that life is so messed up.”

flappy bird, Sunday, 15 October 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link

But despite working with Weinstein on a number of films - including the Oscar-winning Mighty Aphrodite - Allen said he had never heard any of allegations of rape and sexual assault.

"No one ever came to me or told me horror stories with any real seriousness," Allen told the BBC. "And they wouldn't, because you are not interested in it. You are interested in making your movie.

"But you do hear a million fanciful rumours all the time. And some turn out to be true and some - many - are just stories about this actress, or that actor."

So... he heard stories about Weinstein, but wasn't interested and didn't take them seriously? Is that what he's saying?

jmm, Sunday, 15 October 2017 17:15 (six years ago) link

such surprising behavior from woody allen, who still isn't dead somehow

qualx, Sunday, 15 October 2017 17:20 (six years ago) link

“As the husband of a daughter...” https://t.co/Wnka8UxnJc

— Katie Rich (@katiemaryrich) October 15, 2017

sublime

j., Sunday, 15 October 2017 17:35 (six years ago) link

BOOM

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 15 October 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link

I wouldn’t mind if HW, Polanski, Allen, Affleck and Stone all got the Gary Glitter treatment and had all their “contributions” replaced by some young assholes from Akron

El Tomboto, Sunday, 15 October 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link

It's ridiculous that entire months of Top Of The Pops repeats get skipped in the UK because of one presenter. There are hundreds of ppl who miss out on royalties, and had no connection to the crimes, the perpetrator, or the organisation that paid him. Far more working actors and writers would miss out on residuals that might pay for groceries if you drop any film that Weinstein bought after the fact and marketed, or Affleck played a bit part in, down a memory hole.

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Sunday, 15 October 2017 19:48 (six years ago) link

That’s a really good point. Anger has remarkable blinding effects.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 15 October 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link

also I don't know if the Black Keys are actually assholes, but chances are

El Tomboto, Sunday, 15 October 2017 20:13 (six years ago) link

Re: TOTP, feels to me like skipping those episodes is willfully ignoring the issue, when we should really be facing up to our complicity in it as a nation.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 15 October 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link

also I don't know if the Black Keys are actually assholes, but chances are

― El Tomboto, Sunday, October 15, 2017 4:13 PM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i've heard some bad stories about the guitarist from friends in Nashville. just a general asshole, doesn't take care of his kid, etc.

flappy bird, Sunday, 15 October 2017 20:34 (six years ago) link

we should really be facing up to our complicity in it as a nation.

I'll add it to the list, but it's going to have to wait its turn and seeing how many crimes are nation is complicit in, the chances are I won't live long enough. I'm still working my way through the list of millions of SE Asians we slaughtered.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 15 October 2017 20:37 (six years ago) link

xxp given that several of saville's victims have spoken about how awful it was to see him on tv all the time, i think cutting him out is the right move. totp is not the right forum for a serious look at an abuser

ogmor, Sunday, 15 October 2017 21:15 (six years ago) link

what about the royalties for performers & other ppl involved?

flappy bird, Sunday, 15 October 2017 21:16 (six years ago) link

I should say I'm American & only know broad outlines of Savile's career & crimes, and I certainly understand networks here refusing to air Cosby Show reruns.

flappy bird, Sunday, 15 October 2017 21:18 (six years ago) link

they're less important

ogmor, Sunday, 15 October 2017 21:18 (six years ago) link

of all the reasons to stop airing reruns and therefore cause performers to lose royalities I think "the host was a pedophile" is a much better one than "the ratings aren't great." Actually I'd imagine the latter might go hand in hand with the former.

nomar, Sunday, 15 October 2017 21:23 (six years ago) link

Think he was enabled not just by institutions, but also by the public's indulgence of celebrities, the same thing is going on now, famous people are given extra leeway for their behaviour because they are good at one specific thing, bad people will take advantage of this culture to do bad things. We really need to address this underlying problem and the BBC strategy is instead to aggressively ignore it.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 15 October 2017 22:03 (six years ago) link

the public's indulgence of celebrities

this is also why this particular asshole and his enablers are currently all over the teevee being denounced and openly reviled. Hundreds of thousands of other victims of the same kind of assholism in other industries are still trying to figure out how to be heard.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 15 October 2017 22:30 (six years ago) link


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