Weinsteins step down as Miramax CEOs

It was clear she had a horrible experience with him as soon as that film came out, but sexual harassment wasn't really called out at the time.

This is my recollection as well. I mean, she pretty much immediately stopped acting entirely.

AMPAS cutting Weinstein loose will end sexual harassment/assault in the industry in much the same way that Obama's election ended racism.

Polley makes a very good point in her op-ed wrt criticism towards women who knew about this didn't speak up earlier. In a country where Trump was elected and Cosby sailed through legal proceedings unscathed, why would they expect anyone to care about what they'd experienced? The burden of proof and the likely career-destroying fallout was all on their shoulders.

Sad!

It is a situation that is highly sensitive and most would probably want to keep far away from any talk of sexual misconduct. This does not include Woody Allen, who shared his thoughts on Harvey Weinstein with BBC News:

“The whole Harvey Weinstein thing is very sad for everybody involved,” he added. “Tragic for the poor women that were involved, sad for Harvey that [his] life is so messed up.

“There’s no winners in that, it’s just very, very sad and tragic for those poor women that had to go through that.”

Allen said he hoped the revelations, which emerged after an investigation by the New York Times, would lead to “some amelioration”, but said: “You also don’t want it to lead to a witch hunt atmosphere, a Salem atmosphere, where every guy in an office who winks at a woman is suddenly having to call a lawyer to defend himself. That’s not right either.

“But sure, you hope that something like this could be transformed into a benefit for people rather than just a sad or tragic situation.”

He should shut up

sad, tragic, tragic, sad

sad for Harvey that his life is so messed up.

boo-fuckin-hoo

I like that bracketed “his,” implying Woody Allen’s assessment of the situation is “sad for Harvey that life is so messed up.”

But despite working with Weinstein on a number of films - including the Oscar-winning Mighty Aphrodite - Allen said he had never heard any of allegations of rape and sexual assault.

"No one ever came to me or told me horror stories with any real seriousness," Allen told the BBC. "And they wouldn't, because you are not interested in it. You are interested in making your movie.

"But you do hear a million fanciful rumours all the time. And some turn out to be true and some - many - are just stories about this actress, or that actor."

So... he heard stories about Weinstein, but wasn't interested and didn't take them seriously? Is that what he's saying?

such surprising behavior from woody allen, who still isn't dead somehow

“As the husband of a daughter...” https://t.co/Wnka8UxnJc

— Katie Rich (@katiemaryrich) October 15, 2017

sublime

BOOM

I wouldn’t mind if HW, Polanski, Allen, Affleck and Stone all got the Gary Glitter treatment and had all their “contributions” replaced by some young assholes from Akron

It's ridiculous that entire months of Top Of The Pops repeats get skipped in the UK because of one presenter. There are hundreds of ppl who miss out on royalties, and had no connection to the crimes, the perpetrator, or the organisation that paid him. Far more working actors and writers would miss out on residuals that might pay for groceries if you drop any film that Weinstein bought after the fact and marketed, or Affleck played a bit part in, down a memory hole.

That’s a really good point. Anger has remarkable blinding effects.

also I don't know if the Black Keys are actually assholes, but chances are

Re: TOTP, feels to me like skipping those episodes is willfully ignoring the issue, when we should really be facing up to our complicity in it as a nation.

also I don't know if the Black Keys are actually assholes, but chances are

― El Tomboto, Sunday, October 15, 2017 4:13 PM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i've heard some bad stories about the guitarist from friends in Nashville. just a general asshole, doesn't take care of his kid, etc.

we should really be facing up to our complicity in it as a nation.

I'll add it to the list, but it's going to have to wait its turn and seeing how many crimes are nation is complicit in, the chances are I won't live long enough. I'm still working my way through the list of millions of SE Asians we slaughtered.

xxp given that several of saville's victims have spoken about how awful it was to see him on tv all the time, i think cutting him out is the right move. totp is not the right forum for a serious look at an abuser

what about the royalties for performers & other ppl involved?

I should say I'm American & only know broad outlines of Savile's career & crimes, and I certainly understand networks here refusing to air Cosby Show reruns.

they're less important

of all the reasons to stop airing reruns and therefore cause performers to lose royalities I think "the host was a pedophile" is a much better one than "the ratings aren't great." Actually I'd imagine the latter might go hand in hand with the former.

Think he was enabled not just by institutions, but also by the public's indulgence of celebrities, the same thing is going on now, famous people are given extra leeway for their behaviour because they are good at one specific thing, bad people will take advantage of this culture to do bad things. We really need to address this underlying problem and the BBC strategy is instead to aggressively ignore it.

the public's indulgence of celebrities

this is also why this particular asshole and his enablers are currently all over the teevee being denounced and openly reviled. Hundreds of thousands of other victims of the same kind of assholism in other industries are still trying to figure out how to be heard.

the BBC strategy is instead to aggressively ignore it.

What? You mean by not showing old TOTP episodes? The BBC did a major review of sexual harrassment and bullying in the workplace after Saville. You can read about it here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2013/respect-at-work-review.html

Last year there was an hour and a half doc on BBC One about Savile and his victims, and domestic abuse more broadly in Britain:
https://www.standard.co.uk/stayingin/tvfilm/abused-bbc1-documentary-tells-the-untold-story-of-survivors-of-sexual-abuse-from-jimmy-savile-and-a3223071.html

And, you know, any media organization that fires both Clarkson and Russell Brand has something going for it

And gave Stewart Lee four series

But they never gave Alan Partridge a second one :(

*police bust famous celeb for being two kids in a trenchcoat*

ME: it’s important this does not become a witch hunt

MY BELLY: absolutely

— KRANG 👻 NELSON (@KrangTNelson) October 15, 2017

What was the James Corben joke?

What was the James Corden joke?

typo

there were several, sub-Leno style jokes in a row, ostensibly at Weinstein's expense but toothless enough to feel like normalisation

given that several of saville's victims have spoken about how awful it was to see him on tv all the time, i think cutting him out is the right move.

absolutely, cutting him out would be the right move. they don't do that.

"toothless enough to feel like normalisation" otm

And in 2015, Jordan Sargent wrote in his Gawker article "Tell Us What You Know About Harvey Weinstein's 'Open Secret'"[7] that "rumors of the powerful producer leveraging his industry power for sexual satisfaction—consensual or otherwise—have tended to remain unaired, confined to hushed conversation and seedier gossip-blog comment threads."[4]

not sure this was posted

Tone-deaf to put it mildly pic.twitter.com/6CsG3Uit1Y

— Vadim Rizov (@vrizov) October 13, 2017

That Gawker story - combined with this DeRo profile about his R. Kelly pursuit underlines how necessary it is to have someone speaking on the record, either through the media or through the law. Changed everything with Cosby. Didn't, somehow, change things with Terry Richardson, though maybe he can be KO-ed now.

My greatest concern throughout this ordeal has been that the projected gross for Paddington 2 might be adversely affected, so I thank the Weinstein Company for taking the time to put my mind at ease.

“As the husband of a daughter...” https://t.co/Wnka8UxnJc

— Katie Rich (@katiemaryrich) October 15, 2017

sublime

nah, kinda bullshit

(mandatory disclaimer: WA is a creep and i've always said so)

I flagged T-Richardson at work a couple of years ago - he'd donated some photos for an auction we were doing. I mentioned that he might not be a good choice for a charity that deals with survivors of assault. In the end they took his name off the press release but still exhibited the photos.

I am still waiting for Trump to tweet about Weinstein that "there are good people on both sides".

I did see Trumps reaction.

Basically, that he's known Weinstein for years, and the stories that have come out have been no surprise.

As plain as that, I don't think I've added or lost the weight of he said

I'm sure they met at Clinton fundraisers back in the day

this is reaaaaallllly fucked up

http://nypost.com/2017/10/16/weinstein-co-gets-lifeline-from-real-estate-billionaire/

Weinstein Co. said it has won an “immediate cash infusion” from Colony, which is headed by billionaire Thomas J. Barrack Jr.

Weinstein Co. and Colony said they have also entered talks for “a potential sale of all or a significant portion of the company’s assets,” to the firm run by Barrack, a real-estate tycoon who is one of President Trump’s closest outside advisors in the business world.

. . . i mean . . . we're entering hail, caesar! territory

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/11/trumps-billionaire-friend-tom-barrack-says-hes-better-than-this.html

barrack bought miramax when it burst into flames too.. this isn't new for him.

oh boy qualmsley is here now this thread will be nothing but stories about Russia from here on out

Going back to the subject of punishing innocent bystanders who worked on films/tv shows etc. for a sec...Here in Texas we've been having a long drawn-out battle to keep our Film Commission funded and open. Surprise Surprise that GOP lawmakers are seizing on the Weinstein scandal to try to shut the agency down and deny many many Texans in the industry a source of income and the state itself revenue and tax dollars.

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22492011_10214902824431986_2552834980319831246_n.jpg?oh=873025aa40b8e9cdfbe9fbfe2ca60e2b&oe=5A6D4C2C

Also want to point out that Shaheen's final quote is massive rmde given his party's other bugaboo.