Weinsteins step down as Miramax CEOs

I should say I'm American & only know broad outlines of Savile's career & crimes, and I certainly understand networks here refusing to air Cosby Show reruns.

they're less important

of all the reasons to stop airing reruns and therefore cause performers to lose royalities I think "the host was a pedophile" is a much better one than "the ratings aren't great." Actually I'd imagine the latter might go hand in hand with the former.

Think he was enabled not just by institutions, but also by the public's indulgence of celebrities, the same thing is going on now, famous people are given extra leeway for their behaviour because they are good at one specific thing, bad people will take advantage of this culture to do bad things. We really need to address this underlying problem and the BBC strategy is instead to aggressively ignore it.

the public's indulgence of celebrities

this is also why this particular asshole and his enablers are currently all over the teevee being denounced and openly reviled. Hundreds of thousands of other victims of the same kind of assholism in other industries are still trying to figure out how to be heard.

the BBC strategy is instead to aggressively ignore it.

What? You mean by not showing old TOTP episodes? The BBC did a major review of sexual harrassment and bullying in the workplace after Saville. You can read about it here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2013/respect-at-work-review.html

Last year there was an hour and a half doc on BBC One about Savile and his victims, and domestic abuse more broadly in Britain:
https://www.standard.co.uk/stayingin/tvfilm/abused-bbc1-documentary-tells-the-untold-story-of-survivors-of-sexual-abuse-from-jimmy-savile-and-a3223071.html

And, you know, any media organization that fires both Clarkson and Russell Brand has something going for it

And gave Stewart Lee four series

But they never gave Alan Partridge a second one :(

*police bust famous celeb for being two kids in a trenchcoat*

ME: it’s important this does not become a witch hunt

MY BELLY: absolutely

— KRANG 👻 NELSON (@KrangTNelson) October 15, 2017

What was the James Corben joke?

What was the James Corden joke?

typo

there were several, sub-Leno style jokes in a row, ostensibly at Weinstein's expense but toothless enough to feel like normalisation

given that several of saville's victims have spoken about how awful it was to see him on tv all the time, i think cutting him out is the right move.

absolutely, cutting him out would be the right move. they don't do that.

"toothless enough to feel like normalisation" otm

And in 2015, Jordan Sargent wrote in his Gawker article "Tell Us What You Know About Harvey Weinstein's 'Open Secret'"[7] that "rumors of the powerful producer leveraging his industry power for sexual satisfaction—consensual or otherwise—have tended to remain unaired, confined to hushed conversation and seedier gossip-blog comment threads."[4]

not sure this was posted

Tone-deaf to put it mildly pic.twitter.com/6CsG3Uit1Y

— Vadim Rizov (@vrizov) October 13, 2017

That Gawker story - combined with this DeRo profile about his R. Kelly pursuit underlines how necessary it is to have someone speaking on the record, either through the media or through the law. Changed everything with Cosby. Didn't, somehow, change things with Terry Richardson, though maybe he can be KO-ed now.

My greatest concern throughout this ordeal has been that the projected gross for Paddington 2 might be adversely affected, so I thank the Weinstein Company for taking the time to put my mind at ease.

“As the husband of a daughter...” https://t.co/Wnka8UxnJc

— Katie Rich (@katiemaryrich) October 15, 2017

sublime

nah, kinda bullshit

(mandatory disclaimer: WA is a creep and i've always said so)

I flagged T-Richardson at work a couple of years ago - he'd donated some photos for an auction we were doing. I mentioned that he might not be a good choice for a charity that deals with survivors of assault. In the end they took his name off the press release but still exhibited the photos.

I am still waiting for Trump to tweet about Weinstein that "there are good people on both sides".

I did see Trumps reaction.

Basically, that he's known Weinstein for years, and the stories that have come out have been no surprise.

As plain as that, I don't think I've added or lost the weight of he said

I'm sure they met at Clinton fundraisers back in the day

this is reaaaaallllly fucked up

http://nypost.com/2017/10/16/weinstein-co-gets-lifeline-from-real-estate-billionaire/

Weinstein Co. said it has won an “immediate cash infusion” from Colony, which is headed by billionaire Thomas J. Barrack Jr.

Weinstein Co. and Colony said they have also entered talks for “a potential sale of all or a significant portion of the company’s assets,” to the firm run by Barrack, a real-estate tycoon who is one of President Trump’s closest outside advisors in the business world.

. . . i mean . . . we're entering hail, caesar! territory

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/11/trumps-billionaire-friend-tom-barrack-says-hes-better-than-this.html

barrack bought miramax when it burst into flames too.. this isn't new for him.

oh boy qualmsley is here now this thread will be nothing but stories about Russia from here on out

Going back to the subject of punishing innocent bystanders who worked on films/tv shows etc. for a sec...Here in Texas we've been having a long drawn-out battle to keep our Film Commission funded and open. Surprise Surprise that GOP lawmakers are seizing on the Weinstein scandal to try to shut the agency down and deny many many Texans in the industry a source of income and the state itself revenue and tax dollars.

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22492011_10214902824431986_2552834980319831246_n.jpg?oh=873025aa40b8e9cdfbe9fbfe2ca60e2b&oe=5A6D4C2C

Also want to point out that Shaheen's final quote is massive rmde given his party's other bugaboo.

https://www.avclub.com/lauren-holly-says-harvey-weinstein-showered-in-front-of-1819601394

She says it was so odd that she began to question herself, wondering if she was “just a prude,” but that changed when he got out of the shower and allegedly approached her while still naked. Holly says she wanted to run at that point, but he just told her she looked stressed and suggested that she give him a massage.

well ok then

every one of these stories gives me the fear, deep in my stomach

imagine being her & reading sorvino’s story for the first time after thinking all those years it was just you

It is almost laughable, that he used the same fucking technique, over and over and over and over. What the fuck is wrong with him.

it’s not for them. it’s for him. it’s whatever pattern he’s established ~for himself~ that makes him feel powerful & in control enough to rob them of theirs

pedophiles, serial rapists, serial abusers, serial killers...there’s a whole section of all of these offenders that settle into an established pattern, especially if they are using their own home/office/place of business as their base of operation

if they dont have to travel to find their victims they dont have to be creative

it’s gross but it’s true

Never framed it that way in my mind, ugh.

and that hotel in Cannes, Du Cap, seemed like it was a second home. I wonder if it ever "worked" for him there and he was always trying to recapture it? or if there was just some platonic ideal in his mind of how it would go down? and each attempt with each aspiring actress was like trying to beat a level on some videogame

I'm sure it always "worked" in his mind

there’s a whole section of all of these offenders that settle into an established pattern

Yeah the sameness of the Weinstein accounts reminded me of the same thing in the Bill Cosby accounts -- in each case, there was such a clear m.o., repeated over and over for years.

And a...response.

Ugh. Not really worth parsing that, but the obvious thing to say is that he is conflating sexual attraction with sexual objectification. It is possible to be attracted to someone without turning them into an object.

not if you're medusa

Or King Midas. But apart from them.

oh boy qualmsley is here now this thread will be nothing but stories about Russia from here on out

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 02:30 (twelve hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lmao at you accusing someone of being one-note

the objectification thing is largely a consequence of the legal dehumanization of women over the centuries. it was less than a hundred years ago they got the right to vote. before that they were legally treated as property. its dehumanization deeply rooted in world society.

For sure. And has to be resisted on all fronts. To write a defense of it as the natural order of things is ... well ok it's National Review.

reading that made me feel sick

the link, not the above post

Dennis Praeger is among the grossest people ever to have bylines in publications whose names aren't direct references to nazi propaganda.

THAT guy is still around? they really work til they drop dead, don't they

you cannot kill what does not live

Dennis Praeger's reflections on his third marriage:

Many people advised me against marrying again. After all, they argued, I had no plans to have more children. And we live in a society that hardly demands marriage, let alone the remarriage of middle aged individuals. More than a few men additionally argued that I would come to value my “freedom.”

To be honest, I understood these arguments, but I believe that marriage is the greatest of all social institutions; I happen to agree with God who said in Genesis, “It is not good for man to be alone.”