Weinsteins step down as Miramax CEOs

otm

a dude shouldn't be the one stepping up to explain why nobody said anything, and i'm not sure why the hell Rosenberg thought a hard-boiled novella was what was called for. well i mean i *know* why, he's a bro working in Hollywood. not a hero, not brave.

i was talking to my wife about all this last night, she said her thought was this story is causing this outpouring bc it's just women collectively being sick and tired and furious about everything over the past year-plus, especially related to Trump and his administration, and this disgusting piece of shit using his position to assault these iconic, famous women is sort of the tipping point.

she related a story to me about a guy who worked for her company taking her out to lunch years ago, and she felt uncomfortable about it because his vibe was all wrong, but her co-workers were like, oh don't worry, he just wants to get to know you, he takes everyone out to lunch. at lunch he vented that his marriage wasn't great, his wife didn't understand him, and he really liked her and was interested. after lunch she went right to her boss and said, i never want to work with him again and never want to see him again. and she was lucky, her boss understood and made that happen.

"And do you know how I am sure this is true?
Because I was there."

I can't help hearing this poem in the cadence of "Losing My Edge".

The more people who say "everyone knew", the better. We need to be reminded over and over again how normalized that kind of behavior is.

I don't dig the vibe--conditional apologies are shit.

http://perezhilton.com/2017-10-16-kevin-smith-harvey-weinstein-money-residuals-women-in-film-charity#.WeZJwNNSyM_

Harvey Weinstein, who was fired from Weinstein Co. on Oct. 8, has now "resigned" from the company's board, according to a source. More TKTK.

— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) October 17, 2017

xpost -- Smith sticks to that commitment for the rest of his days, well, good on him. Now what more can he do?

Molly Ringwald:

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/all-the-other-harveys

that's concise and infuriating

and totally relatable. esp the part about dissociating :(

In my twenties, I was blindsided during an audition, when I was asked by the director, in a somewhat rhetorical manner, to let the lead actor put a dog collar around my neck. This was not even remotely in the pages I had studied; I could not even fathom how it made sense in the story. The actor was a friend of mine, and I looked in his eyes with panic. He looked back at me with an “I’m really sorry” expression on his face as his hands reached out toward my neck. I don’t even know if the collar ever made it on me, because that’s the closest I’ve had to an out-of-body experience. I’d like to think that I just walked out, but, more than likely, there’s an old VHS tape, disintegrating in a drawer somewhere, of me trying to remember lines with a dog collar around my neck in front of a young man I once had a crush on. I sobbed in the parking lot, and when I got home and called my agent to tell him what happened, he laughed and said, “Well, I guess that’s one for the memoirs. . . .” I fired him and moved to Paris not long after.

Jesus christ

Put this on every fkn billboard in the country

I never talked about these things publicly because, as a woman, it has always felt like I may as well have been talking about the weather. Stories like these have never been taken seriously. Women are shamed, told they are uptight, nasty, bitter, can’t take a joke, are too sensitive. And the men? Well, if they’re lucky, they might get elected President.

the head of a major studio—and, incidentally, someone who claims himself to be horrified by the Harvey allegations—was quoted as saying, “I wouldn’t know [Molly Ringwald] if she sat on my face.”

this was jeffrey katzenberg

yep

jeez what a prick

http://movieline.com/1995/09/01/sixteen-candles-in-the-wind/

My lack of surprise.

damn

My gut reaction here is along the lines of "NOBODY MESSES WITH MOLLY R" tbh

It's great how she sued the collective Weinstein ass and got paid, then never had to deal with them again.

she also seems on point on his lack of artistic taste... even worse than Tarantino.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/game-thrones-star-lena-headey-recalls-harvey-weinstein-174429568.html

Lena Headey w/a very unpleasant story too

the shot at Terry Gilliam seems illuminating, i was checking the wiki for The Brothers Grimm and while she obviously still remembers the abusive behavior, it's interesting to see how Matt Damon saw it

"I'm used to riding roughshod over studio executives," Gilliam explained, "but the Weinsteins rode roughshod over me."[4] Gilliam got so upset, filming was shut down for nearly two weeks. Matt Damon reflected on the situation: "I've never been in a situation like that. Terry was spitting rage at the system, at the Weinsteins. You can't try and impose big compromises on a visionary director like him. If you try to force him to do what you want creatively, he'll go nuclear."[4]

vv understanding of the pressures visionary men come under

Bob could also get a deserved due, it seems.

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/bob-weinstein-sexual-harassment-1202592165/

I love this:

How about Robert Downey Jr., opposite whom she did The Pick-up Artist? "Drinking didn't seem to be his drug of choice at the time," she observes, wryly. "That was kind of obvious, not so much in his behavior as in the long times he spent in the trailer and the people that were sort of hanging around the set. When one person's doing drugs and the other person isn't, they can't--well, let's say. I wasn't somebody he could associate with. I talked with him after the movie and he seems like a different person from the guy I was doing that movie with. I really wasn't crazy about Chaplin, though. I mean, for such a fascinating life as Charlie Chaplin's, it's the dullest movie."

During the dinner, (Bob) Weinstein asked Segel highly intimate questions and made romantic overtures to her, according to Segel. He wanted to know her age because he told her he didn’t want to date anyone younger than his daughter.

Because that would be creepy.

He wanted to know her age because he told her he didn’t want to date anyone younger than his daughter.

hero

sadly not surprised about Gilliam being a jerk re: Lena Headey. love his earlier movies but pretty sure he's had a bad set reputation for some time

Ringwald::
When I was fourteen, a married film director stuck his tongue in my mouth on set.

Paul Mazursky?

I thought of that film too, but I suspect she was 13 when that was shot, looking at the dates involved.

ugh ugh ugh

That dog collar story is very affecting, something about the way she described it really made me feel the horror of it

there were only a couple of films where it could have occurred, one of them being a TV film. xp

a friend of a friend on FB discussed being in a film back in 2000 where the hard partying director sent for her, then tried to pressure her into taking her clothes off, implying her part could be cut down (or completely cut) if she didn't. ultimately she didn't, she managed to escape, and he didn't cut the part.

Just confirmed with Amazon that Roy Price has resigned. HT to @brianstelter for getting it first. Or at least I think he got it first.

— Nick Wingfield (@nickwingfield) October 17, 2017

That dog collar story is very affecting, something about the way she described it really made me feel the horror of it

note that in the Movieline interview, closer to the time, she says the director had her male friend / co-star remove his belt, fasten it around her neck, and lead her with it as a leash

the movieline interview creeps me out, written as it is in such a patronizing and objectifying manner. This is not something that I think is specific to that piece either, because whenever I read interviews or profiles of women written by these male journalists the tone is unfortunately commonly just like that.

I couldn't make it through the first page.

the last line about "if Molly Ringwald keeps her head on straight she'll be just fine" or however it was put was infuriating.

The Ringwald quotes suggest her intelligence and vivacity; it's the transitions that condescend to her. That headline too!

Reading that Ringwald interview I experienced this strange sort of consciousness rift, something I've been experiencing in other places too lately, where I recognized a certain way of talking about women as totally familiar from when I was growing up and at the same time felt like I had suddenly woke up to how repugnant it was.

I recognize now that a lot of the attitudes and behavior and mannerisms described in these types of interviews are also quite commonly a direct reflection of how the male interviewer is behaving, rather than an accurate picture of who the interviewee is. They read as legitimate defense mechanisms.

I recognized a certain way of talking about women as totally familiar from when I was growing up and at the same time felt like I had suddenly woke up to how repugnant it was.

otm. The style has only recently started to disappear too.

It's not exactly like suddenly poking your head out of a pool of sewage, it's more like getting a few miles above the sewage, forgetting it, and then suddenly looking down and being like "oh wait, I grew up in that sewage."

The style has only recently started to disappear too

The style is still extremely prevalent, though less ubiquitous.

In this very forum we still have that Lohan "hot ready and legal!" headline as a freaking thread title, so.

(evry time that thread would pop to the top I'd feel a bit ill)

it was a headline on the cover of Rolling Stone; i'm p sure the thread title was mocking it (but i agree that seeing it pop up on New Answers is kind of gross regardless)

Oh yeah I was aware it was a RS cover but yeah.

And also just the fact that it was a Rolling Stone cover.

Your years and my years were very different. https://t.co/8u0BdLaHYQ

— rose mcgowan (@rosemcgowan) October 18, 2017

good thread too

good point on that thread that Rosenberg's piece seems to be more about wistfully reliving his glory days in Hollywood hanging out w/Weinstein more than it seems to be about honest self-examination.