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He wanted to know her age because he told her he didn’t want to date anyone younger than his daughter.

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morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 19:35 (six years ago) link

sadly not surprised about Gilliam being a jerk re: Lena Headey. love his earlier movies but pretty sure he's had a bad set reputation for some time

Nhex, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 19:59 (six years ago) link

Ringwald::
When I was fourteen, a married film director stuck his tongue in my mouth on set.

Paul Mazursky?

Eazy, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 20:00 (six years ago) link

I thought of that film too, but I suspect she was 13 when that was shot, looking at the dates involved.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link

ugh ugh ugh

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 20:09 (six years ago) link

That dog collar story is very affecting, something about the way she described it really made me feel the horror of it

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 20:13 (six years ago) link

there were only a couple of films where it could have occurred, one of them being a TV film. xp

a friend of a friend on FB discussed being in a film back in 2000 where the hard partying director sent for her, then tried to pressure her into taking her clothes off, implying her part could be cut down (or completely cut) if she didn't. ultimately she didn't, she managed to escape, and he didn't cut the part.

nomar, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 20:14 (six years ago) link

Just confirmed with Amazon that Roy Price has resigned. HT to @brianstelter for getting it first. Or at least I think he got it first.

— Nick Wingfield (@nickwingfield) October 17, 2017

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 20:40 (six years ago) link

That dog collar story is very affecting, something about the way she described it really made me feel the horror of it

note that in the Movieline interview, closer to the time, she says the director had her male friend / co-star remove his belt, fasten it around her neck, and lead her with it as a leash

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 21:05 (six years ago) link

the movieline interview creeps me out, written as it is in such a patronizing and objectifying manner. This is not something that I think is specific to that piece either, because whenever I read interviews or profiles of women written by these male journalists the tone is unfortunately commonly just like that.

nomar, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 21:12 (six years ago) link

I couldn't make it through the first page.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 21:27 (six years ago) link

the last line about "if Molly Ringwald keeps her head on straight she'll be just fine" or however it was put was infuriating.

nomar, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 21:33 (six years ago) link

The Ringwald quotes suggest her intelligence and vivacity; it's the transitions that condescend to her. That headline too!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 21:34 (six years ago) link

Reading that Ringwald interview I experienced this strange sort of consciousness rift, something I've been experiencing in other places too lately, where I recognized a certain way of talking about women as totally familiar from when I was growing up and at the same time felt like I had suddenly woke up to how repugnant it was.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 21:57 (six years ago) link

I recognize now that a lot of the attitudes and behavior and mannerisms described in these types of interviews are also quite commonly a direct reflection of how the male interviewer is behaving, rather than an accurate picture of who the interviewee is. They read as legitimate defense mechanisms.

nomar, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 22:04 (six years ago) link

I recognized a certain way of talking about women as totally familiar from when I was growing up and at the same time felt like I had suddenly woke up to how repugnant it was.

otm. The style has only recently started to disappear too.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 22:07 (six years ago) link

It's not exactly like suddenly poking your head out of a pool of sewage, it's more like getting a few miles above the sewage, forgetting it, and then suddenly looking down and being like "oh wait, I grew up in that sewage."

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 22:09 (six years ago) link

The style has only recently started to disappear too

The style is still extremely prevalent, though less ubiquitous.

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 22:33 (six years ago) link

In this very forum we still have that Lohan "hot ready and legal!" headline as a freaking thread title, so.

(evry time that thread would pop to the top I'd feel a bit ill)

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 22:35 (six years ago) link

it was a headline on the cover of Rolling Stone; i'm p sure the thread title was mocking it (but i agree that seeing it pop up on New Answers is kind of gross regardless)

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 23:10 (six years ago) link

Oh yeah I was aware it was a RS cover but yeah.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 23:11 (six years ago) link

And also just the fact that it was a Rolling Stone cover.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 00:34 (six years ago) link

Your years and my years were very different. https://t.co/8u0BdLaHYQ

— rose mcgowan (@rosemcgowan) October 18, 2017

nomar, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link

good thread too

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link

good point on that thread that Rosenberg's piece seems to be more about wistfully reliving his glory days in Hollywood hanging out w/Weinstein more than it seems to be about honest self-examination.

nomar, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link

“and, it should be noted: there were many who actually succumbed to his bulky charms. Willingly. “

This negates every word in his “prose”.

— Jocelyn Stanton (@jocelynmstanton) October 18, 2017

I momentarily cringed when I read that line but initially chose to overlook it, and that's like a microcosm of the way we as men often overlook such things. Looking at it in isolation though it's really awful -- "By the way, even though he raped women, some women also slept with him willingly," What the fuck is that supposed to mean? Let alone "succumbed" and "bulky charms." Disgusting.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:30 (six years ago) link

Just briefly going back to the LiLo RS thing, imagine all the back patting in their offices when they genderflipped the same headline some years later...

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/691571/thumbs/o-JUSTIN-BIEBER-LINDAY-LOHAN-HOT-READY-LEGAL-570.jpg?6

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link

Ha! Just noticed that Bieber cover has a headline that inspired another long-running ILX thread.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link

Global Warming: Mysteries of Batman.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:41 (six years ago) link

Global Warming: Hot, Ready, and Legal

jmm, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:44 (six years ago) link

Two different ILX thread titles on one cover, sort of

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link

i know it doesn't mean anything just felt like it was my civic duty to post that picture....

scott seward, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 18:22 (six years ago) link

good ol' ?oh=2896f78c2b25a85a6d5a9357c1be40fd&oe=5A78 and OJ Simpson

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 18:31 (six years ago) link

?Oh= to his pals

Mark G, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link

did that picture not show up? it's a dumb picture anyway. though scorsese-movie-extra harvey isn't a sight you see much.

scott seward, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 19:16 (six years ago) link

I see it. now I can't unsee it.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 19:17 (six years ago) link

young harvey clearly taking fashion and grooming tips from ron jeremy

midas / medusa cage match (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 19:19 (six years ago) link

he looks like mark ruffalo a bit

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 19:26 (six years ago) link

jesus don't give ruffalo an epic rise and fall of harvey movie idea. although..........

scott seward, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 19:32 (six years ago) link

he'd have to go the full lamotta.

scott seward, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 19:32 (six years ago) link

looks like Al Lettieri in The Getaway

nomar, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link

Jeff Garlin is the obvious pick for a Harvey Weinstein biopic.

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 21:19 (six years ago) link

Whoever the fake-Harvey was on Entourage did it well.

Eazy, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 21:32 (six years ago) link

In Quebec today, a major radio/TV personality (Eric Salvail) was put on leave following a major report on his workplace sexual harassment. The Weinstein affair reportedly motivated the main accuser to go public.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/quebec-media-star-eric-salvail-on-leave-following-allegations-of-sexual-harassment/article36641603/

12 hours later, one of the most powerful men in Quebec culture - Gilbert Rozon, founder of the Just For Laughs comedy festival - has stepped down as similar allegations begin to surface:
http://www.lapresse.ca/arts/201710/18/01-5140481-allegations-dinconduite-sexuelle-gilbert-rozon-demissionne-de-ses-fonctions.php

sean gramophone, Thursday, 19 October 2017 01:17 (six years ago) link

I liked that Bloodworth-Thomason piece a lot, but I still don't understand the free pass that is given to Bill Clinton. Does she just not believe the allegations against him from multiple women?

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Thursday, 19 October 2017 01:43 (six years ago) link

However, I will be the first to admit that clearly delineated moral choices can still be painfully complex where friendship is involved. One of the best friends I will ever have and a man I love dearly, former President Bill Clinton, has certainly taxed my feminist conscience, but always without diminishing my affection. I even helped write his apology to the nation for his own sexual misconduct, was sitting next to him when he delivered it, and believe to this day it was based on something that was none of our business. And yes, some may call it hypocritical, but I confess to having had no problem warning at least three top-level Democratic operatives against allowing Harvey Weinstein to host political fundraisers. A warning that evidently (and to the glee of Fox News) fell on deaf ears.

yeah this is unfortunately right-wing fodder for left-wing hypocrisy.

nomar, Thursday, 19 October 2017 01:45 (six years ago) link

painfully phony

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 October 2017 01:51 (six years ago) link

otoh, quebec is outlawing the use of scarves and sunglasses ('while receiving public services') in an attempt to stamp out creeping sharia

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 October 2017 02:04 (six years ago) link


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