Lupita Nyongo’s story...infuriating...hallelujah for these women tho seriously https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/opinion/lupita-nyongo-harvey-weinstein.html
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 20 October 2017 04:47 (six years ago) link
if there was a tarantino type who did stand up to him, would we know who he is now?
as i recall, kate beckinsale said one of her male friends, an actor, did stand up to him, and was essentially blackballed
i 1000% agree men need to stand up more just across the board, and recognize their complicity when they dont. i also think there's something inherent in the system that makes it so both men and women are discouraged from doing so. It breaks your heart to read an almost *guilty* feeling in Lupita Nyongo's essay, like she's lamenting she didn't do more about it.
but yeah I mean the system is set up so that powerful people can do what they want, capitalism is a ponzi scheme for effectively channeling sociopaths in the hopes theyre at least economically productive while being sociopathic monsters right
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 20 October 2017 05:55 (six years ago) link
all roads lead to the end of the world
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 20 October 2017 05:56 (six years ago) link
I was thinking about what made this takedown of a powerful predator successful, and I think one thing is having a number of women's stories all go public at the same time. That's makes it undeniable. It's sort of unfortunate because you won't always have that, but there's probably a lesson there in going after habitual predators.
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Friday, 20 October 2017 12:12 (six years ago) link
To be honest Tarantino also stayed at Miramax because the entire industry is rife with misogynistic, controlling assholes and at least Harvey was in his corner.
See also: Don Simpson.
― Eazy, Friday, 20 October 2017 12:20 (six years ago) link
I thought I liked Miramax more than I do. Aside from a few pretty Oscar-bait films (The English Patient, The Wings of the Dove, Malèna), I could easily live without the catalogue.
― prelude to abjection (Sanpaku), Friday, 20 October 2017 13:03 (six years ago) link
the system is set up so that powerful people can do what they want, capitalism is a ponzi scheme for effectively channeling sociopaths in the hopes theyre at least economically productive while being sociopathic monsters right
ding ding ding
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 20 October 2017 13:07 (six years ago) link
"Oh, wait ... this thing we're all used to is actually terrible."
women have been saying this is terrible and no one has taken them seriously until nowif this is the dawn of a new age in which people believe women, i'll feel like it's a net win for society
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 20 October 2017 13:44 (six years ago) link
Even for me as someone with relatively feminist parents I feel a consciousness shift happening in myself.
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Friday, 20 October 2017 14:01 (six years ago) link
hot
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 20 October 2017 15:18 (six years ago) link
Yes. Let's hope. And by "a bunch of people" I mostly meant a bunch of men, although I think women have been acculturated in a lot of the same ways, to accept that "that's just the way things are." So the awakening there is maybe less "Oh, this is terrible" than "Oh, we can do something about this?"
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 20 October 2017 16:04 (six years ago) link
yeah -- i recommend men watch out for their usage of "we"it's frequently unclear who "we" are
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 20 October 2017 16:09 (six years ago) link
"what do you mean we, white man?"
― El Tomboto, Friday, 20 October 2017 16:14 (six years ago) link
NY Post's Page Six:
Weinstein is currently in Arizona for sex addiction treatment; a source tells the Post, "In one group therapy session, Harvey arrived 15 minutes late. Then, when it was his turn to speak, he launched into a speech about how this is all a conspiracy against him... Harvey fell asleep in his chair [during others' personal stories]. He was only woken up by the ringing of his smuggled mobile phone [which is banned at the facility] ... Harvey jolted awake, jumped up, immediately took the call and then ran out of the room."
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 October 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link
1) "sex addiction" um yeah no, you're a fucking predator2) what the fuck is wrong with people spying on therapy groups, fuck this fucking world
― brimstead, Friday, 20 October 2017 16:40 (six years ago) link
oh it was probably one of the attendees. fuck people.
i guess i probably would've blabbed
he does seem pretty special even within the field of multi-millionaire egotist sexual abusers
― ogmor, Friday, 20 October 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link
I'm currently in treatment for my addiction to lighting matches. You're welcome, people whose houses I torched. You're welcome.
― I believe I will have another helping of your scrumptious casserole (Old Lunch), Friday, 20 October 2017 17:01 (six years ago) link
is like 'sex addiction' like "addiction to popsicles"
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 October 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link
yea wtf i would've blabbed too if dude ruined my group therapy session
― flappy bird, Friday, 20 October 2017 17:15 (six years ago) link
group therapy with a Famous Person would be the worst ever
― Randall Jarrell (dandydonweiner), Friday, 20 October 2017 17:17 (six years ago) link
ppl i know who've sought help for "compulsive sexual behavior" engaged in it (afaik) with consensual partners.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 October 2017 17:22 (six years ago) link
maybe that part with a Famous Person would not be the worst ever
― Randall Jarrell (dandydonweiner), Friday, 20 October 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link
sex addiction is a real thing but I don't think it has any necessary correlation with predation
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Friday, 20 October 2017 17:28 (six years ago) link
Help, I'm addicted to avoiding ownership of my behavior by seeking treatment which fails to address my sociopathic tendencies.
― I believe I will have another helping of your scrumptious casserole (Old Lunch), Friday, 20 October 2017 17:41 (six years ago) link
Sociopathy is untreatable.
― Mordy, Friday, 20 October 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link
Asia Argento flees Italy after public condemns her for speaking out about Harvey Weinstein
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Friday, 20 October 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link
ugh wtf Italy
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 20 October 2017 18:03 (six years ago) link
jesus
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 20 October 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link
https://www.axios.com/sexual-assault-timeline-2498587017.html
― Randall Jarrell (dandydonweiner), Friday, 20 October 2017 20:15 (six years ago) link
I am shocked - SHOCKED - that the country that repeatedly elected Berlusconi and convicted "Foxy Knoxy" is deeply mysognistic
― Οὖτις, Friday, 20 October 2017 20:17 (six years ago) link
surely we can still express some dismay/empathy for the person tho
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 20 October 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link
absolutely, my comment was more of a "Italy pvmic" thing
― Οὖτις, Friday, 20 October 2017 20:23 (six years ago) link
wait, Italy posts here?
― Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Friday, 20 October 2017 20:24 (six years ago) link
with the tip o' the Boot
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 October 2017 20:26 (six years ago) link
LA Times reporting that 38 women have come forward about director James Toback, yet another in the endless line of gross predatorshttp://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-et-mn-james-toback-sexual-harassment-allegations-20171018-story.htmlThe final story in this piece is so gross & haunting
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 22 October 2017 22:54 (six years ago) link
Writer, The Pick-up Artist (1987). Director, Seduced and Abandoned (2013) and The Private Life of a Modern Woman (2017)
― prelude to abjection (Sanpaku), Sunday, 22 October 2017 23:50 (six years ago) link
Study finds 75 percent of workplace harassment victims experienced retaliation when they spoke up https://t.co/tm86j45Ngz— Vox (@voxdotcom) October 21, 2017
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 22 October 2017 23:53 (six years ago) link
What is wrong with these men. Kneeling in front of women and dry humping them like a dog? I mean that sounds fucking pathological.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 22 October 2017 23:58 (six years ago) link
whatever pathetically insufficient social mechanisms exist for regulating that sort of pathology just don't seem to function when the power imbalance is that great, so these guys just get to keep kidding themselves that it's all ok
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 23 October 2017 00:07 (six years ago) link
Good piece
Why the Harvey Weinstein allegations could change our culture https://t.co/KWCoXfTTCT— Rolling Stone (@RollingStone) October 22, 2017
― flappy bird, Monday, 23 October 2017 00:23 (six years ago) link
Over/under on the first Btl comment referencing matt taibbi?
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 23 October 2017 00:33 (six years ago) link
the dude who produced the "Open Secret" documentary is either right-wing or is taking what allies he can get, with his constant retweeting of Mike Cernovich regarding the film. i suspect he'd find plenty of sympathizers on the left so i suspect it's more the former.
― nomar, Monday, 23 October 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link
This is fun: the 47 METERS DOWN director has Things To Say about Bob Weinstein, shooting in water tanks, etc. https://t.co/PNrpyzOnVQ pic.twitter.com/njsa8cdumh— Vadim Rizov (@vrizov) October 23, 2017
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 October 2017 21:43 (six years ago) link
This is just horrible.
Updating again: Since this story published on Sunday, 193 additional women have contacted me to talk about Toback. https://t.co/beVGHWpdmc— Glenn Whipp (@GlennWhipp) October 23, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 October 2017 23:26 (six years ago) link
the toback thing isn't even news. I guess the extremely gross explicit details are, but this has been on salon, gawker, everything for years. good to hear people are finally caring.
― akm, Monday, 23 October 2017 23:58 (six years ago) link
there was a Spy magazine article about it w/ interviews w/ a bunch of women back in like 1989 or something
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 23 October 2017 23:59 (six years ago) link
yes, 1989.
― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 00:15 (six years ago) link
https://www.scribd.com/doc/51476375/Spy-Magazine-March-1989
― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 00:17 (six years ago) link