it wasn't whimsical at all, it was so tonally precise
― flappy bird, Friday, 20 October 2017 18:20 (six years ago) link
yeah, zero whimsy.
what can I say, i like actors who are better than Hudson and Wyman.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 October 2017 18:28 (six years ago) link
what can I say
More than I ever wanted you to.
― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Friday, 20 October 2017 19:01 (six years ago) link
oh, youuuuuu
anyway at least you can skip the VU documentary
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 October 2017 19:05 (six years ago) link
Fair enough. You, actors. Me, soundtracks.
― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Friday, 20 October 2017 19:11 (six years ago) link
I assume Alfred's whimsy comment was aimed at the new one, not Carol.
I like or love most of Haynes' movies, but the source material for this one makes me skeptical. I didn't like Hugo, so reviews saying either "It's as good as Hugo" or "It's not as good as Hugo" don't do anything for me.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 20 October 2017 19:34 (six years ago) link
Dargis in the NYT thought it was pitched primarily at adults.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 October 2017 19:39 (six years ago) link
idk what to think after the trailer tbh
I tend to love Haynes when he's focused on music, less so on other topics but I did like Far From Heaven and Safe
― Οὖτις, Friday, 20 October 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link
def doesn't look like something that would interest children imo
I referred to the new one. The kids are better than the horrors in The FLorida Project though.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 October 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link
Give it a rest already.
― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Friday, 20 October 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, October 20, 2017 12:58 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ah sorry for misrepresenting you alfred
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 20 October 2017 20:03 (six years ago) link
Carol could have done with some whimsey.
― iCloudius (cryptosicko), Friday, 20 October 2017 20:35 (six years ago) link
― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Friday, October 20, 201
Someone likes Florida!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 October 2017 20:46 (six years ago) link
Except some people.
― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Friday, 20 October 2017 20:58 (six years ago) link
Carol was boring af
― Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Sunday, 22 October 2017 03:26 (six years ago) link
I didn't think Carol (or Far From Heaven) was boring as much as straitjacketed by good taste and period detail. As for Wonderstruck, I will say that its period settings didn't strike me as nearly so restrictive. And I found the musical settings to be an exercise in obviousness, which I assume means it will get its only Oscar nomination in one of the sound categories.
― Virulent Is the Word for Julia (j.lu), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 02:27 (six years ago) link
Yeah, Wonderstruck is pretty boring. Moreso than Carol, even.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 October 2017 19:36 (six years ago) link
I was restless.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 October 2017 19:47 (six years ago) link
No floor to mop or furniture to Pledge either!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 October 2017 19:48 (six years ago) link
used '70s Manhattan as a theme park, too
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 October 2017 19:51 (six years ago) link
Next up this fall... don't think I knew about it?
https://www.indiewire.com/2019/08/todd-haynes-dark-waters-mark-ruffalo-anne-hathaway-primetime-oscars-release-1202168878/
Seems like a prosaic social-issue variant on Safe.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 15:29 (four years ago) link
. It was adapted most recently by Mario Correa and first writer Matthew Michael Carnahan from Nathaniel Rich’s New York Times Magazine article, “The Lawyer Who Became DuPont’s Worst Nightmare.”
Anne Hathaway stars opposite Ruffalo as Biliott’s wife, Sarah; she’s also the star of “The Last Thing He Wanted,” which Rees and Marco Villalobos adapted from the 1997 Joan Didion novel.
I'm quite confused.
― Funky Isolations (jed_), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 16:45 (four years ago) link
they are referring to another non-Haynes film in the can
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link
yes it is a Haynes film
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvAOuhyunhY
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 19:36 (four years ago) link
oh damn!
― sarahell, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 19:44 (four years ago) link
Kind of like when Mann did The Insider and moved past his crime-genre limitations while keeping his strengths.
― ... (Eazy), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 19:53 (four years ago) link
Gus Van Sant did an enviro drama what, 2 years ago?
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 19:57 (four years ago) link
I love Haynes but this looks p boring
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 20:28 (four years ago) link
I like this one more than Carol or Wonderstruck. It works.
also fuck Dupont and their former senator the Frontrunner
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 04:30 (four years ago) link
welp I guess I just learned this movie exists!
― Simon H., Tuesday, 12 November 2019 05:06 (four years ago) link
A decent New Yorker profile: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/11/11/todd-haynes-rewrites-the-hollywood-playbook
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 10:58 (four years ago) link
What differentiates this one from Promised Land?
― temporarily embarrassed thousandaire (Eric H.), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 13:15 (four years ago) link
dunno, didn't see that one
subject matter is not the end-all though... there certainly are echoes of Safe.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 13:25 (four years ago) link
superb Ed Lachman cinematography as always, a frequently icy blue palette
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 15:28 (four years ago) link
DARK WATERS (Haynes, 2019) pic.twitter.com/jaXpclD2sj— gina telaroli (@GinaTelaroli) November 12, 2019
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 13:26 (four years ago) link
Dug it. Like Morbs says, super cinematography And careful accurate design overall but never exaggerating late-90s Cincinnati style.
Agree withEdelstein:
If meanly-clad-little-David-versus-venomous-corporate-Goliath melodramas like Todd Haynes’s fact-based Dark Waters are more alike than unalike, it’s because there’s really only one way to frame what happens every day in a country controlled by companies with vast coffers, armies of lobbyists, and politicians leased by the year.
― ... (Eazy), Monday, 2 December 2019 04:13 (four years ago) link
ppl who handwave at this somehow think Parasite says "more"
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 December 2019 04:43 (four years ago) link
How does the speed change things for you, on the filmmaking end?
It's not my preferred method, but we just went there. And we went to these places and we surrounded ourselves with these people, and we just sucked everything out that we could from their stories and their experiences in their homes, in their living rooms, the documents that each of them hung on to through the course of the story. We shot in the law firm itself in Downtown Cincinnati and we shot in the Netherland Hilton, where they really had these annual black tie events. We shot at the Queen City Club, where Victor Garber was first introduced and makes the speech praising DuPont.
We were right inside all of this. It was pretty insane because it puts you in the visual landscape and the spatial landscape. Space is a really important part of these kinds of movies, the sense of individuals alienated within corporate spaces, public spaces, domestic spaces. That became apparent and literalized by the story itself, where he's literally walled in by the boxes of discovery that he finally shakes loose from DuPont.
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/11/dark-waters-todd-haynes-interview
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:59 (four years ago) link
Ed Lachman not bothering to conceal his annoyance while explaining why DARK WATERS is the first all-digital Haynes feature https://t.co/h2fqhl9EGD pic.twitter.com/190Gm8yDrQ— Vadim Rizov (@vrizov) December 3, 2019
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 02:29 (four years ago) link
I thought Carol was really beautiful visually, wonder how this one compares
― Dan S, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 02:52 (four years ago) link
This was fine as far as corporate malfeasance films go, not as gripping as Erin Brockovich or Norma Rae but better than A Civil Action. The cinematography made the lineage between this and Safe explicit.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 7 December 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link
thread
Haynes turning his eye for the voluptuous towards the grotesque and depressing? That’s how you shore up the conscience of the American movie goer. You make the comfort of wealth look sad and the hell of government mandated poverty un-Romantic— Scout Tafoya (@Honors_Zombie) December 9, 2019
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 December 2019 21:04 (four years ago) link
good stuff. i'm looking forward to seeing this one.
― ingredience (map), Monday, 9 December 2019 21:18 (four years ago) link
https://www.vulture.com/amp/2020/01/dark-waters-movie-why-didnt-it-get-nominated-for-an-oscar.html
― temporarily embarrassed thousandaire (Eric H.), Friday, 10 January 2020 21:42 (four years ago) link
It's a film I love reading about and admire but didn't much like while watching it.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 January 2020 21:43 (four years ago) link
Dark Waters is playing here for a couple of nights next week--looking forward to it. The China Syndrome is my gold standard for mainstream rabble-rousing; also liked Night Moves and The Promised Land more recently.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 02:35 (four years ago) link
I should have mentioned Michael Apted's Class Action in the post above. Haynes may acknowledge it in Dark Waters when DuPont buries Ruffalo's lawyer in an avalanche of discovery documents.
I thought DW was pretty good, though less than what I was hoping for. I'm sure I would have liked it more if I hadn't lost 20% of the dialogue--even accounting for my poor hearing, I'm sure they didn't have the sound loud enough. (A kind of makeshift rep theatre.) I was surprised Anne Hathaway took the proverbial suffering-wife role. She was hardly in the film for the first half; she got more screen time after that, but it still seemed like a part for a less established actress. Maybe she just felt strongly about the subject.
― clemenza, Friday, 31 January 2020 01:06 (four years ago) link
her scenes were p strong tho, idk more meat to it than *just* the suffering wife, plus that neglectfulness of his family coming out in the 3rd out really showed his sacrifice, good movie
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 2 February 2020 23:01 (four years ago) link
Watched Safe last night for the first time since it came out. It kind of went past me at the time--I think I got it (being allergic to the 20th century was a great concept), but, I don't know, it just wasn't my kind of film. I was hoping, of course, it would have special resonance right now.
It did, to a degree; thought the last half was strong. So while I still think its placement high on decade-end lists is overstating it, I was a lot more receptive to it.
― clemenza, Friday, 27 March 2020 19:51 (four years ago) link